TTCOpITM Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 4082 is retired as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Well this is different. Nextbus is showing that ALRV 4249 was in service for a couple of hours on 506 today, from about noon to 2 pm including a visit to the loop at High Park. Currently still logged in as 506 but on Queen West near John. Not sure if that's real or not ... I'm sure it's happened, but I can't recall seeing an in-service ALRV on 506 in the 15 or so years I've lived near Gerrard Street (though lots of detouring 501s on lower Gerrard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, nfitz said: Well this is different. Nextbus is showing that ALRV 4249 was in service for a couple of hours on 506 today, from about noon to 2 pm including a visit to the loop at High Park. Currently still logged in as 506 but on Queen West near John. Not sure if that's real or not ... I'm sure it's happened, but I can't recall seeing an in-service ALRV on 506 in the 15 or so years I've lived near Gerrard Street (though lots of detouring 501s on lower Gerrard). I saw random ALRV streetcars showing up on 505 and 506 during 2017. Not too many but a few. I think this was during Queen street construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Maybe there will be a few ALRV's on 506 or others when 501 is fully converted to Flexity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCOpITM Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 hours ago, WoodbineSecondExit said: I saw random ALRV streetcars showing up on 505 and 506 during 2017. Not too many but a few. I think this was during Queen street construction. Yup, there was definitely a time during the summer of 2017 when some ALRVs were deployed onto the 505 and 506 during the Queen Street construction. I distinctly recall my first and only time ever operating 4212 was as a 505 on one particular day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, TTCOpITM said: Yup, there was definitely a time during the summer of 2017 when some ALRVs were deployed onto the 505 and 506 during the Queen Street construction. I distinctly recall my first and only time ever operating 4212 was as a 505 on one particular day.. Looking back at my posts from last year I have the following Friday April 7, unknown ALRV on College (I wasn't close enough to get a good look it might not have been in service) Sunday May 28, 4212 4217 4226 on 505 Sunday June 25, 4200 and 4209 on 506 Saturday July 8, 4246 on 506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, WoodbineSecondExit said: Looking back at my posts from last year I have the following Friday April 7, unknown ALRV on College (I wasn't close enough to get a good look it might not have been in service) Sunday May 28, 4212 4217 4226 on 505 Sunday June 25, 4200 and 4209 on 506 Saturday July 8, 4246 on 506 And 4246 did 506 on Friday December 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 13 hours ago, nfitz said: I'm sure it's happened, but I can't recall seeing an in-service ALRV on 506 in the 15 or so years I've lived near Gerrard Street (though lots of detouring 501s on lower Gerrard). I'm pretty sure I've seen ALRV trippers on 506 some time in the early 2000s. Seen while walking through Allan Gardens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Ed T. said: I'm pretty sure I've seen ALRV trippers on 506 some time in the early 2000s. Seen while walking through Allan Gardens. Possibly 508 cars returning to the yard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 I feel like the 501 is the best place for the ALRVs until they are scrapped, even if it means delayed route designation as accessible, to keep things nice and gentle for them (and generally close to a yard - maybe restrict to Humber Loop runs ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 5 hours ago, dowlingm said: I feel like the 501 is the best place for the ALRVs until they are scrapped, even if it means delayed route designation as accessible, to keep things nice and gentle for them (and generally close to a yard - maybe restrict to Humber Loop runs ) I only saw 2 ALRV on 501 Thursday on a trip from Long Branch Loop to Broadview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 I'm not sure the 501 could be considered a very gentle route for cars to end their lives on. Maybe the 502/503? Also close to a yard, but shorter, and with far more limited service hours. Or the 508... if that ever comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 16 hours ago, WoodbineSecondExit said: Possibly 508 cars returning to the yard? They used to run up Parliament and west on Gerrard/Carleton/College back to Roncesvalles. So quite possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 4229 is still alive and kicking. It was out on the roads being used for training on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 10:29 AM, drum118 said: I only saw 2 ALRV on 501 Thursday on a trip from Long Branch Loop to Broadview. I rode from Greenwood to Long Branch starting around 4:30 PM, and 4236 was actually the first car to show up. I saw 4230, as well as 4249, going the other way. I may have saw a fourth ALRV but can't recall (and wasn't looking all that hard). ALRVs are like king penguins moving regally amongst the CRLV gentoos. On 10/13/2018 at 12:36 PM, nfitz said: They used to run up Parliament and west on Gerrard/Carleton/College back to Roncesvalles. So quite possibly. That might have been what I was seeing. I know it was explained to me at the time on the transit-toronto mailing list, but I can't find those emails now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Last week I saw 4232 on Kingston Road in Scarborough being towed away to the scrapyard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 4093 and 4117 are both back today on the 501. 4154 hasn't run since October 10 and its GPS is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 4229 has been shuffling between building and yard tracks at Russell the last 4 days. I don't think it has seen any revenue service. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 4052 and 4165 are back today, on the 501 and 506. 4041 is reporting back at Russell for the first time in a couple of weeks' time. 4066 is tracking at Roncesvalles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 4197 done, collision on Sep 7 on Gerrard St East. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityflyer Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 We're down to 1 ALRV out today according to Transsee. Looks like the massive fix they did to bring them back to service at the beginning of Sept didn't hold up that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 4011 is reporting new GPS data again, 4021's GPS is dead, 4057, 4145 and 4177 are cached at Hillcrest, 4186 and 4192 are tracking at Leslie. Anyone know what's going on with 4167? The car appears to have fallen through the cracks. When they were testing the VISION system they had to use real car numbers for some reason, so it, and many (retired) CLRVs and ALRVs at reporting at Arrow, all in the exact same location. Most of these are retired units so this is not an issue, but I have 4167 indicated as being active. According to the logs on TransSee it hasn't run at all since they implemented vehicle history (May 15). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 4167 is done and soon to scrap. 4224 was towed to Leslie this morning too. 4152 & 4154 are about to begin going through the salvaging process at Russell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 13 hours ago, PCC Guy said: 4011 is reporting new GPS data again, 4021's GPS is dead, 4057, 4145 and 4177 are cached at Hillcrest, 4186 and 4192 are tracking at Leslie. Anyone know what's going on with 4167? The car appears to have fallen through the cracks. When they were testing the VISION system they had to use real car numbers for some reason, so it, and many (retired) CLRVs and ALRVs at reporting at Arrow, all in the exact same location. Most of these are retired units so this is not an issue, but I have 4167 indicated as being active. According to the logs on TransSee it hasn't run at all since they implemented vehicle history (May 15). Oh, so they are now expanding VISION to the streetcar fleet? Not sure if that is worth the investment on a fleet whose replacement is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 It's already been established that the legacy fleet is getting VISION - bus_7246 told us a few weeks ago that 4094 is the prototype for that installation. The tests that I'm referring to were general VISION tests - I believe it was discussed in the forum that this was the cause of ghost vehicles spawning around town. For some reason, they used the fleet numbers of a lot of long retired legacy cars for those tests (and some cars which continued to exist afterwards, like 4011), so you have long dead vehicles like 4005 and 4231 reporting relatively recent GPS data, and most of those cars are reporting out of one of the bus garages. Not sure why, but it does make looking for MIA ALRVs a right pain in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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