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Apparently the CSX train was on the track the Amatrak train was designated to travel on. 

 

Would PTC detect that there is a other train on the same track and stop the train? If this was CTC controlled territory shouldn't the dispatcher know that two trains where on the same track? 

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6 hours ago, Shaun said:

Apparently the CSX train was on the track the Amatrak train was designated to travel on. 

 

No. The freight train was parked on a siding, and for some reason the switch diverted the Amtrak from the main into the siding, causing the crash. The investigation will probably focus on the switch, and potentially the signaling system (which was having work done the night before). 

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Because of construction at Penn Station, Amtrak is running some trains to Grand Central. They are using MARC cab cars between Albany and New York due to difficulty evactuating the locomotive with the clearance in the Park Avenue tunnel.

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18 hours ago, ADB said:

Because of construction at Penn Station, Amtrak is running some trains to Grand Central. They are using MARC cab cars between Albany and New York due to difficulty evactuating the locomotive with the clearance in the Park Avenue tunnel.

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Amtrak is retrofitting the P32's with escape hatches in the nose to allow those locomotives to lead on any track in the Park Ave. tunnel.  There are various photos and videos online showing these modified units in service.  

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On 6/3/2018 at 4:36 PM, ADB said:

Because of construction at Penn Station, Amtrak is running some trains to Grand Central. They are using MARC cab cars between Albany and New York due to difficulty evactuating the locomotive with the clearance in the Park Avenue tunnel.

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How long is Amtrak leasing MARC cab cars for?

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9 hours ago, RailBus63 said:

Amtrak is retrofitting the P32's with escape hatches in the nose to allow those locomotives to lead on any track in the Park Ave. tunnel.  There are various photos and videos online showing these modified units in service.  

I have not seen any contracts for any such modification, nor have I seen any photos of such modified units owned by Amtrak. Are you perhaps thinking of the CDOT-owned units, which were delivered with escape hatches from the factory?

 

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13 hours ago, RailBus63 said:

Amtrak is retrofitting the P32's with escape hatches in the nose to allow those locomotives to lead on any track in the Park Ave. tunnel.  There are various photos and videos online showing these modified units in service.  

They wouldn't bother spending money on that. The State of New York is currently funding the rebuilding of Amtrak's P32s at Beech Grove, and thus far none of the units outshopped have had such a modification installed. From a financial standpoint its probably cheaper to lease old cab cars on a short term basis.

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19 hours ago, WMATAC40LF said:

They wouldn't bother spending money on that. The State of New York is currently funding the rebuilding of Amtrak's P32s at Beech Grove, and thus far none of the units outshopped have had such a modification installed. From a financial standpoint its probably cheaper to lease old cab cars on a short term basis.

Um, yes they are spending money on the hatches.  Video proof here - 

 

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11 hours ago, RailBus63 said:

Um, yes they are spending money on the hatches.  Video proof here -

Thanks for that. Considering the condition of the units sporting the hatches, it's obvious that this is being done outside the scope and independent of the rebuild program.

 

Is there a full listing of which units are currently sporting the hatches, and when they were outshopped? Do we know where the work is being done?

 

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Didn't know they were doing that. I looked it up and found some answers on railroad.net. The work is apparently being done at the Rensselaer shops, and so far 701, 704, 705, 708, and 712 are confirmed to have hatches installed, and more are supposedly on the way. 

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2 hours ago, Shaun said:

I wonder if VIA would pickup the parlour cars?

Are the P42's salvageable?  

The Parlor cars are old and worn out. I don't think it would be worthwhile for VIA to invest any money in them (given that they would need major structural and interior overhauls).

Of the three P42s for sale, one (21) was seriously damaged in a grade crossing accident, while the other two (49 and 70) were seriously damaged in fires. Not sure how many parts these things are missing, but they are in terrible condition, and will probably be sold for scrap.

If VIA was in need of used equipment, there are way better outlets they they could go to for it (aside from maybe the baggage cars, but I don't know if VIA needs any). My prediction is that a lot of the equipment Amtrak is trying to sell here will never run again. 

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10 hours ago, Oc4526 said:

The Baggage and Horizon fleet could possibly be used in the Corridor. 

The baggage cars are ancient ex-SP sleepers that were repurposed into baggage cars 25 years ago, and probably suffer from the same ills as the similarly-vintaged HEP2 fleet.

 

The Horizon cars might be an interesting purchase if VIA operated a similarly configured car - but they don't.


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I find it hard to believe the Heritage Baggage Cars up for sale are good for more than being parted out. Amtrak has run a few on CN track to meet axle count numbers but my sense was that they couldn't get the rest out of regular service fast enough once the ViewBags finally showed up.

I don't see VIA acquiring P42s in any state since they seem to me the locomotive class most likely to be replaced by the next gen Corridor power. The P40s - I believe they were the ones who didn't get ARRA rebuild so also doubt they are coming. Maybe CTDOT picks up a few to provide parts for their other P40s. Any F40s in decent shape probably end up somewhere perpetually in power crisis like MBTA.

I have heard Horizons don't do well in winter so I don't see VIA having any interest anyway - HEP wiring compatibility issues to start, but more importantly on railroad.net they are asserted to be long term stored wreck damaged and a glance at OnTrackOnLine makes me think that is correct. 

Essentially this feels like a bunch of stuff Amtrak held onto in the event of another stimulus rebuild, but with the Midwest order about to cascade a bunch of power and coaches plus Trump in the White House, someone decided it was time to clear out Beech Grove and Bear dead lines.

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