jor Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 The last ALRV I have ridden was 4230 on Jan 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 My last ALRV was 4204 on January 19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWC Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 23 hours ago, bus_7246 said: 4214, 4247 and 4251 are all still at Russell, in states of stripped. 4215 and 4217 have had their trump units harvested. What is a trump unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, JWC said: What is a trump unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWC Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ultimate said: Thanks Ultimate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I saw a post about 4242 officially being retired and scrapped https://twitter.com/hashtag/russelldivision 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Interesting that in that photo of 4210 at that link from November 2018, the car had its lights on despite being parked in that spot for months on end. Is that not a waste, to keep a dead streetcar lit up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 The post just says “... sleep well 4242. Thank you for your service.” There no indication of it scrapped as of yet. On that note, 4215 sits in the spot where 4242 once was. 4029 looks to be on the chopping block as well. Relic preservers will have to act quickly on this one 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm pretty sure 4242 is scrapped, since 4215 took its spot also it cannot track I rode 4242 on the 504 in 2017. Its condition didn't look the greatest at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, bus_7246 said: 4029 looks to be on the chopping block as well. Relic preservers will have to act quickly on this one It’s Seashore Trolley Museum who has interest in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, TTC T6H-5307N 2252 said: It’s Seashore Trolley Museum who has interest in it Are they? Don't call out places as that could and will ruin the chances for any to be preserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, TTC 9701 said: Are they? Don't call out places as that could and will ruin the chances for any to be preserved. It's been previously confirmed in this thread that Seashore are interesting in acquiring a CLRV. There was a longstanding rumour that they wanted one of the three that went to Boston, but with 4029 being as shabby as it is and the other two long gone I'd be surprised if that was the one they ended up going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 hours ago, PCC Guy said: It's been previously confirmed in this thread that Seashore are interesting in acquiring a CLRV. There was a longstanding rumour that they wanted one of the three that went to Boston, but with 4029 being as shabby as it is and the other two long gone I'd be surprised if that was the one they ended up going for. It's been talked and bandied about for years, probably since the three cars ran in Boston, so it's far from being top secret, eyes only stuff. Anyways, on the subject of off-TTC operations, I was talking with some friends a while ago and one of them's convinced that a CLRV was demonstrated on the Shaker Heights line in Cleveland back in the day. Something about that sounds vaguely familiar like maybe the idea was contemplated at one point but I couldn't turn up anything online to conclusively prove or disprove it unlike the Boston and Swiss trials. Does anybody know one way or the other for sure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 The post of 4242 is outdated. There's no evidence of it being scrapped. 4210 was on the last track (west) when I was at Russell. Trolley pole on 4210 was tied down. Catcher/receiver on 4210 has been harvested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 I marked 4242 as being retired at the start of the month. I felt it was reasonable to conclude that it had been, based on its prolonged absence from service, as well as the number of ALRVs that were reported as being active in the service summary compared to what was still tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andythagiant Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 4091 is at Hillcrest, it broke down the other night while heading back to Russell after running on 501L all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 4101 is tracking on 506 as of 0830 this morning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 4020 was also out on the 501 this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 How did 4229 go from retired to active again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, jor said: How did 4229 go from retired to active again? I realized it was never indicated as being stripped, plus the plans to put the ALRVs back in service mean that we don't actually know if that one will run again or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Wayside Observer said: Anyways, on the subject of off-TTC operations, I was talking with some friends a while ago and one of them's convinced that a CLRV was demonstrated on the Shaker Heights line in Cleveland back in the day. Something about that sounds vaguely familiar like maybe the idea was contemplated at one point but I couldn't turn up anything online to conclusively prove or disprove it unlike the Boston and Swiss trials. Does anybody know one way or the other for sure? Back when Toronto was first receiving the CLRVs in 1978, they sold 9 PCCs to Cleveland for the Shaker Heights line. Perhaps this is misremembered, or there was some talk back then of testing one of the CLRVs there. Should be some evidence if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameskoole Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Standard_Light_Rail_Vehicle Quote The Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority tested MBTA car #3401 on former interurban lines in mid-1976, but ultimately declined to purchase the US SLRV, instead buying custom LRVs of a different design from Breda.[21] When Cleveland released a request for quote in September 1977, Boeing Vertol bid US$869,492 (equivalent to $3,600,000 in 2018) per SLRV, exceeding Breda's winning bid of US$645,833 (equivalent to $2,700,000 in 2018) per car.[6]:221 [11][22] SEPTA of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania was initially interested (especially because the SLRV would be locally produced), but purchased custom LRVs from Kawasaki because the US SLRV would not clear the City Hall loop.[21] SEPTA tailored the bid by specifying the vehicle width to be 4 in (100 mm) narrower than the SLRV specification to exclude it from consideration.[6]:95 The Kawasaki cars for SEPTA were assembled at the Boeing Vertol plant to meet "Buy America" requirements.[23] The US SLRV design also influenced the early design of the Canadian Light Rail Vehicle.[21] I did a bunch of sleuthing around the internet and found this mention of an MBTA car test in Cleveland on Wikipedia. The US SLRV is visually quite similar to the CLRV (as the article mentions) so perhaps it's a case of mistaken identity. I haven't found any references to CLRV's being tested in Clevelnad, but the timelines do match up with Cleveland's purchase timelines so maybe it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7575 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Exactly 31 years after it first entered service, 4204 was grounded, possibly permanently. I just noticed that, just wanted to say. First ALRV to operate, last ALRV to operate. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 what does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jor Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 what is 4204's fate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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