Flxible Metro VINs

[Benjamin]

http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27N_VINs%27

Here's one addition for you to add to the above link:

VIN: 1GF5ANPK0ND103378

Model: 40102-6C

Build date: 4/1992

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 1701 (aka the "Art bus")

VIN breakdown:

1: made in the U.S.A.

G: Flxible Corporation

F: Flxible transit bus

5: Flxible Metro series (1983-96)

A: 40" x 102" body length/width

N: 2 doors, wheelchair lifts, two wheelchair spaces, no A/C

P: Cummins L10-280E diesel engine (49 states)

K: Compressed air brake, drum type, no ABS, rear axle spring parking brake

0: check digit

N: 1992 model year

D: assembled in Delaware, OH

103378: serial number

~Ben

Edited March 4, 2014 by Benjamin

[Benjamin]

Some more:

VIN: 1GF5ANEK5JD099390

Model: 40102-6C

Engine: Cummins LTA10-270B (49 state) (code "E")

Build date: 4/1988 (model year code "J")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 500

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27J_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5ANEK5KD100426

Model: 40102-6C

Engine: Cummins LTA10-270B (49 state) (code "E")

Build date: 4/1989 (model year code "K")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 550

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27K_VINs%27'>http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27K_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5ANEK8KD100694

Model: 40102-6C

Engine: Cummins LTA10-270B (49 state) (code "E")

Build date: 8/1989 (model year code "K")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 592

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27K_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5FNPK9ND103476

Model: 30102-6C

Engine: Cummins L10-280E (49 state) (code "P")

Build date: 6/1992 (model year code "N")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 1901

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27N_VINs%27'>http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27N_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5ANXKXPD103486

Model: 40102-6C (LNG)

Engine: Cummins GLTA10-240 (LNG) (code "X")

Build date: 9/1993 (model year code "P")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 1809

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27P_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5ANPK5ND103506

Model: 40102-6C

Engine: Cummins L10-280E (code "P")

Build date: 5/1992 (model year code "N")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 1779

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27N_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5ANZK0RD105019

Model: 40102-6M

Engine: Cummins M11-280E (code "Z")

Build date: 8/1994 (model year code "R")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 1817

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27R_VINs%27'>http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27R_VINs%27

VIN: 1GF5ANVK6RD105046

Model: 40102-4D

Engine: Detroit Diesel Series 50 (code "V")

Build date: 8/1994 (model year code "R")

Operator: Tri-Met (OR)

Unit number: 1844

For Wiki page: http://cptdb.ca/wiki...ro_%27R_VINs%27

I know the engine codes (digit 7 in VIN) on all the Flxibles are correct for Tri-Met, but it's the seating/wheelchair spaces and air brake type (digits 6 and 8 in VIN respectively) that are to be determined. What I mean is I am unsure if Tri-Met specified the same attributes for the seating/wheelchair and brakes on all these models from 1988-89 and 1992-94, but what I do know is that none of Tri-Met's Flxible Metros have air conditioning, so the body type code (digit 5) I mention may be more or less correct.

~Ben

Edited March 4, 2014 by Benjamin

[Cappy]

It's done, however I have a couple of things to mention:

• I've tried to check the VINs with the "N" body type for 550-637 and 1817-1853 to see if any of them have/had a vehicle record, but none popped up. However, all of them have records with the "C" body type in their VINs, which means those buses were originally built with air conditioners before they were eventually removed.
  
• I'm unable to find the correct VINs for 1809-1816. I've tried a combination of VIN digits of "N," "C," and "T" body types and all brake systems and not a single one appeared to have a vehicle record. Therefore, I only posted the last 8 digits of their VINs.
  

[Benjamin]

It's done, however I have a couple of things to mention:

• I've tried to check the VINs with the "N" body type for 550-637 and 1817-1853 to see if any of them have/had a vehicle record, but none popped up. However, all of them have records with the "C" body type in their VINs, which means those buses were originally built with air conditioners before they were eventually removed.

   

• I'm unable to find the correct VINs for 1809-1816. I've tried a combination of VIN digits of "N," "C," and "T" body types and all brake systems and not a single one appeared to have a vehicle record. Therefore, I only posted the last 8 digits of their VINs.

   

Thank you!

I am sure someone else might have the correct information about all of these units (esp. for 550-637 and 1809-1816). Only a look at the VIN plates inside the buses will really help us on this. Too bad the only Flxibles TriMet has at present are the 1700s and 1900s (their 1817 series was retired just last September).

~Ben

Edited March 7, 2014 by Benjamin

[Benjamin]

Some more... from Folsom Stage Lines of Folsom, CA:

1GF5EBCK5MD101505 - 1991 Flxible Metro "B" 30096-6C no. 60

1GF5EBCK7MD101506 - 1991 Flxible Metro "B" 30096-6C no. 130

Both use the California-mandated version of the Cummins LTA10-240B engine (code "C" in digit 7). The OMOT website erroneously gives these serial numbers as LD101505-LD101506 and also as being delivered in February 1990.

~Ben

Edited March 12, 2014 by Benjamin

[Benjamin]

On second thought, I also want to think that the 1993 Flxible Metro "D" LNG buses Tri-Met had might originally have been spec'd with an HVAC unit but, like the 1994 deliveries that followed (1817-1843 and 1844-1853), had the device removed before entering service.

Therefore, I want to think these are actually the correct VIN numbers for these eight buses:

1809: 1GF5ACXK4PD103486

1810: 1GF5ACXK6PD103487

1811: 1GF5ACXK8PD103488

1812: 1GF5ACXKXPD103489

1813: 1GF5ACXK6PD103490

1814: 1GF5ACXK8PD103491

1815: 1GF5ACXKXPD103492

1816: 1GF5ACXK1PD103493

~Ben

Edited March 23, 2014 by Benjamin

[Benjamin]

It's done, however I have a couple of things to mention:

• I've tried to check the VINs with the "N" body type for 550-637 and 1817-1853 to see if any of them have/had a vehicle record, but none popped up. However, all of them have records with the "C" body type in their VINs, which means those buses were originally built with air conditioners before they were eventually removed.
• I'm unable to find the correct VINs for 1809-1816. I've tried a combination of VIN digits of "N," "C," and "T" body types and all brake systems and not a single one appeared to have a vehicle record. Therefore, I only posted the last 8 digits of their VINs.

I was also going to update my original VIN theory for units 1701-1808 and 1901-1910, because even these buses originally had the HVAC installed, but were subsequently removed before entering service. Thus, I am going to correct my original VIN numbers accordingly.

Source: http://trimetrider.blogspot.com/2011/12/that-other-trimet-geek-activists.html

(the interior for bus no. 1762 has that sticker suggesting HVAC was there initially)

~Ben

[Stalwart23]

On 3/6/2014 at 8:33 PM, Cappy said:

It's done, however I have a couple of things to mention:

• I've tried to check the VINs with the "N" body type for 550-637 and 1817-1853 to see if any of them have/had a vehicle record, but none popped up. However, all of them have records with the "C" body type in their VINs, which means those buses were originally built with air conditioners before they were eventually removed.
• I'm unable to find the correct VINs for 1809-1816. I've tried a combination of VIN digits of "N," "C," and "T" body types and all brake systems and not a single one appeared to have a vehicle record. Therefore, I only posted the last 8 digits of their VINs.

If your looking for the correct VINs for Tri-Met 1809-1816, I have as follows:

1809: 1GF5ANXKXPD103486

1810: 1GF5ANXK1PD103487

1811: 1GF5ANXK3PD103488

1813: 1GF5ANXK1PD103490

1814: 1GF5ANXK3PD103491

1815: 1GF5ANXK5PD103492

1816: 1GF5ANXK7PD103493

 

Nolan Kolmel, Secretary

Motor Bus Society

[Cappy]

13 minutes ago, Stalwart23 said:

If your looking for the correct VINs for Tri-Met 1809-1816, I have as follows:

1809: 1GF5ANXKXPD103486

1810: 1GF5ANXK1PD103487

1811: 1GF5ANXK3PD103488

1813: 1GF5ANXK1PD103490

1814: 1GF5ANXK3PD103491

1815: 1GF5ANXK5PD103492

1816: 1GF5ANXK7PD103493

Yup, those are the ones.  I didn't think of checking the VINs with the "X" engine code.  They've been added.

[Benjamin]

And 1817-1843 would have the "Z" engine code (Cummins M11-280E).

~Ben