Robert Lubinski Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, drum118 said: No it doesn't, as you are trying to travel on a cattle car like it been for the past 10 years. Try getting on an Flexity at peak time in the core to the point you have to let 2-3 cars pass you and hope the car you get on is going where you want to go in the first place on 504. Ridership has increased as well having more strollers and scooter/wheelchair on the new cars compare to no scooters/wheelchairs as well larger strollers these days. At the rate the new fleets is being built, they will not be all here by year end. Then, they will not be all in service come 2020 due to weld issues as well testing new cars for service like it has happen the last 3 years. I didn't say it was a good idea but doable. When routes have been fully converted to LF, other than 504/514, they have reduced the number of cars operated. We know that ridership is up but service seems to be adjusted to keep the "number of seats" about the same because there is no budget to really increase service. I agree more service is needed and CLRVs could be replaced one for one with Flexity cars and there would still be crowding, but unless there's pressure to actually increase service by keeping the number of cars operated constant after the conversion, 501 and 506 will run with fewer cars, and will keep bus trippers. TTC management has made its decision on the retirement of the CLRVs this year, rightly or wrongly based on what we've been hearing. I'd like to think some will continue running into 2020 to keep service levels up as there is no way all the Flexity cars can be in service by this year at the current rate. PCCs were supposed to be fully replaced by ALRVs in 1988 but record ridership meant service had to increase and they lasted a couple of extra years and we have a similar situation today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Anyone know why a car might be tracking at Exhibition loop for an extended period of time? 4029 has been reporting there all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: Anyone know why a car might be tracking at Exhibition loop for an extended period of time? 4029 has been reporting there all day. Could possibly be broken down or just a broken tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Ultimate said: Could possibly be broken down or just a broken tracker Still tracking there as of this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 13 hours ago, PCC Guy said: Anyone know why a car might be tracking at Exhibition loop for an extended period of time? 4029 has been reporting there all day. Not sure about the C's. However, since last month, the loop at CNE has been used for overnight storage of about 10-12 Flexity cars on very cold nights and whenever there was a snow storm or ice storm in the next day's forecast. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 4120 is tracking inside Leslie and seems to have moved recently despite being retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, 7575 said: 4120 is tracking inside Leslie and seems to have moved recently despite being retired. That's because it's being used as a yard mule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Matthew TTC 4120 said: That's because it's being used as a yard mule. Well that explains it all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 4225 has seen the road again today as a training car for new operators. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, bus_7246 said: 4225 has seen the road again today as a training car for new operators. The question is why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, WoodbineSecondExit said: The question is why? With the two handfuls of cars left, the warmer weather may warrant the idle cars back from the dead...? If I can get more intel on this, I will But all new operators still need to be trained on all concurrent equipment that is still relevant, and still being utilized for service to whatever capacity 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 21 hours ago, bus_7246 said: But all new operators still need to be trained on all concurrent equipment that is still relevant, and still being utilized for service to whatever capacity It will be interesting to see what the TTC does with the CLRV simulator at Hillcrest once the old cars are all gone. Surely they can preserve it, maybe even donate it to a museum or some other place for people to try out? Or maybe the electronics are just too old to keep...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 39 minutes ago, Transit geek said: It will be interesting to see what the TTC does with the CLRV simulator at Hillcrest once the old cars are all gone. Surely they can preserve it, maybe even donate it to a museum or some other place for people to try out? Or maybe the electronics are just too old to keep...? It’s actually gone. When I went for my first day of operator training, it was nowhere to be found in the operations training centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 The simulator was spoken for by Halton county some time ago. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 10:31 PM, WoodbineSecondExit said: The question is why? It's to train them how to call for help when they break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMATAC40LF Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 A partly stripped down 4163 was parked outside of Hillcrest yesterday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, WMATAC40LF said: A partly stripped down 4163 was parked outside of Hillcrest yesterday. It's been there for a week maybe more. It was still there as of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, WMATAC40LF said: A partly stripped down 4163 was parked outside of Hillcrest yesterday. I love the capacitors on line warnings on the cabinets that you can see in that picture since the two body cover have been removed. Do you trust in-circuit bleeder resistors? I don't. Big hint for museums: Don't trust in-circuit bleeder resistors. Connect a voltmeter across capacitors in the high voltage circuits and observe discharge. If it doesn't discharge on it's own, there's no in-circuit bleeder or it's gone open circuit and you'll want to connect your own discharge jumper with a resistor in it forming a reasonable time constant to drain them off. Do not use a shorting bar because the extremely rapid discharge rate caused by a circuit that's got an RC time constant of zero can damage the capacitors internally and weld your jumper to the terminals. Think about how much charge is stored and what kind of voltage it's sitting at in the traction circuit. Then, once discharged, that's when you connect a shorting bar across to prevent recharge due to dielectric absorption. You don't want the circuit you're convinced you've made safe charging up and becoming dangerous again while you work on it. Then again, considering how foul tempered and nasty some of the ancient trolley museum geezers I've encountered have been, maybe a little shock therapy combined with some of that recently legalized stuff's in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Unfortunately looks like 4242 is retired. I looked at Russell and saw it with its trolley pole tied down 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, jor said: Unfortunately looks like 4242 is retired. I looked at Russell and saw it with its trolley pole tied down Thanks for the update. I have decided to take the liberty of striking all the ALRVs that haven't tracked in a while off the active roster. If there is anything inaccurate about the 11 that remain, let me know. Right now I have: 4203 4204 4207 4221 (MIA, pending news of stripping or reactivation) 4225 4226 4228 4229 4236 (MIA, pending news of stripping or reactivation) 4243 4249 One of these should be retired to coincide with the 10 car figure indicated in the service summary, but I don't know which. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: Thanks for the update. I have decided to take the liberty of striking all the ALRVs that haven't tracked in a while off the active roster. If there is anything inaccurate about the 11 that remain, let me know. Right now I have: 4203 4204 4207 4221 (MIA, pending news of stripping or reactivation) 4225 4226 4228 4229 4236 (MIA, pending news of stripping or reactivation) 4243 4249 One of these should be retired to coincide with the 10 car figure indicated in the service summary, but I don't know which. 4236 maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 4225 did a trip across Gerrard with trainees wb by Jones last Thursday. That was the last unofficial time one was running on the city streets 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 4032, 4093 and 4149 are parked in the scrap line at Leslie. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 MIA CLRVs: 4002, 4004, 4029, 4037, 4067, 4068, 4073, 4084, 4094, 4100, 4101, 4144, 4178, 4180 Previously MIA but back in service: 4024, 4079, 4147, 4155 4094 was in service on Feb 26 but it appears to have gone missing again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 4073 is retired at Leslie. 4100 was on 501 yesterday. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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