323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 A bunch more daytime shots of the 15000s https://www.flickr.com/photos/chsscassidy/albums/72157660897195813 Just noticed these have a new style of "Fare Paid Zone" decals, and also "No Smoking" decals at all of the doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8800GTX Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Oooh. From the looks of it they might even be getting the 96 ready for all-door boarding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Oooh. From the looks of it they might even be getting the 96 ready for all-door boarding... Somehow, people manage to force all door boarding on the 096 (at surrey central, albeit). Only because they think its similar to the 099, they just board right after someone exits through the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando737 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Half the time they don't wait, they just push their way onto the bus before people have gotten off. The 96 can do all for boarding currently with the D60LF's, those buses were doing it on the 99 before coming to Surrey. The fare paid zone stickers are at the back doors of every bus, not just the artics. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 http://buzzer.translink.ca/2016/01/buses-the-next-generation/Buzzer blog has an article up on the XDE60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Bus Fan Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I cannot wait to see them on the 96 B-line. I wonder if CMBC will consist some more XDE60 to STC to increase capacity on the 319 and 502. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Bus Fan Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I cannot wait to see them on the 96 B-line. I wonder if CMBC will consist some more XDE60 to STC to increase capacity on the 319 and 502. Artics would be nice on the 319 but that's not going to happen for quite a long time ... In the mean time, I would like to see an increase in frequency, especially during the weekday afternoon rush hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDOOM Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Stupid question time: how well-suited is the #96 to taking advantage of hybrid propulsion? Would it have made more sense to have sent this entire order to Burnaby and then have transferred D60LFRs to Surrey to replace the old D60LFs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando737 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm sure the 96 will take advantage of the hybrid enough to make it worth it. But if you think about it, the 125 and 135 are the only artic routes that have local stops out of all the artic routes in BTC. The rest are all express so it doesn't really make much of a difference anyway. The other thing to consider is some of the 96 runs go to do the N19 and that will the advantage of the hybrid technology. Also, the hybrid buses seem to be able to handle runs that are out for 24 hours as far as fuel is concerned. There is one run on the 135 where the paddle sits in the depot for all of about 15 to 20 minutes. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcelsior Bus Fan Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 http://buzzer.translink.ca/2016/01/buses-the-next-generation/ Buzzer blog has an article up on the XDE60s Cant wait till they are in service. Just wish that they didn't have LED lights. I can't stand LED lighting at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 They'll also prefer the XDE60s out here in surrey because of security cameras and safety especially during the nighttime runs. I'm sure they'll use the camera-equipped vehicles whenver they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando737 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Even if all of these went to BTC and STC got a transfer to replace the current D60LF's, they would probably send the D60LFR's and/or DE60LFR's to give STC artics with camera's. But it's just easier to send the new buses straight to where they are needed instead of transferring. And the camera's will be welcome on the N19 I'm sure. As for the LED headlights, I prefer them from a drivers point of view. Can see so much more and they illuminate further than standard headlights. The headlights on the Xcelsior's are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northwesterner Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Stupid question time: how well-suited is the #96 to taking advantage of hybrid propulsion? Would it have made more sense to have sent this entire order to Burnaby and then have transferred D60LFRs to Surrey to replace the old D60LFs? All of the artic routes, in the entire system are suited to a hybrid propulsion system. Even when they are running limited stop or express service, they are operating on urban arterials, which inherently brings a lot of stopping and starting just from traffic and lights. Its not as if any of these routes are getting on a freeway and running all out for thirty minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcelsior Bus Fan Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Even if all of these went to BTC and STC got a transfer to replace the current D60LF's, they would probably send the D60LFR's and/or DE60LFR's to give STC artics with camera's. But it's just easier to send the new buses straight to where they are needed instead of transferring. And the camera's will be welcome on the N19 I'm sure. As for the LED headlights, I prefer them from a drivers point of view. Can see so much more and they illuminate further than standard headlights. The headlights on the Xcelsior's are great. LED headlights I dont mind so much but wish the interior lights continued to use fluorescent lights rather then LEDs. Have noticed that many buses are getting its fluorescent interior lights retrofitted to LED and wish that wasn't done. I can't stand LED lighting at all. Wish the buses with LED interior lights got retrofitted to fluorescent lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8800GTX Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'm sure the 96 will take advantage of the hybrid enough to make it worth it. But if you think about it, the 125 and 135 are the only artic routes that have local stops out of all the artic routes in BTC. The rest are all express so it doesn't really make much of a difference anyway. The other thing to consider is some of the 96 runs go to do the N19 and that will the advantage of the hybrid technology. Also, the hybrid buses seem to be able to handle runs that are out for 24 hours as far as fuel is concerned. There is one run on the 135 where the paddle sits in the depot for all of about 15 to 20 minutes. BTC will be getting some of the new artics so the 125 could be getting some of the hybrid action, and 135 is definitely getting it - although it's going to turn into a B-Line next year anyway. They'll also prefer the XDE60s out here in surrey because of security cameras and safety especially during the nighttime runs. I'm sure they'll use the camera-equipped vehicles whenver they can. Just remembered that, excellent point will be super useful on the N19 runs and in any case in Surrey in general, what with violent crime being up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Bus Fan Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 BTC will be getting some of the new artics so the 125 could be getting some of the hybrid action, and 135 is definitely getting it - although it's going to turn into a B-Line next year anyway.The 135 already see hybrid buses with the DE60LFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow1331 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 The 135 already see hybrid buses with the DE60LFR. As does the 125 no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormscape Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yeah, 125 uses trippers that appear on other routes in the morning/afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD453T Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was looking at your photos (nice job so far!) and concluded with these. 2: 15004 had a license plate from Arizona (which I found rather interesting) I was driving on the 15 near LA the other day and saw a new XD40 For LACMTA with Arizona plates as well. Why do some of the IC shuttles need to be replaced. I guess Navistar is known for making junk products. The pre '07 (before EPA 2007 standards) motors and buses/trucks (Especially the s-series with the DT466) were solid, reliable, economical motors and vehicles. But the EPA standards kicked in and all the engine manufactures had a heck of a time, and International Navistar made some poor engineering choices and really messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando737 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Regarding the Arizona plates, maybe it has something to do with the fact that Arizona has cheap insurance? At least that's what I've heard and that's why every uhaul has Arizona plates. Just a guess. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northwesterner Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Regarding the Arizona plates, maybe it has something to do with the fact that Arizona has cheap insurance? At least that's what I've heard and that's why every uhaul has Arizona plates. Just a guess. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk It's most likely the physical location of the driveaway company used to deliver the coaches. They are responsible for the transporter registration to get them to their new location. Remember, apportioned plates can be base plated anywhere in the US or Canada that the company has a physical location. For companies with multiple locations, they typically base plate in which ever jurisdiction has the lowest registration fees and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmb3asv141 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Agree, LED interior lights making me have trouble to sleep at night, I still feel bright after closing my eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Concur, Arizona has crazy cheap registration / insurance and low standards for commercial vehicles. That's also why so many rental plates are from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Bus Fan Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 S8009 was not looking so good at the STC the last time I saw it earlier this month (no headlights, depressurized). Haven't seen it since. I can check the OTC on Thursday. I'm not too sure what happened with 8009, but its back in service as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCanGo Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I'm not too sure what happened with 8009, but its back in service as of now. Posted this on Dec 30th in the retirement thread Time to check the BTC. Edit: It's back at the STC, but doesn't look like it will see service. It's been sitting there for 2 weeks after getting repaired (new headlights). Guess they realized the new order won't be seeing service for a bit longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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