LRT Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, BCT-3122-D800-10240 said: Well then... Hopefully successful! Can't wait to see them in service! From what I heard they've got a lot of bugs and they're still working on them. It's going to be awhile before we see them in service I think. From what I understand they don't even have seats yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Car 2318 spent some time on the underfloor wheel lathe last week and I think it got demoted to regular service roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 That would be a significant "bug" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Unlike the previous two cars, 2205 came with complete interior. I wouldn't say that "comfort " was high on the designer's list. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, Pantograf said: Unlike the previous two cars, 2205 came with complete interior. I wouldn't say that "comfort " was high on the designer's list. Comfort is not there for the Series 8's or Series 9's either...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKeyo Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Pantograf said: Unlike the previous two cars, 2205 came with complete interior. I wouldn't say that "comfort " was high on the designer's list. That's a nightmare for anyone who wants to sit down. I don't understand how other cities can have solutions for modular, easy to clean seats, that are not solid badly shaped plastic, but Calgary can't. But, I suppose, I've been wondering how this was going to turn out for years, since they first sent these away for refurbishment, and now at least I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 That seems to be similar to #2333 shape wise, which personally I don’t find overly terrible on the back (as long as I don’t slide all around on it). I would say the side facing seats on the S200’s are much worse with their short backs. As far as the refurbs go, I would have expected a design more similar to the transverse seating on the S200’s which I never had any issues with and in fact found quite comfortable. It’s unfortunate that wasn’t the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Makes pressure washing easy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, DarkKeyo said: That's a nightmare for anyone who wants to sit down. I don't understand how other cities can have solutions for modular, easy to clean seats, that are not solid badly shaped plastic, but Calgary can't. Have you seen the seats on San Francisco MUNI's newest buses? How about the seats in Edmonton Transit's new 2018 Xcelsiors? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, BCT-3122-D800-10240 said: Have you seen the seats on San Francisco MUNI's newest buses? How about the seats in Edmonton Transit's new 2018 Xcelsiors? And what is it that when the buses first arrive the seats always face the floor??? I was on 7003 in Edmonton and this was the case, and I remember when 1846-1880 first showed up they were like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innuendo Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 What is that white lump is next to the exterior camera on 2205? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chills_on_the_train Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Nick B said: That seems to be similar to #2333 shape wise, which personally I don’t find overly terrible on the back (as long as I don’t slide all around on it). I would say the side facing seats on the S200’s are much worse with their short backs. As far as the refurbs go, I would have expected a design more similar to the transverse seating on the S200’s which I never had any issues with and in fact found quite comfortable. It’s unfortunate that wasn’t the case. Agreed. They seem to have taller backs than the S200s and are forward- or backward-facing. This still makes them better than most other options IMO. I wonder if the plastic seats mean there's more legroom now? At 6'4" I just barely fit into the existing 160s, though they are my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Innuendo said: What is that white lump is next to the exterior camera on 2205? The old mirror mount 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innuendo Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/19/2018 at 8:23 AM, Pantograf said: And here's car 2205 Thanks, but I meant the white circular thing above it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Innuendo said: Thanks, but I meant the white circular thing above it? Oh that thing I'm surprised it's still located on the same spot. It's a transponder of some sort. Got to do with mileage I think and maintenance.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 18 hours ago, chills_on_the_train said: I wonder if the plastic seats mean there's more legroom now? At 6'4" I just barely fit into the existing 160s, though they are my favorite. I wonder that too about the legroom. I am 6'1" and I find them a bit tight too.. And they are my favorite as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Based on the images, the legroom doesn’t look any different than before, especially given there is still 6 rows. Either way, I’m sure it’s not as bad as the rear section of some of our older D40LF’s... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chills_on_the_train Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 32 minutes ago, Nick B said: Based on the images, the legroom doesn’t look any different than before, especially given there is still 6 rows. Either way, I’m sure it’s not as bad as the rear section of some of our older D40LF’s... If there is less padding on the seats that might give a net improvement to legroom though. Kind of like how WestJet has slimline seats on their 737s that give me a much needed and very welcome boost to knee space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKeyo Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 10 hours ago, BCT-3122-D800-10240 said: Have you seen the seats on San Francisco MUNI's newest buses? How about the seats in Edmonton Transit's new 2018 Xcelsiors? I haven't seen them, but somehow it doesn't help to know there's more of it. 5 hours ago, chills_on_the_train said: If there is less padding on the seats that might give a net improvement to legroom though. Kind of like how WestJet has slimline seats on their 737s that give me a much needed and very welcome boost to knee space. With the series 8's, my problem was that the side seating was too narrow for most of the people trying to sit, so it was shoulder room rather than leg room. With the series 9's, the side seating sort of had the same problem, but was also short on the back and curved at the lower back, so when going home from work after standing all day, I would hurt whether I was sitting or standing. I've been lucky that since moving, when visiting, I've mostly been on Series 5-7's (or older), but I find it odd that my commute can be more comfortable here in a place where I rarely get a seat. Thank you all for the updates, I'm glad to be kept in the loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Pantograf said: Unlike the previous two cars, 2205 came with complete interior. I wouldn't say that "comfort " was high on the designer's list. Here's a shot of the interior of 2205 from back in 2001 with the original look: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, BCT-3122-D800-10240 said: Here's a shot of the interior of 2205 from back in 2001 with the original look: Love the stanchion mounted door buttons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCT-3122-D800-10240 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, LRT said: OOPS! Please delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 36 minutes ago, LRT said: Love the stanchion mounted door buttons! Yes, those were the door buttons before they got moved to the doors themselves. That was a strange and confusing location in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantograf Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 They haven't given up yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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