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1 hour ago, Border City Transit said:

Any idea of when Novas are expected in Ann Arbor?

No signs of 'em anywhere... like TheRide wants to pretend it's not happening and they'll be 100% Gillig forever and ever.

 

 

They were supposed to deliver the pre-production unit for display in July. Then the pandemic happened... did NOVA suspend production in Plattsburgh is the question...

On 9/29/2020 at 6:55 PM, chasbo2 said:

You know AATA should consider looking at getting 60 ft style buses for it's Washtenaw route. Since it's clearly the most popular route in city and there are nearly 10 buses that ran during rush hour (before COVID) on the route. 

They won’t go there probably. There’s substantial doubt about them as a going concern past 2022.

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On 12/9/2019 at 1:48 PM, Orion6025 said:

Jeez that's a shame, no more detroits... Thanks guys

I feel like cummins has become a monopoly over the public transportation market with no other competitors. Maybe the DD5 or DD8 will be used in public transit buses. They already have them in school buses

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On 12/8/2019 at 5:06 PM, Border City Transit said:

I think so.

As recently as this summer, quite a few were hanging out in a city-owned lot on S Industrial Hwy, about a half-mile north of TheRide HQ.

They still had decals, numbers and fareboxes -- so maybe they were in ready-reserve.

At last check, only two or three were still there and they were totally stripped down. Unless there's a straggler or two under the roof at 2700, the end has likely arrived for the 411-429 batch. Won't miss 'em.

 

 

As of 5/9/21 there are still a couple there. 417, 424, 444, 448, 456, and ARide 642-644 are sitting around at 2000 S Industrial. All TheRide branding has been removed from the two 2003 units, but the others appear to be intact. 444 being there leads me to believe they've retired the last of the 2007 BRTs. A bunch more of the BRTs seem to have been at this location the last time Google did Street View on S Industrial.

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I had no luck spotting any Novas in the wild on Sunday. Wondering if they're in service and I was just unlucky, or if they've yet to enter service.

On 10/5/2020 at 10:29 PM, chasbo2 said:

I feel like cummins has become a monopoly over the public transportation market with no other competitors. Maybe the DD5 or DD8 will be used in public transit buses. They already have them in school buses

My understanding is that Daimler wants to keep Detroit Diesel in Daimler vehicles only, which restricts it to Thomas for our market. I agree though, it'd be nice if Cummins weren't essentially the only choice for buses nowadays.

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On 5/11/2021 at 4:13 AM, dtwtransit said:

I had no luck spotting any Novas in the wild on Sunday. Wondering if they're in service and I was just unlucky, or if they've yet to enter service.

You're not alone!

I've passed through A2 area twice in the past month or so -- nothing but Gilligs.

I also check the bus tracker at theride.org semi-regularly -- literally have not seen a single Nova in service (could it be that they're just not showing up on tracker? Sometimes happens with new buses of any type...)

At this point, I pretty much think TheRide returned the buses to Nova and said, "um, can you make these Gilligs?"

Also, TheRide is weirdly negative about these "replacement buses" in their public materials. Like, why are you referring to them "replacement buses"? That makes them seem like scabs... substandard compromises for the "real thing". Why not call them new buses? That's what they are -- and that's way more positive!

The Novas boast multiple new/improved features which customers will notice. I cannot figure out why TheRide is hiding these benefits. The whole thing... is like they're ashamed to not be buying more Gilligs.

Get with it, TheRide!

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On 5/12/2021 at 11:09 AM, Border City Transit said:

You're not alone!

I've passed through A2 area twice in the past month or so -- nothing but Gilligs.

I also check the bus tracker at theride.org semi-regularly -- literally have not seen a single Nova in service (could it be that they're just not showing up on tracker? Sometimes happens with new buses of any type...)

At this point, I pretty much think TheRide returned the buses to Nova and said, "um, can you make these Gilligs?"

Also, TheRide is weirdly negative about these "replacement buses" in their public materials. Like, why are you referring to them "replacement buses"? That makes them seem like scabs... substandard compromises for the "real thing". Why not call them new buses? That's what they are -- and that's way more positive!

The Novas boast multiple new/improved features which customers will notice. I cannot figure out why TheRide is hiding these benefits. The whole thing... is like they're ashamed to not be buying more Gilligs.

Get with it, TheRide!

That never occured to me but you're right about the wording. I was pretty excited to finally get some non-Tunnel Novas in the area (a break from the Gilligs) so I really hope they enter service soon. I suppose it could be due to decreased demand (since that's the reason I heard for retiring the 2007 BRTs).

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I am now working as an Intern at AATA and what I can tell you is they only have the prototype for the new NovaBus. Everything else is still Gillig. Nobody in my department is back in the office yet but I am quite optimistic as vaccines continue to move forward.

Personally I don't mind Gillig although the buses they make nowadays are not the same as they were twenty years ago and I think theride should've went with New Flyer instead of Nova if they were still making the restyled model. 

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At long last, found at Nova in service on the tracker:

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Tue Aug 17 at 12:20pm.

Notice that it's vehicle # 2007, whereas previous reports state that # 2000 is the only Nova on site. Does this mean that all eight of the "2020" units are now active?

Hopefully will make it to A2 soon to see what's up...

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On 8/17/2021 at 12:27 PM, Border City Transit said:

At long last, found at Nova in service on the tracker:

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Tue Aug 17 at 12:20pm.

Notice that it's vehicle # 2007, whereas previous reports state that # 2000 is the only Nova on site. Does this mean that all eight of the "2020" units are now active?

Hopefully will make it to A2 soon to see what's up...

All 8 of the 2020 Nova’s are now active. 

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