smallspy Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 5 hours ago, drum118 said: Better get shots and videos of the ALRV's, since this is their last year being around. Forgot about the 21 that were done up to last another 4 or 5 years already? Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, smallspy said: Forgot about the 21 that were done up to last another 4 or 5 years already? Since it apparently was 100% a cosmetic overhaul, I'm not sure they will last any much longer than non-'refurbished' cars. Sure it's a nuisance to have leaking windows (did the overhaul even fix that?) and tagged interior, but when they can't go out in cold weather, that's a bigger problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, smallspy said: Forgot about the 21 that were done up to last another 4 or 5 years already? Dan Results January 2018's MDBF decreased to 890 kilometres, which continues to be below the target of 6,000 kilometres. Reliability of the ALRV fleet continues to be poor due to the age (+ 35 years) and the condition of the fleet. Inclement weather in January further impacted the reliability of this fleet. Analysis The MDBF from January 2018 decreased marginally from the previous period's (December 2017) reliability figure of 1,177 kilometres. This can be attributed to the continuing poor weather conditions. In these poor conditions, the ALRV experienced significant electrical, pneumatic and sander problems In comparison to January 2017's MDBF of 1,528 kilometres, January 2018's result was also slightly lower. Age, condition of vehicles and more severe weather conditions in 2018 contributed to the decline. Action Plan Minor rebuilds have allowed the ALRVs to continue past their original life cycle. Due to inherent design problems and reliability issues of this vehicle type, the current plan is to accelerate decommissioning of this fleet. The use of these vehicles in limited service will also reduce unreliable service. With the decommissioning of the more problematic vehicles, reduction in service and improving weather condition, staff expect the reliability trend to stabilize. Results The MDBF for the LFLRV fleet decreased in January 2018 to 14,748 kilometres. The 12-month moving average (12 MMAVG) rate for the MDBF increased from the rate of January 2017 to 11,449 kilometers, below the 35,000 kilometer target. Analysis The new LFLRV fleet continues to experience ‘growing pains’ in terms of design and manufacturing quality that are impacting reliability. Challenges with the passenger information system in January 2018 resulted in a decrease in MKBD when compared to December 2017. Action Plan TTC staff is continuing to work with Bombardier and suppliers to resolve design and quality issues. As vehicle delivery continues and technical production issues are resolved, it is expected that this fleet will continue to improve in reliability. Although new vehicles may be below MDBF targeted, they are 6 to 7 times more reliable than our aging fleet. The TTC and our customers welcome the new vehicles as they arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Ed T. said: Since it apparently was 100% a cosmetic overhaul, I'm not sure they will last any much longer than non-'refurbished' cars. Sure it's a nuisance to have leaking windows (did the overhaul even fix that?) and tagged interior, but when they can't go out in cold weather, that's a bigger problem. There were some mechanical aspects of the overhaul, although yes, the continued inability to operate in very cold weather - even after the work is done - is troubling. But at this point, they still intend to keep those 21 for longer than the rest of them to add peak service on King. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 TTC 4470 was spotted in Sudbury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 14 hours ago, drum118 said: Results January 2018's MDBF decreased to 890 kilometres, which continues to be below the target of 6,000 kilometres. Reliability of the ALRV fleet continues to be poor due to the age (+ 35 years) and the condition of the fleet. Inclement weather in January further impacted the reliability of this fleet. Analysis The MDBF from January 2018 decreased marginally from the previous period's (December 2017) reliability figure of 1,177 kilometres. This can be attributed to the continuing poor weather conditions. In these poor conditions, the ALRV experienced significant electrical, pneumatic and sander problems In comparison to January 2017's MDBF of 1,528 kilometres, January 2018's result was also slightly lower. Age, condition of vehicles and more severe weather conditions in 2018 contributed to the decline. Action Plan Minor rebuilds have allowed the ALRVs to continue past their original life cycle. Due to inherent design problems and reliability issues of this vehicle type, the current plan is to accelerate decommissioning of this fleet. The use of these vehicles in limited service will also reduce unreliable service. With the decommissioning of the more problematic vehicles, reduction in service and improving weather condition, staff expect the reliability trend to stabilize. Results The MDBF for the LFLRV fleet decreased in January 2018 to 14,748 kilometres. The 12-month moving average (12 MMAVG) rate for the MDBF increased from the rate of January 2017 to 11,449 kilometers, below the 35,000 kilometer target. Analysis The new LFLRV fleet continues to experience ‘growing pains’ in terms of design and manufacturing quality that are impacting reliability. Challenges with the passenger information system in January 2018 resulted in a decrease in MKBD when compared to December 2017. Action Plan TTC staff is continuing to work with Bombardier and suppliers to resolve design and quality issues. As vehicle delivery continues and technical production issues are resolved, it is expected that this fleet will continue to improve in reliability. Although new vehicles may be below MDBF targeted, they are 6 to 7 times more reliable than our aging fleet. The TTC and our customers welcome the new vehicles as they arrive. You should really use the "quote" button, Dave. Otherwise, people may think that you're capable of posting in a more coherent fashion than you normally do. Dan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramguy Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Dave, drum118, does a phenomenal job keeping us posted inasmuch as English is his second language!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/15/2018 at 12:53 PM, smallspy said: You should really use the "quote" button, Dave. Otherwise, people may think that you're capable of posting in a more coherent fashion than you normally do. Dan I find a lot of his posts informative even if I have to take some time to parse them. They're more informative than posts that say "it's a customized vehicle" when people are wondering why deliveries of our new streetcars are so slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 anyway... this one is for everyone who thinks Bombardier is the only supplier who screws up and TTC is the only customer who does https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/longer-luas-trams-withdrawn-due-to-fault-in-system-1.3429510 (Alstom Citadis units - the new 53m long ones - withdrawn after being put into service because of battery issues) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 4469 is tracking 4467 been in the yard the last 24 hr and looks like its ready for service 4466 still spending time in the service bays. 4468 should enter service next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 Entered Service: 4467 on route 504 King 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 9:07 AM, Shemar said: Entered Service: 4467 on route 504 King It was out yesterday doing test and is currently on 512 in service 4468 could be in service between Tuesday-Thursday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 4466 has finally made it out of the Barns and currently up at Hillcrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 I'm guessing 4466 was towed to Hillcrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Tom1122 said: I'm guessing 4466 was towed to Hillcrest. Quite possibly. Maybe @bus_7246 can confirm what happened. What I can say is that early this morning, both 4418 and 4466 were tracking very close to each other as they made their way from Leslie to Hillcrest. This would be consistent with one being towed by the other. Car 4418 later returned to Leslie on its own. Overall, this was an unusual move to occur on a weekend. The GPS unit on car 4466 seems to have been subsequently deactivated, since it last reported its position (at Hillcrest) at approx. 9:45 AM this morning. Any word on 4470? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 4 hours ago, drum118 said: It was out yesterday doing test and is currently on 512 in service Car 4467 was in service yesterday on 504 King all day until early evening. Today is its second day of service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, ttc rider said: Any word on 4470? It should have arrived in Toronto in the past couple of days. No word if it's at the dock yet, but I figure it should arrive there tomorrow at the latest. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ttc rider said: Car 4467 was in service yesterday on 504 King all day until early evening. Today is its second day of service You sure, as it was only a dot, not the arrow and was on Queen and Bathurst when I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, drum118 said: You sure, as it was only a dot, not the arrow and was on Queen and Bathurst when I saw it. I am positive. What you're describing happens whenever a vehicle goes off route. Since it was at Queen & Bathurst when you checked, the most likely explanation is that it was short-turning at Wolseley Loop, which is a common short-turn location for 504/514. 2 hours ago, smallspy said: It should have arrived in Toronto in the past couple of days. No word if it's at the dock yet, but I figure it should arrive there tomorrow at the latest. Dan Thank you for the info. Now I am seeing that there is a short post on UT by someone reporting to have spotted a Flexity at Hillcrest yesterday (i.e. Saturday), likely on the flatcar and not offloaded yet, since it was spotted from Dupont. If that report is correct, that car must be 4470. What would be interesting to know is the status of 4466 and why it was sent up to Hillcrest this morning (and apparently not under its own power), without undergoing any on-street testing since it arrived on Feb. 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmenard-cc Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 4466 was the one damaged en route if I remember correctly... it could be that the damage was more extensive than they assessed and Bombardier is taking it back for more extensive repairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 4466 is currently tracking going south on Bathurst Street. Not sure what is pushing the Flexity or if it's being driven. Edited March 19, 2018 by Shemar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Shemar said: 4466 is currently tracking going south on Bathurst Street. It's not. That is a GPS error since it has been reporting the same location at Bathurst & Dundas for a few hours now - a practical impossibility. That's why these online tracking systems should not be taken as absolute. It is most likely still at Hillcrest. 4 hours ago, jmenard-cc said: 4466 was the one damaged en route if I remember correctly... That is correct. 4 hours ago, jmenard-cc said: it could be that the damage was more extensive than they assessed and Bombardier is taking it back for more extensive repairs. That is a possibility, especially since it appears 4470 has been offloaded this morning, so there is a flatcar available that can be used to send 4466 back. But this is speculative in the absence of a knowledgeable source to confirm what is happening. In other news, car 4425 made its way to Hillcrest early this morning and it's been sitting there since about 9 am. If past experience is any indication, I am willing to bet it is going to return this evening to Leslie with car 4470 in tow, probably after the end of the evening rush hour to avoid the worst traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Car 4425 has just left Hillcrest going south on Bathurst. If anybody happens to run into it as it makes its way to Leslie via Bathurst and Queen in the next hour or so, we may able to confirm if in fact it is towing 4470 down to Leslie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 4468 is in service on 504. Only 16 days to get it into service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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