Vancouver: T-Comm "E-Sightings"

[Express691]

16 minutes ago, Brando737 said:

Every sheet there seems to be more and more 351's and 601's interlined with buses on local runs.  Could be for the cameras on the late night trips or Orion's being sent to PTC and STC for added service on suburban runs.

Last time I checked, there was no net change in the Orions - it's more like they traded garages to organize the fleet. 

This sheet, however, there seems to be a bunch of Morning south Delta runs interlining with 480s.

[jmward]

4 hours ago, Express691 said:

Last time I checked, there was no net change in the Orions - it's more like they traded garages to organize the fleet. 

This sheet, however, there seems to be a bunch of Morning south Delta runs interlining with 480s.

There have always been late night NFI runs on the 601, although previously I would see the weekday final trips come off a 403 and the weekend ones remain orion. Earlier this year (Jan sheet?) there was also a mid-day into evening peak  601/606/311 block that was always NFI, and that one's gone. I'd say the am runs sort of balance that out, so it's roughly even.

Curiously, there would sometimes be a 403 nb trip done by an orion late at night on weekends, I don't know if that one's still around. 

[Express691]

41 minutes ago, jmward said:

Curiously, there would sometimes be a 403 nb trip done by an orion late at night on weekends, I don't know if that one's still around. 

I dont think there is.

What im wondering now is why theres no NFI counterpart on line 351. When it happens on 351 its bound to happen on the 601.

[Jeffrey Ngai]

Another interesting block: 555 interlined with 155 Special (done by 9209 a few days ago and other Orions as well)-

http://tcomm.bustrainferry.com/mobile/block/1500782

[Express691]

Here's one consistep of trippers on the 403 and ends with a 5.20 departure on the 311

http://tcomm.bustrainferry.com/mobile/bus?busId=7419

[Marlow1331]

http://tcomm.bustrainferry.com/mobile/bus/14041

 

14041 had appeared on the 301 a few days ago. Unnoticed it seems. But clearly, as an extra tripper, OT of some sort as it seems to have came off a 410

[Brando737]

Odd.  It finished it's day at 22nd St Stn as a 100 at 2036 and that 301 was scheduled at Hwy 91 and Westminster Hwy at 2059.  The timing just doesn't make any sense though.  Last seen on that 301 at 2050 then 2234 on the next block.  Curious if it was a glitch?  

[UpLift Vancouver]

That is definitely a computer glitch. I had 9218 on that same block on my way home last night.

[Dennis]

 

On 9/29/2016 at 3:33 PM, Marlow1331 said:

http://tcomm.bustrainferry.com/mobile/bus/14041

14041 had appeared on the 301 a few days ago. Unnoticed it seems. But clearly, as an extra tripper, OT of some sort as it seems to have came off a 410

 

On 9/29/2016 at 4:39 PM, Brando737 said:

Odd.  It finished it's day at 22nd St Stn as a 100 at 2036 and that 301 was scheduled at Hwy 91 and Westminster Hwy at 2059.  The timing just doesn't make any sense though.  Last seen on that 301 at 2050 then 2234 on the next block.  Curious if it was a glitch?  

Could it be that the driver made a mistake punching in another run, or was testing something, and then T-Comm picked it the other run?

Also, if you see any potential issues with T-Comm, please let me know so I can look into it. Thanks.

There is already a known issue where after 9:30pm buses may be wrongly assigned an old trip for a short period of time, making many of them look late but in actual fact they are on time (problem with TransLink's feed, not on my end).  I'm not sure if it has been fixed yet - hopefully it is or will be soon.

[Jasoncouver transit system]

What day do the 41 school special which uses the d60lf or d60LFR or De60lf 

I just want to know the it schedule 

[Express691]

4 hours ago, Jasoncouver transit system said:

What day do the 41 school special which uses the d60lf or d60LFR or De60lf 

I just want to know the it schedule 

It's only the 3.09pm departure from Dunbar Loop. Not listed in the print schedules

Good luck

[MCW Metrobus]

On 9/30/2016 at 5:56 PM, Dennis said:

Could it be that the driver made a mistake punching in another run, or was testing something, and then T-Comm picked it the other run?

I tried that once. I couldn't get it to work.

A couple of times in the summer when I brought my Orion back to RTC for the night I logged in as a 301 block just to see if it would show up on T-Comm, with the idea of trying to convince gullible people here that the bus had been transferred to STC. Alas, my plan failed, because it didn't show up.

[iliketrains]

The new west van buses show up as 1660x on tcomm 

[Express691]

Bookouts:

XD40:

16102 (311, 351, 601)

16103 (351, 602) am trippers

16104 (311, 351, 601, 602, 604, 606, 608) 

16106 (311, 351, 352, 601, 602, 608)

16109 (351, 352, 601, 602, 603, 604)

16112 (351, 601, 603, 606) doesnt serve the mall today

16113 (311, 351, 601, 602, 603, 604)

16115 (straight 351s)

16117 (straight 351s)

16118 (601, 602, 604)

16126 (351, 601)

16135 (311, 351, 352, 601, 602, 603)

Orion V:

9240, 56, 70 - straight 405s

9278, 9238 - 2 trips on the 32

[Dennis]

On 03/10/2016 at 10:49 PM, MCW Metrobus said:

I tried that once. I couldn't get it to work.

A couple of times in the summer when I brought my Orion back to RTC for the night I logged in as a 301 block just to see if it would show up on T-Comm, with the idea of trying to convince gullible people here that the bus had been transferred to STC. Alas, my plan failed, because it didn't show up.

How long were you logged in for?  I don't really know what your TMAC interface looks like but were you logged into a particular trip?

And did you open your doors after you logged in?

[jmward]

18 hours ago, Express691 said:

Bookouts:

XD40:

*snip*

I ended up on 4 of those  (09, 12, 13, 35) during my commute and trip to the new mall; lots of chatter about how new the busses were and also how much seating they lacked.

On the flipside,  one tourist kept going on about how nice of a bus 9247 was:  Most of us transit riders here in South delta don't really know how nice we have it.

I also learned that there is fixed standee limit on the Orions (I think the driver said it's 11 max, which I've seen plenty). Unlike the low floors, they aren't supposed to cram as many of us in as the red line will let.

Crazy day for the 601s overall.

[GORDOOM]

4 hours ago, jmward said:

I also learned that there is fixed standee limit on the Orions (I think the driver said it's 11 max, which I've seen plenty). Unlike the low floors, they aren't supposed to cram as many of us in as the red line will let.

Which is interesting, given that high-floors (in urban configuration) actually have slightly higher capacity than low-floors... is it emergency evac regs? Different suspension for suburban vs. urban configurations? Something else?

[Express691]

1 hour ago, GORDOOM said:

Which is interesting, given that high-floors (in urban configuration) actually have slightly higher capacity than low-floors... is it emergency evac regs? Different suspension for suburban vs. urban configurations? Something else?

From what I know Its 60 people on the Orions and 77 on New Flyers. 

Anyways, I guess im chasing down Orions downtown today...

[GORDOOM]

1 hour ago, Express691 said:

From what I know Its 60 people on the Orions and 77 on New Flyers. 

Sounds about right, but why is the max passenger count on the Orion V Suburbans so low?

[Express691]

22 minutes ago, GORDOOM said:

Sounds about right, but why is the max passenger count on the Orion V Suburbans so low?

I know for one theres no back door area to squeeze passengers

[Xcelsior Bus Fan]

9 hours ago, GORDOOM said:

Sounds about right, but why is the max passenger count on the Orion V Suburbans so low?

Must be due to the added weight from the A/C unit, as CNG buses also carry less if i recall due to added weight from the CNG tanks

[TranslinkKid]

14 hours ago, GORDOOM said:

Which is interesting, given that high-floors (in urban configuration) actually have slightly higher capacity than low-floors... is it emergency evac regs? Different suspension for suburban vs. urban configurations? Something else?

I'm just gonna take a wild guess on this. I think the reason high floors have a lower max capacity is so the bus can be evacuated easily. If there were more people onboard and the bus had to be evacuated, it would take longer because of the amount of people.

1 hour ago, Xcelsior Bus Fan said:

Must be due to the added weight from the A/C unit, as CNG buses also carry less if i recall due to added weight from the CNG tanks

C40LFR's have a max cap of 77(same as D40LF's) & XN40's have a max cap of 73.

[MCW Metrobus]

And XD40s and XN40s (and XDE60s) also have A/C... sooo....

[northwesterner]

10 minutes ago, TranslinkKid said:

I'm just gonna take a wild guess on this. I think the reason high floors have a lower max capacity is so the bus can be evacuated easily. If there were more people onboard and the bus had to be evacuated, it would take longer because of the amount of people.

C40LFR's have a max cap of 77(same as D40LF's) & XN40's have a max cap of 73.

It is not based on evacuation speeds. This is not an airplane.

In B.C. these limits are based on the vehicles GVWR. 

 

No other jurisdiction in North America ( that I'm aware of) requires placarded max capacity ratings for buses. However, if you're put on a scale with a crush load and found overweight, you could be ticketed. In practice, transit vehicles are never pulled over for such things.

[Mountie]

1 hour ago, Xcelsior Bus Fan said:

...CNG buses also carry less if i recall due to added weight from the CNG tanks

TransLink provides the following PDF:

http://www.translink.ca/-/media/Documents/plans_and_projects/expansion_upgrades/Fleet Pictorial.pdf

If you're comparing a CNG to a diesel, here you go. According to the PDF, the gross vehicle weight rating on the C40LFR and D40LFR are 19,404 and 19,290 kilograms, respectively. Both buses carry a maximum capacity of 77 passengers. So unless you can cite your claim to a good source, the CNG bus is on par to the diesel when it comes to passenger capacity.

Unless you're referring to the Orion as a CNG bus...

11 hours ago, GORDOOM said:

Sounds about right, but why is the max passenger count on the Orion V Suburbans so low?

Probably in place to not exceed the 18,146kg GVWR on the Orion.

EDIT: Grammar, and beat me by a hair, good sir!

4 minutes ago, northwesterner said:

It is not based on evacuation speeds. This is not an airplane.

In B.C. these limits are based on the vehicles GVWR.