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1 hour ago, jor said:

4221 tracking at queen close to glen manor for a while now. Is something up with it?

From what I could see it was the lead car when there were “mechanical problems” between Kingston and Neville. It got to Neville Loop under its own power, then returned to Russell with 1-2 more delays. But not 100% sure 4221 was the cause of the mechanical problems 

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23 hours ago, bus_7246 said:

4228 is coupled to 4208, followed by 4214 and 4217. 4215 was moved, and roof packages were stripped by afternoon in the scrapping area on 20 track. A decommissioned CLRV was next door on 21 track, but I didn’t get to see the number

So 4228 has its roof units removed or 4215? 4243 isn’t tracking 

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I got a few pictures of 4207 also, which I rode

i saw that 4207 went to russell loop and turned back to go westbound

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17 minutes ago, TTC T6H-5307N 2252 said:

So 4228 has its roof units removed or 4215? 4243 isn’t tracking 

I think he was talking about 4215

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16 hours ago, hamiltontransithistory said:

Saw the front half of 4243 being hauled away at Kingston & Dundas at around 12:30 this afternoon

There was a pic on Reddit of what I assume is 4243 then. It looks like they've set up a car scrapping area at Russell. Some overhead is down and there's a loader and forklift there. Saw what I assume was the start of the process the other day with the loader lifting a car off the trucks.

 

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21 hours ago, jor said:

Car 4022 has stopped tracking now

I last spotted in earlier in the week. It was parked in between a couple of refurbished ALRVs in the scrapping area. Still looked shiny.

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3 hours ago, CLRV4002 said:

4141 and 4164 have been in service. 

And does anyone know if 4230 is still at exhibition loop or what’s going on with it and why it was brought there in the first place 

It is not actually there, broken tracker 

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13 hours ago, Ultimate said:

It is not actually there, broken tracker 

There was a sighting of it on King the other day. I believe it went to Exhibition loop, but now I have no idea where it is 

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We now have 4226 and 4249 going westbound on Queen. Anyone have any sightings or know if they’re in service ? 

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On a less pleasant note, 4204 appears to have been shut off. Hopefully this isn't the end of the line for the car - I was personally hoping this one would be saved, being that it was the first one to run in service so many years ago.

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7 hours ago, PCC Guy said:

On a less pleasant note, 4204 appears to have been shut off. Hopefully this isn't the end of the line for the car - I was personally hoping this one would be saved, being that it was the first one to run in service so many years ago.

IMG_3177.thumb.JPG.e7113c1cfd832f4abdbf917433057b22.JPG Here's a pic I took of it today, and yes I think the overhead wire is down if I remember correctly.

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Here is a summary of the remaining ALRV fleet to the best of my knowledge:

4203- Tracking at Russell, hasn't run since June 2018

4204- At Russell, possibly shut off 

4207- At Russell, in service last week 

4208- I believe at Russell, not tracking 

4221- Ran last week & suffered air compressor failure, tracking in the lake, but likely still at Hillcrest

4225- At Russell

4226- Went along Queen to Roncesvalles yard yesterday, still there 

4228- At Russell, tracking again this morning 

4229- I believe at Russell, tracking but location is wrong 

4230- Ran to exhibition loop last week, sighting of it on King NIS, hasn't tracked in a few days 

4236- At Russell 

4249- Same situation as 4226 

 

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4249 also making its way to exhibition loop 

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2 hours ago, CLRV4002 said:

Here is a summary of the remaining ALRV fleet to the best of my knowledge:

4203- Tracking at Russell, hasn't run since June 2018

4204- At Russell, possibly shut off 

4207- At Russell, in service last week 

4208- I believe at Russell, not tracking 

4221- Ran last week & suffered air compressor failure, tracking in the lake, but likely still at Hillcrest

4225- At Russell

4226- Went along Queen to Roncesvalles yard yesterday, still there 

4228- At Russell, tracking again this morning 

4229- I believe at Russell, tracking but location is wrong 

4230- Ran to exhibition loop last week, sighting of it on King NIS, hasn't tracked in a few days 

4236- At Russell 

4249- Same situation as 4226 

 

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4249 also making its way to exhibition loop 

4229 is indeed at russel, saw it there yesterday. It looked a bit more cleaner than other ALRVs.

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13 hours ago, CLRV4002 said:

Here is a summary of the remaining ALRV fleet to the best of my knowledge:

4203- Tracking at Russell, hasn't run since June 2018

4204- At Russell, possibly shut off 

4207- At Russell, in service last week 

4208- I believe at Russell, not tracking 

4221- Ran last week & suffered air compressor failure, tracking in the lake, but likely still at Hillcrest

4225- At Russell

4226- Went along Queen to Roncesvalles yard yesterday, still there 

4228- At Russell, tracking again this morning 

4229- I believe at Russell, tracking but location is wrong 

4230- Ran to exhibition loop last week, sighting of it on King NIS, hasn't tracked in a few days 

4236- At Russell 

4249- Same situation as 4226 

 

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4249 also making its way to exhibition loop 

Are the alrvs actually on 511 again? I thought they only appear on 501 now

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57 minutes ago, jor said:

Are the alrvs actually on 511 again? I thought they only appear on 501 now

4230 and 4249 have been at exhibition loop for some reason, but haven’t run in service on the 511

That being said, Queen is being converted to 100% low floor in the June-July board period. According to Steve Munro, 501 rush hour trippers from Kingston Rd to Sunnyside will operate with 3 buses and it’s currenlty unknown if the trippers to Long Branch will continue.

At that time, what will become of the ALRVs is unknown. Some possibilities include: Running on the 511 (especially during the CNE), operating as the Long Branch trippers, running as unscheduled extras or unfortunately the most likely outcome: them not running at all 

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