Tom1122 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Who was responsible for the accident that ultimately did in 4002? The CLRV or the other vehicle? And how did the damage compare to the accidents 4043 and 4119 were in as both were involved in bad accidents and were repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 ....And for the first time since getting painted in art, 4178 is in service on the 511 for Nuit Blanche. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 I was speaking to someone from TTC HR on the ALRV farewell trip and he said that 4001-4004 where being preserved. I was told that a few CLRV'S are going to be sent to San Francisco. They're going to keep about 7 CLRV'S for charters/special events. a few are going to be sent to the HCRY. So I think it's a surprise that 4002 and 4004 are being scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 http://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Route_diversions/506_CIBC_Oct.jsp Tomorrow the 506 will be split into 2 routes from 8:30 AM to 12:30 PM. If anyone wants CLRV photos in Spadina Station, on Spadina/Spadina Cres., or on Dundas crossing the valley, tomorrow might be your last or one of your last sure opportunities to do so. Enjoy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 4024 is back in service on 506 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCNLFBT Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 4040 and 4069 on the 511 this morning. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 More bad news from Hillcrest. 4004 is now gone from its spot outside. It may be inside Hillcrest getting parts stripped off. 4190 is outside of Hillcrest, pole down and has Training car displayed on the front and side signs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 10:46 AM, CLRV4002 said: http://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Route_diversions/506_CIBC_Oct.jsp Tomorrow the 506 will be split into 2 routes from 8:30 AM to 12:30 PM. If anyone wants CLRV photos in Spadina Station, on Spadina/Spadina Cres., or on Dundas crossing the valley, tomorrow might be your last or one of your last sure opportunities to do so. Enjoy Thanks for the tip. Most runs were signed either Short Turn or Not in Service into the station although there was at least one that was signed 506 Spadina. BTW the last car to go into Spadina was 4176 (not pictured). 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 These are some of my favorite pictures I took on the ALRV farewell trip using my DSLR camera. Should I post more from the farewell trip? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Is 4150 still active? Per the wiki says its Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Ultimate said: Is 4150 still active? Per the wiki says its Active That car has been history since the end of July I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 4132 has been in service. According to tracker, 4075 hasn’t run since Sept 30th 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWC Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 4001 is in the back of Russell Yard with its pole down. Maybe this one is to be kept or sent Halton Railway Museum. 4030 is in front of it pole down as well. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, JWC said: 4001 is in the back of Russell Yard with its pole down. Maybe this one is to be kept or sent Halton Railway Museum. 4030 is in front of it pole down as well. Both of those cars have particpated in Beaches Easter Parades. 4001 as far as I know will likely be preserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 4051 pushed 4011 into the workshop this evening. I didn't see 4011 missing any parts, but the fact that it couldn't move under its own power is concerning. 4002 is back at Russell, parked on one of the dead tracks behind 4079. Perhaps one of the last times she will be together with sisters 4001 and 4003 before they feast on her bones.. err, parts. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 hours ago, JWC said: 4001 is in the back of Russell Yard with its pole down. Maybe this one is to be kept or sent Halton Railway Museum. 4030 is in front of it pole down as well. Or it could be going to San Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Why San Francisco? Has MUNI expressed any interest in any of our CLRVs? I know that they have a big historical collection over there, but the majority of those cars were PCCs, which San Francisco had previous experience with. Doesn't mean they'll be interested in picking up every derelict tram fleet on the continent. Anecdotally, I've heard that they were not terribly pleased with the third hand A14 cars they acquired in the 1970s, and have no interest in further ex-TTC equipment as a result. However, I did not hear that from Adam, so it's possible that that's foamer rumour and innuendo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 https://beta.cp24.com/news/2019/10/8/1_4629942.html Someone got hit getting off a streetcar near Bay and College today. I saw it on the news and didn’t need to look for a number since the paint job gave it away. She was getting off 4178 on its first day on the 506. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Oke Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: , I did not hear that from Adam, so it's possible that that's foamer rumour and innuendo. HR told me this on the ALRV farwell trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 No offence, but I don't exactly think that TTC HR is a prime source for things going on fleet wise, as that's not their area of focus. People much closer to the operational side of things have made various claims about individual series of Orion VIIs retiring, and, going further back, about the H5s being moved down to the BD line in 2010ish to replace the H4s. I acknowledge that there's the possibility of some heritage operation somewhere picking up a CLRV (like a trolley museum), but I don't know why it would be San Francisco. All of the cars they picked up second hand so many years ago weren't actually a departure from what they had known from the decades before, and after 70 odd years of a tradition I would hope they have built up a significant parts supply and pool of knowledgeable workers. Acquiring CLRVs would require them to train personnel and create a parts inventory for a whole new group of cars, and one that would presumably be much smaller than their PCC collection. And to what end? Are the CLRVs anywhere close to being as much of a tourist attraction as a group of PCCs, all painted up to represent the liveries of various operators, are? Would they pay for themselves and justify the expense? I don't have the answer to these questions, but I'm skeptical. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 4195 derailed at Spadina and King eariler causing delays. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 8 hours ago, PCC Guy said: No offence, but I don't exactly think that TTC HR is a prime source for things going on fleet wise, as that's not their area of focus. People much closer to the operational side of things have made various claims about individual series of Orion VIIs retiring, and, going further back, about the H5s being moved down to the BD line in 2010ish to replace the H4s. I acknowledge that there's the possibility of some heritage operation somewhere picking up a CLRV (like a trolley museum), but I don't know why it would be San Francisco. All of the cars they picked up second hand so many years ago weren't actually a departure from what they had known from the decades before, and after 70 odd years of a tradition I would hope they have built up a significant parts supply and pool of knowledgeable workers. Acquiring CLRVs would require them to train personnel and create a parts inventory for a whole new group of cars, and one that would presumably be much smaller than their PCC collection. And to what end? Are the CLRVs anywhere close to being as much of a tourist attraction as a group of PCCs, all painted up to represent the liveries of various operators, are? Would they pay for themselves and justify the expense? I don't have the answer to these questions, but I'm skeptical. They didn't want to keep a hometown Boeing car so I don't think they'd want a CLRV of similar vintage. Apparently the focus is on pre-1954 cars for the historic fleet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 All 6 remaining ALRVs at Russell are tracking again. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 19 hours ago, CLRV4002 said: https://beta.cp24.com/news/2019/10/8/1_4629942.html Someone got hit getting off a streetcar near Bay and College today. I saw it on the news and didn’t need to look for a number since the paint job gave it away. She was getting off 4178 on its first day on the 506. Suburban councillors will claim 4178's paint job amounts to disruptive pattern material and so drivers can't see the car somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidwizardplayer Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 47 minutes ago, dowlingm said: Suburban councillors will claim 4178's paint job amounts to disruptive pattern material and so drivers can't see the car somehow. I the middle of the night it makes sense because the back is black but in the middle of the day that makes no sense drivers can't see the big black thing in the middle of street, that makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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