MK78 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Saw 4108 on a flatbed at Russell just half hour ago. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, TTC Guy said: How do you know. Because I'm not an idiot. Halton County's trackwork is built to TTC specs, right down to the turning loops. Dan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 https://twitter.com/TTC146Eminem/status/1186651888659374080?s=20 There she goes! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, smallspy said: Because I'm not an idiot. Halton County's trackwork is built to TTC specs, right down to the turning loops. Dan I have spoken to several operators and mechanics there and they have said that it is very unlikely that 4204 will run. I they do then it’s my mistake and I will admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, TTC Guy said: I have spoken to several operators and mechanics there and they have said that it is very unlikely that the will run. I they do then it’s my mistake and I will admit that. Did they say it wouldn’t run specifically because of the loop or just in general? I wouldn’t have a hard time believing it won’t run for other mechanical reasons. On the same note, does anyone know if 4221, 4228, 4230 or 4249 or parts from those will be going to Halton to be used on 4204 now or when future repairs are needed? 4207 has also been brought into the carhouse at Russell 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andythagiant Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Anyone noticed how they sent 4204 away with Presto equipment still on it? I don’t supposed Metrolinx is donating their own working property away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 I was just on Queen near Yonge and saw 4057, 4053 and 4048 go eastbound NIS. Then I saw 4178 go by but couldn’t see the rollsign. It was headed eastbound but signed into the 504. Still heading eastbound on Queen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TTC Guy said: I have spoken to several operators and mechanics there and they have said that it is very unlikely that 4204 will run. I they do then it’s my mistake and I will admit that. That doesn't have to have anything to do with track geometry.The ALRVs were, as you know, troublesome all their life. It may be simpler to just lay it up on display than to bother trying to get it to work. That being said, perhaps we should wait for an official statement from the museum, instead of making assumptions. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, PCC Guy said: That doesn't have to have anything to do with track geometry.The ALRVs were, as you know, troublesome all their life. It may be simpler to just lay it up on display than to bother trying to get it to work. Exactly. An ALRV is capable of running anywhere a CLRV is, which is capable of running anywhere a PCC is, etc. But the ability to run it? That's a different story. 1 hour ago, PCC Guy said: That being said, perhaps we should wait for an official statement from the museum, instead of making assumptions. Also very sage advice. Most of the people at the TTC have no connections at the museum, and have no idea about what their plans are. Dan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 hours ago, TTC Guy said: High chances that it won’t be running, the Turning radius at Meadowvale Loop is too tight If they got the Gloucester’s and Montrealer’s through the loop just fine when they used it. I can’t see why an ALRV would be an issue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsview 108 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, John Oke said: If they got the Gloucester’s and Montrealer’s through the loop just fine when they used it. I can’t see why an ALRV would be an issue Beat me to it lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityflyer Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Not so much the Gloucester but if the Montrealer at 23m with no bends in the body can do it, what can't go through it? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Some pics from twitter (I didn’t take these) of 4178 today with some 501 and 504 rollsigns. Note the front and side signs on each don’t match. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, CLRV4002 said: Note the front and side signs on each don’t match. ... so regular service then. Probably a third one altogether on the back ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 I thought they reversed the Gs and Ms before the loop, like they do currently with that L&PS car? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, John Oke said: If they got the Gloucester’s and Montrealer’s through the loop just fine when they used it. I can’t see why an ALRV would be an issue No, the subway cars haven't gone through the loops. It has been an eternity since I've seen the HCRR manual so I'm going off old memory plus there may have been revisions to it between then and now, but in one section there is a list of cars in it that are not to be looped and it includes the subway cars, #8, 107 etc. Will HCRR operate the ALRV? No idea. On the other hand, if they try and it goes bad, a dead, conked out ALRV blocking the track interrupting streetcar service would accurately model how things went with them on the TTC for decades, so there are bonus points for authenticity to be had here. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsview 108 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Which of the remaining CLRVs have the "futura" numbers? 4089 has a couple digits, 4069 and 4191 has some above the rollsign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Andythagiant said: Anyone noticed how they sent 4204 away with Presto equipment still on it? I don’t supposed Metrolinx is donating their own working property away. “Working” 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/streetcarmuseum/status/1186808504301940736?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1186808504301940736&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcptdb.ca%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsystem%26controller%3Dembed%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fstreetcarmuseum%2Fstatus%2F1186808504301940736%3Fs%3D21&fbclid=IwAR3_-57OzFP-svsOBS87miWc4Vf8AqTEjVZkcYvQNgZ3sAxhoEon1gIfOaI 4204 was able to make it around the East Loop at Halton but not the West one. in this pic it is on the track at Halton and it was posted by the museum themselves 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 hours ago, John Oke said: If they got the Gloucester’s and Montrealer’s through the loop just fine when they used it. They didn't. 10 hours ago, CLRV4094 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/streetcarmuseum/status/1186808504301940736?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1186808504301940736&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcptdb.ca%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsystem%26controller%3Dembed%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fstreetcarmuseum%2Fstatus%2F1186808504301940736%3Fs%3D21&fbclid=IwAR3_-57OzFP-svsOBS87miWc4Vf8AqTEjVZkcYvQNgZ3sAxhoEon1gIfOaI 4204 was able to make it around the East Loop at Halton but not the West one. in this pic it is on the track at Halton and it was posted by the museum themselves Read the thread again. They never said that it wasn't able to go around the West Loop. Just that it hadn't (yet). There is a world of difference between the two statements. Dan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 It looks like 4178 is on the 501 today. It isn’t signed in but keeps going back and forth along Queen. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 According to spottings on Facebook: 4030 was scheduled for departure for the scrapheap on October 21, 2019; 4050 was spotted heading eastbound on the 401 this morning. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DepthOfField Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Posted today. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 4117 is done. 4127 is on the rocket launcher for leaving tomorrow. 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabianColeyLOVESBUSES Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 4132 seems to be done as well. Has 4145 been in service recently since it pushed 4030 around Russell Division a few weeks ago? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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