lucx Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 Some tid-bits from today's open house: There's no plans on how to cross 16 Ave. That's for future planners to decide. 2nd Ave station will need land from Eau Claire Mall. The houses north of the mall will probably be expropriated. They are considering having Centre Street BRT share lanes and stations with LRT. If a bus breaks down on the track, the train can single track around it. If feedback shows there isn't community support for surface LRT on Centre St, it will be up to council to decide what to do, ie proceed anyways or stop the line downtown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, lucx said: They are considering having Centre Street BRT share lanes and stations with LRT. If a bus breaks down on the track, the train can single track around it. Lol! Like on 7th ave??? Bahahaha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Calon Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 The original idea of having the train go to 16th Avenue was so the expensive bit could be done in one shot - that is, a fully bored tunnel from 16th through to the edge of the beltline. If they're having to run it on the surface of Centre Street, to keep it on the cheap, I propose we end it at Eau Claire and use the money from not bridging now and send it further south. It's OBVIOUS the South won the Green Line, don't slap the north with a small itty-bitty useless segment as a consolation. When the City gets more money, build the Green Line north in a really meaningful manner. Pity though. To have the Green Line go from the Beltline to the north end of the city would've saved the city huge in operating dollars from all the buses that run on Centre Street. The ridership on day one on the north end would've made it a massive success. But alas, they couldn't figure out the fact the Aurora Business Park would've been a great location for the LRV garage... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyC62 Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 This might be a dumb question, but are there any concerns over the interaction of snow and the low-clearance vehicles and platforms? I'm under the (possibly erroneous/overstated) impression that the current high area under the platforms allows trains to push the snow into that cavity, whereas that won't be available on the Green Line - will the snow just get shoved up onto the platforms themselves, requiring frequent manual plowing? Note I'm not concerned about snow piles impeding the trains themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrainDude Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, TimmyC62 said: This might be a dumb question, but are there any concerns over the interaction of snow and the low-clearance vehicles and platforms? I'm under the (possibly erroneous/overstated) impression that the current high area under the platforms allows trains to push the snow into that cavity, whereas that won't be available on the Green Line - will the snow just get shoved up onto the platforms themselves, requiring frequent manual plowing? Note I'm not concerned about snow piles impeding the trains themselves. It may be a bit of an issue if trains don't run frequently and snow builds up, but there's a good example of low floor trains running in snowy conditions in Minneapolis/St. Paul. They actually designed a bit of a mini-plow shape on the front of the trains to help deflect snow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucx Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 Today’s Greenline presentation revealed that tunneling under Centre St to 16 Ave is estimated at $250-$300 million. This sounds like back-of-a-napkin math as they admitted it wasn’t a detailed estimate. Anecdotal support from Crescent Heights is 50/50 support for surface LRT and I’d imagine it’s quite less city-wide. Michael Thompson, the Greeline head, previously stated an option to not proceed if there isn’t community support. Can Councillors justify building this section with tepid community support? Is it reasonable to delay this section until funding becomes available to go underground? They didn’t explicitly answer my question if they had a contingency plan if funding is delayed. The response was the federal and provincial partners remain committed to the project. It tells me there is no contingency plan and all the eggs are in stimulus spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 hours ago, lucx said: Today’s Greenline presentation revealed that tunneling under Centre St to 16 Ave is estimated at $250-$300 million. This sounds like back-of-a-napkin math as they admitted it wasn’t a detailed estimate. Anecdotal support from Crescent Heights is 50/50 support for surface LRT and I’d imagine it’s quite less city-wide. Michael Thompson, the Greeline head, previously stated an option to not proceed if there isn’t community support. Can Councillors justify building this section with tepid community support? Is it reasonable to delay this section until funding becomes available to go underground? Well if it gets delayed, theres tons more that could get built in the South... to McKenzie Towne at the very least, on $250m to $300m, is very much a possibilty. Would also make for way better transfers than the 130 Avenue terminus lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucx Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 I received a reply from Councillor Farrell’s staff. She wants Centre Street to be a community street and favors less car traffic. She supports surface LRT in Crescent Heights and I have a feeling the City considers 50% community support a win. One interesting thing form the presentation was a diagram that showed Eau Clair station at a 3% grade underground. Edmonton’s LRT guidelines state a maximum station gradient of 1%. What’s the grade at Barlow station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 10 hours ago, lucx said: I received a reply from Councillor Farrell’s staff. She wants Centre Street to be a community street and favors less car traffic. She supports surface LRT in Crescent Heights and I have a feeling the City considers 50% community support a win. One interesting thing form the presentation was a diagram that showed Eau Clair station at a 3% grade underground. Edmonton’s LRT guidelines state a maximum station gradient of 1%. What’s the grade at Barlow station? 3 degree gradient... i wonder if i could roll a coin across the platform, start to finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Calon Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 2:51 PM, lucx said: I received a reply from Councillor Farrell’s staff. She wants Centre Street to be a community street and favors less car traffic. She supports surface LRT in Crescent Heights and I have a feeling the City considers 50% community support a win. One interesting thing form the presentation was a diagram that showed Eau Clair station at a 3% grade underground. Edmonton’s LRT guidelines state a maximum station gradient of 1%. What’s the grade at Barlow station? Barlow/Max Bell I'm pretty sure is well above 1%, but unfortunately the resolution of the measurements from Google Earth Pro are pretty crude when it comes to the height. At the east end of the station, it reads 1074m, at the west end it reads 1073m. Since a meter is a pretty large measurement, heightwise, for a 100ish meter long platform, it's quite possible that the station is on a 2% gradient, but it seems steeper than that to me. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatchyyc Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 Used phone's GPS altitude, numbers aren't ASL but can still use the difference West end @ 1048.49m , east end @ 1049.94m so ~1.4% grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Stage 1 of the Green Line has (finally!) been approved. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/green-line-vote-1.5615066 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 hours ago, downbeat said: Stage 1 of the Green Line has (finally!) been approved. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/green-line-vote-1.5615066 Only thing remaining to see: how fast will we see construction... out of personal interest too, because as a welder, I kind of need a better paying job than fast food. And I'd imagine that the 20km of LRT isn't going to be held together by popsicle sticks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake M Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 hours ago, armorand said: Only thing remaining to see: how fast will we see construction... out of personal interest too, because as a welder, I kind of need a better paying job than fast food. And I'd imagine that the 20km of LRT isn't going to be held together by popsicle sticks... Next year, most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyC62 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 Quicker if the provincial government didn't feel like it had to second-guess all the second-guesses that the city's already done so far: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 his worship...? but yeah, agreed - Kenney better not axe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, armorand said: his worship...? "Worship" is a formal title used for mayors. If you ever attend/watch a Calgary city council meeting, you'll hear the mayor being called "your worship" when he is spoken to by councillors and clerks, sort of like the way judges are called your honour/my lord/my lady/etc. (depending on the context). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 hours ago, downbeat said: "Worship" is a formal title used for mayors. If you ever attend/watch a Calgary city council meeting, you'll hear the mayor being called "your worship" when he is spoken to by councillors and clerks, sort of like the way judges are called your honour/my lord/my lady/etc. (depending on the context). I know - just kind of amazed that in 2020, we're still calling people worships, lords and barons... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbeat Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 hours ago, armorand said: I know - just kind of amazed that in 2020, we're still calling people worships, lords and barons... Ah, I understand. Sorry for misreading the intent of your message! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucx Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ric McIver's June 18 statement: Quote We're consistent in saying that we've put money through legislation aside to build the Green Line ... that's always been contingent upon the city building essentially what they promised to build when the money was promised https://twitter.com/RicMcIver/status/1273779752583618560 The NDP government pledged $1.5 billion for Shepard to 16 Ave. The UCP can't use the excuse the money was meant for the full 46 km. They're going to fund it. They just need time to find the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, lucx said: Ric McIver's June 18 statement: https://twitter.com/RicMcIver/status/1273779752583618560 The NDP government pledged $1.5 billion for Shepard to 16 Ave. The UCP can't use the excuse the money was meant for the full 46 km. They're going to fund it. They just need time to find the money. Maybe thats whats behind the talks of reintroducing PST... where else would the money come in for pipelines, Calgary/Edmonton LRT expansions and AHS - without scaring everybody to move out of province with any higher income taxes, Manitoba-level healthcare & carbon fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 About time! https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/after-much-delay-province-approves-calgarys-green-line-lrt-project Quote After much delay, province approves Calgary's Green Line LRT project Preliminary construction starting in Fall 2021. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorand Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Now to just find out where I need to apply, for a job building it... (minimal wage job currently isn't going over very well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrainDude Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Green Line awarded their LRV contract today to CAF, with the URBOS 100. Nice looking train! https://twitter.com/GreenLineYYC/status/1461016459702939655?s=20 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRT Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Imagine that. Finally no Siemens! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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