TTC CLRV/ALRV updates and discussion

[T3G]

This thread is for tracking the TTC's CLRV/ALRV streetcars as they begin retiring.

List of vehicles:

Bolded units of all colours = MIA

Bolded and crossed out units of all colours = retired

Green = car that underwent life extension

Blue = undergoing life extension

Gold = preserved unit

Gold with asterisk = preserved unit that underwent life extension while in service

Bolded and crossed out red = unit that entered or was prepared for the life extension program, but was retired prior to completion

CLRV: 4/196 active

4000, 4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, 4005, 4010, 4011, 4012, 4013, 4014, 4015, 4016, 4017, 4018, 4019, 4020, 4021, 4022, 4023, 4024, 4025, 4026, 4027, 4028, 4029, 4030, 4031, 4032, 4033, 4034, 4035, 4036, 4037, 4038, 4039, 4040, 4041, 4042, 4043, 4044, 4045, 4046, 4047, 4048, 4049, 4050, 4051, 4052, 4053, 4054, 4055, 4056, 4057, 4058, 4059, 4060, 4061, 4062, 4063, 4064, 4065, 4066, 4067, 4068, 4069, 4070, 4071, 4072, 4073, 4074, 4075, 4076, 4077, 4078, 4079, 4080, 4081, 4082, 4083, 4084, 4085, 4086, 4087, 4088, 4089, 4090, 4091, 4092, 4093, 4094, 4095, 4096, 4097, 4098, 4099, 4100, 4101, 4102, 4103, 4104, 4105, 4106, 4107, 4108, 4109, 4110, 4111, 4112, 4113, 4114, 4115, 4116, 4117, 4118, 4119, 4120, 4121, 4122, 4123, 4124, 4125, 4126, 4127, 4128, 4129, 4130, 4131, 4132, 4133, 4134, 4135, 4136, 4137, 4138, 4139, 4140, 4141, 4142, 4143, 4144, 4145, 4146, 4147, 4148, 4149, 4150, 4151, 4152, 4153, 4154, 4155, 4156, 4157, 4158, 4159, 4160, 4161, 4162, 4163, 4164, 4165, 4166, 4167, 4168, 4169, 4170, 4171, 4172, 4173, 4174, 4175, 4176, 4177, 4178, 4179, 4180, 4181, 4182, 4183, 4184, 4185, 4186, 4187, 4188, 4189, 4190, 4191, 4192, 4193, 4194, 4195, 4196, 4197, 4198, 4199

ALRV: 1/52 active

4200, 4201, 4202, 4203, 4204*, 4205, 4206, 4207*, 4208, 4209, 4210, 4211, 4212, 4213, 4214, 4215, 4216, 4217, 4218, 4219, 4220, 4221, 4222, 4223, 4224, 4225, 4226, 4227, 4228, 4229, 4230, 4231, 4232, 4233, 4234, 4235, 4236, 4237, 4238, 4239, 4240, 4241, 4242, 4243, 4244, 4245, 4246, 4247, 4248, 4249, 4250, 4251

Feel free to post any sightings, pictures, notes or memories you have.

PLEASE NOTE: ALL LEGACY CARS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM REGULAR SERVICE.

Edited July 31, 2020 by PCC Guy

[soo8513]

Thanks for starting. Still missing 4201 and 4249 so hopefully will ride them soon.

[2044]

4005 has been decommissioned.

[T3G]

4005 has been decommissioned.

Thanks! Post has been updated.

Does anyone know where the decommissioned cars go before being hauled off for scrap? Do they languish around Hillcrest, or do they keep them in the yards?

[noahrp24]

Just wondering but do they even bother leaving the retired cars to a side for parts for the other streetcars before scrapping them? We don't know if the flexitys will delay even more or not. They do that with the buses that are retired (excluding ones in process of retirement)

Edit: The first list with all the numbers, you should update it every once in a while so we don't have to dig though lists and lists later on. Another suggestion is to use a red font for those who are 100% confirmed retired and not just "maybe" its retired.

[nfitz]

4005 has been decommissioned.

When? I saw it out on 506 on April 17th.

[nfitz]

Mentioned to my wife this evening that some of the streetcars were retiring ... and she said that reminded her .. she'd been on one of the old ones with red seats 2-3 weeks ago, and she thought she heard the operator making some announcements about the vehicle retiring. So that would be 4005 I would guess.

[skyfirenet]

Any word on whether the HCRY has started to put out feelers for one of each yet? While the electronics are a problem, they potentially can get a hold of a large parts supply to keep them running.

[nfitz]

Right now, Nextbus is showing MIA 4211 on 501 in Etobicoke and 4241 on 501 in the Beaches. So presumably both are back in service.

[noahrp24]

This morning I checked transee during the rush hour and I punched in 4000-4005 and only 4000-4004 showed in service so for sure 4005 is retired.

[Xtrazsteve]

This morning I checked transee during the rush hour and I punched in 4000-4005 and only 4000-4004 showed in service so for sure 4005 is retired.

For goodness sakes, not every vehicle TTC owns makes it into service in rush hour. TTC has a 10-15% spare ratio. Some vehicles stay on hoists for repairs which can take up to a few month. Buses like 7940 haven't seen service since crashing into that plaza. It doesn't appear on Transsee in rush hour, it doesn't mean it's retired.

[nfitz]

I don't think I saw 4005 on Transee for months at a time!

[leylandvictory2]

it has been mentioned on the other thread that 4005 has retired.

[bus_7246]

4151 is now deemed retired.

4206 has been a long standing service hold.

4208 & 4217 are going through the life extension program.

4239 is in for a new compressor.

[T3G]

Thanks for the updates! Finally, a CLRV retired that I've actually photoed

Do you know how much time the life extension is supposed to buy the ALRVs? How many are going through the program? Thanks!

[Xtrazsteve]

Thanks for the updates! Finally, a CLRV retired that I've actually photoed

Do you know how much time the life extension is supposed to buy the ALRVs? How many are going through the program? Thanks!

When they all retire, you'll have more photos of retired streetcars.

[T3G]

When they all retire, you'll have more photos of retired streetcars.

Yes, but the earliest units retired are more significant in my mind

[leylandvictory2]

you should had said "Good. I got a photo of that streetcar before it turns into soup can or something like that."

[nfitz]

The TTC service summary containing the May 22nd vehicle roster indicates there are only 50 ALRVs remaining, not 51. So presumably something else has retired. http://www.ttc.ca/PDF/Transit_Planning/Service_Summary_2015-06-21.pdf

(it shows 192 CLRVs remaining, so either 2 have been retired since then, or a couple aren't official yet).

[Xtrazsteve]

Looks like the artics are moving from Bathurst to the 196 during the game.

The 511 will get the new streetcars too.

Totally off topic

[TransitfanJW]

Delete

[bus_7246]

4250 hasn't seen service for a good long while. As of late last week, it's not officially written (mostly hearsay spoken) that she been retired too.

[STC125]

4250 hasn't seen service for a good long while. As of late last week, it's not officially written (mostly hearsay spoken) that she been retired too.

4250 is definitely retired and Scrapped now. Video from Facebook.

Don't think this is fixablePosted by Nicholas Nichols on Monday, August 17, 2015

[T3G]

If anyone has any new information on unit disposition, please remember to post here and not into other threads, it makes my life easier that way Thank you!

[bus_7246]

CLRVs that have received body overhauls last year (list was comprised based off of visual appearance):

4001-03, 4010, 4012, 4014, 4018, 4020-24, 4030, 4032, 4034, 4037, 4039-42, 4048, 4050-53, 4057, 4065-69, 4071, 4073-75, 4077, 4079, 4081, 4084-85, 4090-91, 4093-94, 4098, 4100, 4104-06, 4108, 4110-11, 4114-15, 4119, 4123-25, 4127, 4131-33, 4137, 4140-41, 4143-47, 4149, 4152-53, 4155, 4161, 4163-65, 4169-71, 4175-76, 4178-79, 4181-82, 4184-87, 4189, 4191-93, 4195, 4198

Also, 4249 has been away at Harvey undergoing its 10 year life extension for last 3 and half months.