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Polistes

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On 11/30/2022 at 10:57 AM, PartiallySD said:

I vaguely remember some #3000 non revenue LRT equipment (don’t think they start at 3001 anyways.) 

Edit: after a small bit of digging, apparently #3028 is a scooter at SG…

Ah, yes, I remember 3028. Wouldn't suprise me if you pull an Edmonton and run a green line replacement shuttle (meaning rebranding the 302?) but run this thing on it.

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J. Ho

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On 11/29/2022 at 4:40 PM, ProfessorWho said:

Looks like the green line LRV mockup has arrived from CAF

https://livewirecalgary.com/2022/11/29/mock-low-floor-lrv-green-line-calgary-transit/

 

YAYYY

CONGRATS CITY OF CALGARY TRANSIT ON THIS NICE AND UNIQUE i hope i see it some day

my favorite c train is the S200 c  train i love the touch sensors !

and i hope a C TRAIN has a station to my house one day

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armorand

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On 1/23/2023 at 1:53 PM, chills_on_the_train said:

Eau Claire's heyday was over in the 90s, should have been demolished 20 years ago. Good to see the land will be put to somewhat better use.

Some massive high-rise affordable housing would be nice...

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R. Meu

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2 hours ago, LRT said:

They did a pretty decent job on the WLRT line though.
 

No major issues at all. 

They did, but I’m disappointed they chose then once again, given SNC has had a number of ethical and corruption issues in the past with other projects that go beyond transit. If something does go wrong during the construction of the project they will face backlash that will also make the city look bad at the same time. Anyways….

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A rebuttal appeared not long afterward:

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-green-line-lrt-a-key-investment-in-calgarys-future

 

And some Green Line news today about a request for proposals for some kind of grade separation work involving CP Rail at 78 Avenue SE:

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/city-looks-to-start-ogden-construction-in-advance-of-the-green-line

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Nick B

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2 hours ago, 2102 said:

Back at it again with this nonsense published just over two weeks ago

 

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/corbella-is-the-green-line-lrt-on-the-right-track-many-say-its-past-time-to-pivot-on-costly-rail-line

 

 

 

While 99% of that article is poppycock there is definitely a good point to be made about how utterly useless Phase 1 is going to be running between 16th Ave and Shepard, concerning the overall current transit ridership in the SE. They can promise all this "transit oriented development" all day, if they don't build a line that's useful from the get go it shouldn't take an expert analyst to predict what the ridership will actually look like when complete (and the media coverage of it all at that point as well...)

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Card models of the Green Line trains were available from CT at the annual Supertrain show this past weekend. 

 

Due to the decision to depict the entire continuous length rather than separate cars, it's at a much smaller scale than previous CTrain card models. This becomes problematic for two reasons: 1) the wheels are much, much smaller (roughly half the size of the other cars), which makes them harder to bend down without ripping the much narrower strip of card between the fold point and the edge of the bottom and 2) the slots for the body tabs are right next to the wheels, so if you rip the wheel edges, you might damage the slots for the body, making it all that much more challenging to insert the tab such that they stay in place.

 

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Nick B

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Bad news boys.

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Phase 1 of Calgary's Green Line LRT will be shorter as costs escalate

Skyrocketing costs have derailed the first phase of Calgary's Green Line LRT project, which will now be five stations shorter than planned.

After spending nearly all day behind closed doors on Tuesday, councillors and city officials emerged to provide the long-awaited update on the largest infrastructure project in Calgary's history.

The new cost for the shorter Phase 1 is $6.248 billion.

Phase 1 of the project was supposed to cost $5.5 billion for an 18-kilometre stretch from Eau Claire to Shepard in the Southeast.

Now, due to escalating costs, the project will run from Eau Claire to Lynnwood/Millican.

The updated scope for Phase 1 means there will be five fewer stations in the southeast and the Centre Street station will be deferred.

The train will not run to Ogden, South Hill, Quarry Park, Douglas Glen and Shepard in its first phase.

The storage and maintenance facility, previously planned to be built in Shepard, will be built in Highfield instead.

The plan still includes a line underground with several stations, though the 4th Street S.E. station will now be built at ground level.

"Today's decision is more than a decade in the making and sets Calgary up for success for years to come, especially at a time when we are the fastest-growing city in the nation," said Mayor Jyoti Gondek in a release.

"The Green Line is a critical piece of transportation infrastructure that demonstrates all three orders of government are focused on collaboration and co-operation to get megaprojects moving."

"The board is confident that revising the construction phasing for Phase 1, building from Lynnwood/Millican to Eau Claire, is the best approach to control costs, mitigate risks and build the critical core of Green Line," said Don Fairbairn, Green Line board chair, in the same release.

"We appreciate that some Calgarians will be disappointed that they will have to wait longer for the new LRT service to reach their community but starting construction will lay a foundation for Calgary's sustained growth and ensure the long-term benefits of housing, connectivity and ridership can be maximized."

For months, officials had warned the project was facing major cost overruns.

It was deemed as a "major concern" at several committee meetings, though the exact costs were kept under wraps until Tuesday.

Steve Allan, a member of the Rethink the Green Line group, said the city should have reconsidered the idea of tunnelling through downtown long ago.

He believes other Calgarians will share his frustration.

"They should be outraged. This is not a good use of taxpayers money," he said.

"It puts the financial future of Calgary on this."

The city received funding commitments years ago from both the federal and provincial governments to each put up $1.53 billion toward Phase 1 of the line.

In separate letters sent to the mayor over the last five days, each wrote of concerns about a "descoped" project.

"From the federal government's perspective, a scope change and re-committal of the full amount of funding to the project would require full details of the project so that we may ensure that the descoped project continues to meet the objectives of Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program," federal Infrastructure Minister Sean Fraser wrote on July 26.

In order to ensure federal funding is there, Calgary will have to submit a new business plan to Ottawa by Aug. 15.

In a letter this week, Alberta's transportation minister confirmed its $1.5 billion for the project, subject to conditions.

Money will not be reduced or pro-rated, as long as the first phase of the Green Line "connects to the existing Red and Blue lines in downtown Calgary" and it meshes with the province's master rail plan for a "Grand Central Station" next to the new arena.

"A change in the delivery model employed by the city will not, in and of itself, impact the grant funding, subject to the receipt of further details on the proposed delivery model," Devin Dreeshen wrote on July 29. 

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/phase-1-of-calgary-s-green-line-lrt-will-be-shorter-as-costs-escalate-1.6983739

Honestly might as well just cancel it at this point and put the money toward a more worthwhile project altogether. This phase of the line will be as good as useless. 

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Pantograf

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15 hours ago, Nick B said:

Bad news boys.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/phase-1-of-calgary-s-green-line-lrt-will-be-shorter-as-costs-escalate-1.6983739

Honestly might as well just cancel it at this point and put the money toward a more worthwhile project altogether. This phase of the line will be as good as useless. 

I couldn't agree more. By the time the next round of budget overruns is announced, the tracks will end in Ramsay. There is so much I want to say... 🤨

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The problem I have with this latest news, is the fact that I was living in Calgary in 2007 and they were discussing the Green Line. There were also more plans to extend the Blue and Red lines even further than they are now. The city and province should have been partnering together continually so that lines could keep being built. All this will they or won't they fund this stuff has caused so many delays and now a much shorter line that will probably get built and probably never get extended because if it is to expensive to build now, it is going to be even more expensive in the future. My thought is cancel the green line all together and use that money to invest into a much better bus service. Maybe even BRT services in different areas and just a basic improvement to the regular service to improve service frequencies and using bigger buses on routes that are getting busier instead of running routes with small buses that may run full and then people have to wait for the next one. 

I think just building a better bus system and improving the service on the existing LRT lines will go a long way to improving transit service in Calgary. Also taking some of this money now to improving service, I would discuss and possibly partner with other towns and cities in the area about a regional service as well. Getting more transit service into Calgary might help improve the traffic flow in and around the city. Can probably do a lot more with the money than building a shortened train line that won't benefit many people overall. 

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Nick B

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2 hours ago, brianc1981 said:

The problem I have with this latest news, is the fact that I was living in Calgary in 2007 and they were discussing the Green Line. There were also more plans to extend the Blue and Red lines even further than they are now. The city and province should have been partnering together continually so that lines could keep being built. All this will they or won't they fund this stuff has caused so many delays and now a much shorter line that will probably get built and probably never get extended because if it is to expensive to build now, it is going to be even more expensive in the future. My thought is cancel the green line all together and use that money to invest into a much better bus service. Maybe even BRT services in different areas and just a basic improvement to the regular service to improve service frequencies and using bigger buses on routes that are getting busier instead of running routes with small buses that may run full and then people have to wait for the next one. 

I think just building a better bus system and improving the service on the existing LRT lines will go a long way to improving transit service in Calgary. Also taking some of this money now to improving service, I would discuss and possibly partner with other towns and cities in the area about a regional service as well. Getting more transit service into Calgary might help improve the traffic flow in and around the city. Can probably do a lot more with the money than building a shortened train line that won't benefit many people overall. 

Very much agreed, and honestly the SE suburbs would probably be better off if they just reintroduced the downtown express route system including restoring the former routes lost to the 131. The SE Green Line would never see the same ridership as any part of the Red/Blue or potentially even the North Central part of the line even if it ran all the way to Seton right off the bat, not to mention have an outrageously long travel time. 

The money could easily be better invested into commuter rail/bus service to Airdrie/Cochrane/Okotoks/Chestermere. Especially with those areas probably being where most of the long term future urban growth in the Calgary area will be seen, including young families that might be more dependent on transit, compared to the demographic of most of the SE. Not to mention the overdue extensions of the NE and South lines.

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