T3G Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, nfitz said: Were they? One is now parked at Russell, and the other is at Leslie. If they were in service, neither lasted long. And all those 506s that were tracking parked at Russell now vanished except for 4135 and 4160 that have been parked at Russell since yesterday. If Nextbus is correct then there's only 10 buses in service on 506 and another two on 306(!) right now and nothing else! Hopefully there's more buses out there somewhere ... Looks like they both just did a trip from Parliament to Main and then down to Lower Gerrard. Both cars are now at Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, PCC Guy said: And now they're both back in service on the 506. No streetcars showing on 506 now except those two that were logged in yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Shemar said: Some buses just might not be signed into the 506 and that is sometimes the case. Based on the half-hour I walked along Gerrard around 7 pm, waiting for a bus, and only seeing a single bus heading the opposite away (on the tracker), and then the only other bus I passed when one finally came also on the tracker ... there was nothing out there I saw that wasn't on the tracker. Peak must have been ugly - even the one I finally caught at Greenwood was at capacity when I boarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, nfitz said: Based on the half-hour I walked along Gerrard around 7 pm, waiting for a bus, and only seeing a single bus heading the opposite away (on the tracker), and then the only other bus I passed when one finally came also on the tracker ... there was nothing out there I saw that wasn't on the tracker. Peak must have been ugly - even the one I finally caught at Greenwood was at capacity when I boarded. It didn't look like they had the vehicles ready. I guess widely spread buses is better than having a CLRV froze on route. They should just tell everyone to take a bus to Line 2 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Order has been restored, the CLRVs have returned to service today. And so has 4091, on the 506 today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 I still saw a couple Flexity's passing by at Queen & Greenwood this morning in service on the 501, along with buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, PCC Guy said: Order has been restored, the CLRVs have returned to service today. And so has 4091, on the 506 today. On 506. Looks like more buses than streetcars out on 501. And no CLRVs or ALRVs. But with temperatures heading back to normal, hopefully everything back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 hours ago, nfitz said: On 506. Looks like more buses than streetcars out on 501. And no CLRVs or ALRVs. But with temperatures heading back to normal, hopefully everything back soon. Looks like a few CLRVs are out on the 501 now, still mixed in with Flexities and buses. We're slowly getting there... 4029 is out on the 506, and 4067 and 4125 were deadheaded from Hillcrest to Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 5 hours ago, PCC Guy said: Looks like a few CLRVs are out on the 501 now, still mixed in with Flexities and buses. We're slowly getting there... 4029 is out on the 506, and 4067 and 4125 were deadheaded from Hillcrest to Russell. Saw 6 eastbound bus, 5 Flexity west of Spadina and 5 Flexity, 4 CLRV and 3 buses going west. Gaps up to 10 minutes going both way, with convoy up to 3 at various time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 A question begs to be asked... When they ran almost 100% Flexity on Monday on 501 Queen, did they have enough Flexity's for the other routes that already use them regularly? If so, why aren't we seeing more use of Flexity vehicles on 501 during normal weather? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MK78 said: A question begs to be asked... When they ran almost 100% Flexity on Monday on 501 Queen, did they have enough Flexity's for the other routes that already use them regularly? If so, why aren't we seeing more use of Flexity vehicles on 501 during normal weather? 506 was all buses so it used no streetcars so that saved them a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 hours ago, MK78 said: A question begs to be asked... When they ran almost 100% Flexity on Monday on 501 Queen, did they have enough Flexity's for the other routes that already use them regularly? If so, why aren't we seeing more use of Flexity vehicles on 501 during normal weather? I think they stole a few from other routes like King and Spadina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Lots of MIA CLRVs back in service today: 4066, 4067, 4080, 4125, 4144, 4148 on 501 4042, 4104, 4186 on 506 4087 and 4170 have returned to Russell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 hours ago, MK78 said: A question begs to be asked... When they ran almost 100% Flexity on Monday on 501 Queen, did they have enough Flexity's for the other routes that already use them regularly? If so, why aren't we seeing more use of Flexity vehicles on 501 during normal weather? It does feel like they should have 10 available for Queen every weekday instead of the 5 they have been regularly putting out there. Assuming 122 cars accepted for service you have 80 for the 504/509/510/512 peak requirements, 20% maintenance spares (24), 4 cars on long term disability, and 4 training cars, which should leave 10. The maintenance ratio can't be that high on brand new vehicles can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Lubinski Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, WoodbineSecondExit said: It does feel like they should have 10 available for Queen every weekday instead of the 5 they have been regularly putting out there. Assuming 122 cars accepted for service you have 80 for the 504/509/510/512 peak requirements, 20% maintenance spares (24), 4 cars on long term disability, and 4 training cars, which should leave 10. The maintenance ratio can't be that high on brand new vehicles can it? Would cars in for inspections etc be included in the spares or taken out of the 10? I'm thinking of the Standard inspections that take all day to complete, which require the cars to be ready first thing, so they wouldn't go out in the morning. They might do one or two each day but those cars would be unavailable for the whole day. There are also cars scheduled for interior washes from top to bottom which takes them out for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Would anyone be able to elaborate on what the maintenance cycle for the streetcar fleet looks like? How often does a car get taken out for work and what is done to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 hours ago, MK78 said: A question begs to be asked... When they ran almost 100% Flexity on Monday on 501 Queen, did they have enough Flexity's for the other routes that already use them regularly? If so, why aren't we seeing more use of Flexity vehicles on 501 during normal weather? TTC had 100 cars on the road on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Robert Lubinski said: Would cars in for inspections etc be included in the spares or taken out of the 10? I'm thinking of the Standard inspections that take all day to complete, which require the cars to be ready first thing, so they wouldn't go out in the morning. They might do one or two each day but those cars would be unavailable for the whole day. There are also cars scheduled for interior washes from top to bottom which takes them out for the day. That I don't know but the target maintenance spares ratio seems to be 18%. Next week is shaping up to be another bad week for the old streetcars. Flexity's might be running on 506 again this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 4086 and 4087 on 501, and 4170 on 506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 4110 on 501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 I saw 4023 on Lakeshore about to head into the underpass to Humber Loop with "Not In Service" on the sign running empty. No chase car or service truck though. I couldn't tell why it was taken out of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Wayside Observer said: I saw 4023 on Lakeshore about to head into the underpass to Humber Loop with "Not In Service" on the sign running empty. No chase car or service truck though. I couldn't tell why it was taken out of service. The car had a minor issue earlier in the day that was attended to by the service truck this morning. Whether or not the car will be out all day, only the trackers will show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayside Observer Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 4001 was out on 507 Long Branch this morning about 9:00 AM while I was on my way home from work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 It's interesting to see that when you search for any CLRVs or ALRVs in service, they're (almost) always found only on Queen and Carlton. The new cars cover Spadina, Harbourfront, King, and St. Clair. As far as I've heard, when Bathurst reopens, it will probably be all LFLRV as well. So the only carlines that we may expect to still see CLRVs on (forget ALRVs) would be Dundas and the Kingston Road pair. Anyone know what was the first day when there were more LFLRVs in service than CLRV/ALRVs? Also it seems to me that Kingston Road is the only mainline section that does not have upgraded overhead, along with a good section of Coxwell (including the lower Gerrard overhead). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/26/2019 at 10:50 AM, Ed T. said: Anyone know what was the first day when there were more LFLRVs in service than CLRV/ALRVs? Well, we remember the day last week when the TTC pulled all CLRVs/ALRVs from service due to the polar vortex and replaced them with buses - without withdrawing any Flexity's, thus unknowingly making the entire surface network accessible for a day (sadly this hardly made any headlines...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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