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30 minutes ago, MK78 said:

Saw 4040 as a Training Car at Greenwood/Queen this afternoon. It's surprising they are still training operators on these... Or do already trained operators go thru some sort of refreshes every few years, etc?

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Yes, there's an operator re certification that happens every now and then.

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15 minutes ago, 7749 said:

Yes, there's an operator re certification that happens every now and then.

Thanks, that makes sense

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306/306 Carlton

Effective September 2, 2018

No accessible vehicles currently operate on this route.

 

(ETA: I think they mean 506/306?) Straight from:

http://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Accessible_service/index.jsphttp://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Accessible_service/index.jsp

Proof: taken Monday night, December 2, 2019 ^_^:

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First car, seen leaving, is 4187. Tail end car is 4085. Unidentified CLRV with lights out in the middle.

 

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36 minutes ago, Ed T. said:

 

(ETA: I think they mean 506/306?) Straight from:

http://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Accessible_service/index.jsp

 

That's an old announcement from fall 2018 when streetcars returned to the 506 after bustitution in the spring and summer of that year. The buses were accessible, the CLRVs are not, making the route temporarily accessible. That page hasn't been updated in nearly 6 months so it's outdated anyways.

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21 minutes ago, christine said:

That's an old announcement from fall 2018 when streetcars returned to the 506 after bustitution in the spring and summer of that year. The buses were accessible, the CLRVs are not, making the route temporarily accessible. That page hasn't been updated in nearly 6 months so it's outdated anyways.

Many of the pages for TTC routes seem to never get updated. The 505 page under “route description” also says that no accessible vehicles operate on the route despite the fact that they’ve had accessible buses for quite some time now. Between their Twitter accounts and website, the chances of customers getting accurate and up to date TTC info isn’t the greatest. 

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I was on 4085 going to Main this afternoon. It did not sound very healthy, lots of noises coming from the back. Didn't sound like it was just a bad compressor. Other weird clunks and noises.

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4 hours ago, drum118 said:

Sadly the photo I have of the car that was supposed to be shot at ISO 3200 has the number partly out of focuses and looks more like 4067. Since I don't track retire car numbers and 4067 was to been reported retire early this year, will have to go with 4057 at this time. I guess the snow was causing the out of focuses for this car as well a few others. Also shot the car out of the window where I was having lunch.

4024 also doesn't have the farewell stickers. You may have mistyped 4124.

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12 minutes ago, 7749 said:

4075 is on a flatbed

According to Transsee the last run was Sept 30 on the 506

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21 hours ago, PCC Guy said:

4024 also doesn't have the farewell stickers. You may have mistyped 4124.

  I actually heard that 4024 has recieved the stickers as well now.

 

Edit-It did not, my bad

 

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4 hours ago, 7749 said:

4075 is on a flatbed

It's also stripped(forgot to mention lol)

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6 minutes ago, CLRV4094 said:

  I actually heard that 4024 has recieved the stickers as well now.

Well, it didn't when I saw it yesterday on the 506.

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5 minutes ago, PCC Guy said:

Well, it didn't when I saw it yesterday on the 506.

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Well, I'm wrong then.. But I do know that 4057, 4071, 4081, 4124 have the farewell wrap.

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31 minutes ago, CLRV4094 said:

  I actually heard that 4024 has recieved the stickers as well now.

 

I haven't noticed any all week, despite riding 506. Where is this sticker?

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5 minutes ago, nfitz said:

I haven't noticed any all week, despite riding 506. Where is this sticker?

The stickers are on rear on the right side and in the middle of the left side

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27 minutes ago, splendidwizardplayer said:

The stickers are on rear on the right side and in the middle of the left side

Therefore it’s very easy to miss it while riding the streetcars since they’re on the opposite side you board on and the sticker on the right side is near the very back and can’t be seen especially if boarding from the front. 

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3 minutes ago, CLRV4002 said:

Therefore it’s very easy to miss it while riding the streetcars since they’re on the opposite side you board on and the sticker on the right side is near the very back and can’t be seen especially if boarding from the front. 

You can't see any wraps on CLRVs when you are on a streetcar anyways...

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17 minutes ago, splendidwizardplayer said:

You can't see any wraps on CLRVs when you are on a streetcar anyways...

Stickers or wraps?

(the wraps that cover the windows are certainly visible ... and normally identifiable from the coordinated inside advertising)

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4 minutes ago, nfitz said:

Stickers or wraps?

(the wraps that cover the windows are certainly visible ... and normally identifiable from the coordinated inside advertising)

Both. Even if your going 5 mph the low or high floor will cut off half of the wrap or sticker.

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DEC 4

Morning rush hour:

506: 4021, 4085, 4110, 4147, 4170, 4178, 4184
511: 4024, 4042, 4057, 4069, 4074, 4091, 4104, 4123, 4164, 4165, 4176, 4179

DEC 5

Morning rush hour:

506: 4178
511: 4021, 4024, 4040, 4042, 4048, 4057, 4081, 4091, 4123, 4165, 4176, 4179

  

15 hours ago, nfitz said:

Stickers or wraps?

(the wraps that cover the windows are certainly visible ... and normally identifiable from the coordinated inside advertising)

 

 

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3 hours ago, christine said:

There's no more CLRVs (excluding 4178) on the 506. Looks like they replaced them with buses this morning.

4178 isn’t running now, from what I can see, the 506 is all-flexity 

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12 minutes ago, Streety McCarface said:

4178 isn’t running now, from what I can see, the 506 is all-flexity 

That's the first time they've had full Flexity service out there since the brake incident.

I saw 4178 heading eastbound on Lower Gerrard near Greenwood - in a bunch behind 2 Flexities at around 8:30 - hopefully it was an extra, because 3 cars together on a route that only runs every 8 minutes means there's a 24-minute gap hiding somewhere. These service cuts aren't going to encourage more people to take transit ... with the typical lackadaisical TTC route management.

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