CLRV4002 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Looking at transsee data, 4001 seems to have had some issues out on the 506 yesterday, it was pulled out of service, put back into service then pulled out of service again. It was in the Carhouse at Russell yesterday afternoon and it is now at Hillcrest. 4242 may not be done yet as it tracked again yesterday at Russell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, CLRV4002 said: Looking at transsee data, 4001 seems to have had some issues out on the 506 yesterday, it was pulled out of service, put back into service then pulled out of service again. It was in the Carhouse at Russell yesterday afternoon and it is now at Hillcrest. 4242 may not be done yet as it tracked again yesterday at Russell 4243 has last tracked about 13 days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, jor said: 4243 has last tracked about 13 days ago 4242 not 4243. 4242 is marked as retired but it may not be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basket Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 hours ago, CLRV4002 said: 4242 not 4243. 4242 is marked as retired but it may not be 4242 could be retired, the pole is hung down as of a week ago and the rear lights are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Until confirmation comes I will not be marking any more ALRVs as retired. We have 13 marked as not retired, but the service summary only indicates 10. 4242 has had its pole pulled down since at least October, by the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, PCC Guy said: Until confirmation comes I will not be marking any more ALRVs as retired. We have 13 marked as not retired, but the service summary only indicates 10. 4242 has had its pole pulled down since at least October, by the way. It’s strange that 4242 tracked yesterday considering it hasn’t run in almost a year (May 29, 2018) The TTC also adjusted their decommissioning schedule, prior to this month it stated that 10 ALRVs would be retired in 2019 but the new schedule says 15. The service summaries do say 10 remain, but I’m unsure about the May board service summary. But I guess overall the ALRV fleet is not alive but not dead either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, CLRV4002 said: It’s strange that 4242 tracked yesterday considering it hasn’t run in almost a year (May 29, 2018) The TTC also adjusted their decommissioning schedule, prior to this month it stated that 10 ALRVs would be retired in 2019 but the new schedule says 15. The service summaries do say 10 remain, but I’m unsure about the May board service summary. But I guess overall the ALRV fleet is not alive but not dead either we should check with the streetcar operator trainees. If they are not trained on the ALRV, it is safe to say they are done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, leylandvictory2 said: we should check with the streetcar operator trainees. If they are not trained on the ALRV, it is safe to say they are done. One was used for training back in February, 2 were spotted in the service bays back in April 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, TTC T6H-5307N 2252 said: One was used for training back in February, 2 were spotted in the service bays back in April Yes, some ALRVs seem to enter the service bays from time to time. 4226 seems to be in there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 hours ago, CLRV4002 said: It’s strange that 4242 tracked yesterday considering it hasn’t run in almost a year (May 29, 2018) One thing that has happened a number of occasions in the past is that the CIS unit was pulled from one unit and placed in another - without reprogramming the vehicle's number into the unit. This is somewhat less likely to happen now that CIS is limited to a very select number of vehicles, but it could still happen. Dan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Is 4075 still the yard mule or is it gonna die at Leslie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 So now I composed a list of "special" CLRVs/ALRVs CLRVs 4000 - prototype, font on back left side 4001 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2019 4002 - first car delivered in Dec 1977 4010 - first car produced by Hawker Siddeley in Canada, first in revenue service 4027/4029/4031 - were in Boston for a bit in the 1980s 4040 - was wrapped all black to promote the memoriam in April 2018 4041 - A/C unit on top from 2006 until its retirement 4043 - ALRV wipers 4050 - one of the first to get the new font 4062 - second clrv to be retired b/c of crash with 7807 4063 - first CLRV to be retired 4080 - featured in Resident Evil 4069/4089 - weird lettering on sides 4094 - first to get vision 4111 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2017 4117 - there is a shirt with this car on it 4119 - sounds like H5/H6 4125 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2016 4162 - first clrv retired because of wear and tear 4169 - no buzz 4179 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2018 4180 - had different number font on each side 4186 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2014 4189 - had different number font on each side 4191 - interior font on top front of the car 4199 - last CLRV ALRVs 4200 - last ALRV to run on 504 4204 - first in revenue service, last in revenue service (for now) 4213 - SNKRS express 4214 - last unrefurbished ALRV in revenue service 4215 - used on the first furry charter (after refurbishment) 4217 - first to be refurbished, used in a fashion show, used in beaches lions easter parade 2016 and 2017 4221 - last to be refurbished, used on the second furry charter 4225 - showcased at Leslie Barns and for the 514 cherry 4229 - last ALRV to run on a test run 4231 - first to be retired 4233 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2014 4238 - font on back left side 4244 - temporarily had no fleet number on left front side, had different number font on each side 4249 - 2nd SNKRS express 4251 - had different number font on each side, last ALRV 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7749 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, jor said: So now I composed a list of "special" CLRVs/ALRVs CLRVs 4000 - prototype, font on back left side 4001 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2019 4002 - first car delivered in Dec 1977 4010 - first car produced by Hawker Siddeley in Canada, first in revenue service 4027/4029/4031 - were in Boston for a bit in the 1980s 4040 - was wrapped all black to promote the memoriam in April 2018 4041 - A/C unit on top from 2006 until its retirement 4043 - ALRV wipers 4050 - one of the first to get the new font 4062 - second clrv to be retired b/c of crash with 7807 4063 - first CLRV to be retired 4080 - featured in Resident Evil 4069/4089 - weird lettering on sides 4094 - first to get vision 4111 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2017 4117 - there is a shirt with this car on it 4119 - sounds like H5/H6 4125 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2016 4162 - first clrv retired because of wear and tear 4169 - no buzz 4179 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2018 4180 - had different number font on each side 4186 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2014 4189 - had different number font on each side 4191 - interior font on top front of the car 4199 - last CLRV ALRVs 4200 - last ALRV to run on 504 4204 - first in revenue service, last in revenue service (for now) 4213 - SNKRS express 4214 - last unrefurbished ALRV in revenue service 4215 - used on the first furry charter (after refurbishment) 4217 - first to be refurbished, used in a fashion show, used in beaches lions easter parade 2016 and 2017 4221 - last to be refurbished, used on the second furry charter 4225 - showcased at Leslie Barns and for the 514 cherry 4229 - last ALRV to run on a test run 4231 - first to be retired 4233 - used in beaches lions easter parade 2014 4238 - font on back left side 4244 - temporarily had no fleet number on left front side, had different number font on each side 4249 - 2nd SNKRS express 4251 - had different number font on each side, last ALRV Not too special but 4124 has the side numbers written lower than normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, jor said: So now I composed a list A lot of them have had special uses and non-standard equipment, most of them known only internally. You could fill a whole page if you looked at fleet number font variations. Here are a few off the top of my head to get you started. If you really want to make a comprehensive list, start researching, there's a lot history before 2014 to be found. 4000 - 1984 Celebration Ontario Bicentennial (yellow) 4002 - 1984 Celebration Toronto Sesquicentennial 4005 - 1984 Celebration Ontario Bicentennial (blue) 4031 - last car with couplers in 1988 4024 - chartered by Dave Stewart of Eurythmics for tour promotion 1990 4046 - WSIB all-black remembrance car in 2018 4063 - used to carry Saudi prince to CNE for special Saudi Arabia exhibit 1991 (I think). 4072 - used in official opening for 509 in 2000 4089 - air conditioning prototype- removed after test period 4093-4106 equipped with radios for night car service before CIS (up to 1990). 4134 - first ever wrapped CLRV, for Starbucks in 2000 4136 - clearance test car for roof-mounted air conditioning (type used on 4041) 4140 - at 514 opening June 2018 4145 - last one in service with original gold-tinted windshield 4165 - first CLRV to receive LED taillights 4175 - to be used for 1984 celebration, paint adhesion problems, first CLRV repainted that wasn't one of the celebration cars 4205 - used in official opening of 509 in 2000 4238 - protoype air-conditioning later removed 4240 - first ALRV with LED taillights 4251 - first wrapped ALRV, for Starbucks (similar to 4134) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 To add: 4107 had ALRV wipers like 4043 did, and 4000 was displayed at the 1978 CNE. Per Transit Toronto, "4113 was the first scheduled vehicle to depart Dufferin loop in 514 CHERRY service, at 7:45 a.m. on Sunday, June 19, 2016." To that end, does anyone know which CLRV was the first one to run in revenue service? I know they entered service on Sep 30 1979 but to my knowledge I've never read which unit was the first to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Half of an ALRV headed east on Kingston on a flatbed to scrap. Didn't get numbers. 10 minutes ago at Kingston/Midland. I'll go by Russell today to see what's missing. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 There was a 406x, I think 4066, that was used in a 1998 film Last Night. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, 7575 said: Half of an ALRV headed east on Kingston on a flatbed to scrap. Didn't get numbers. 10 minutes ago at Kingston/Midland. I'll go by Russell today to see what's missing. 4242. Both sections were hauled off today 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Robert Lubinski said: A lot of them have had special uses and non-standard equipment, most of them known only internally. You could fill a whole page if you looked at fleet number font variations. I think fonts are irrelevant, as are wraps or movie appoerances. 4047 was the first car to get resilient, PCC-style wheels. Prior to that, PCCs were put out at nights because the original as-delivered wheels rumbled terribly. Which car was the first to get slider windows, instead of the original Bake Magic non-opening windows? Which car was the first to get single seats on the closed side? Which car(s) had the diagnonal seating in the front section? (Pretty sure that would be the Swiss car(s).) Which car was the first to get LED green advance lights? It's still a long list of trivia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andythagiant Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 4200 getting ready for the 1 stop ride to the scrapyard. 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Ed T. said: I think fonts are irrelevant, as are wraps or movie appoerances. 4047 was the first car to get resilient, PCC-style wheels. Prior to that, PCCs were put out at nights because the original as-delivered wheels rumbled terribly. Which car was the first to get slider windows, instead of the original Bake Magic non-opening windows? Which car was the first to get single seats on the closed side? I think 10 were done initially. I might have the list. Which car(s) had the diagnonal seating in the front section? (Pretty sure that would be the Swiss car(s).) Correct. Which car was the first to get LED green advance lights? 4041 got rectangular LED advance lights which were changed to the current type when it was repainted. It's still a long list of trivia. Indeed! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4002 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Andythagiant said: 4200 getting ready for the 1 stop ride to the scrapyard. It's a shame that they're being scrapped with the rollsigns, it would have been good to sell them as memorabilia. On another note, 4094 is now tracking at the front of Russell and was signed into the 17 Birchmount bus two days ago. Yesterday afternoon, there was a crash on Gerrard near Pape. I'm unsure whether or not a CLRV was involved or it only involved autos. 4003 was tracking at the front of the line of the blocked streetcars. Once the collision was clear, 4003 was brought immediately down Coxwell and into the Carhouse at Russell, where it is still tracking from now. Does anyone know if it was actually in yet another collision ? Edit: 4003 back out today Edited May 10, 2019 by CLRV4002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Any update of the ALRVs at the service bays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 4001 4012 4143 4192 are at Hillcrest Also 4141 is a unit to look out for. I spotted it inside of Roncesvalles on Sunday (May 5) and is still sitting there now. According to transsee, it last served on May 4 on 501. 4171 is on 501 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Matthew TTC 4120 said: 4171 is on 501 Do you have a physical sighting of this unit? It was last reported as being partially stripped at Russell, but with the power still on, and then a few days later it started tracking back in service. That sounds highly suspect, and I presume that, just like with 4242, someone neglected to reprogram the fleet number. Some visual confirmation would be nice, however. Edited May 10, 2019 by PCC Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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