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1 hour ago, Shaun said:

Got to be kidding me right?

Nope. R1 isn’t an assigned run daily so all R1 coverage needs to be pulled from either routes in service, operators on spareboard (which then leaves regular runs vulnerable to no-shows) and overtime. 
 

if it was a planned closure then there wouldn’t be any issues with coverage but operators can’t be forced to work days off on short notice. 

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On 1/6/2023 at 2:57 PM, JCL said:

This hasn't been reported, but I'm sure everybody is aware of this by now. Because of freezing rain, the LRT service has been disrupted between Tremblay and uOttawa (I won't bother posting links to news article). 

According to the press conference just moments ago, they are only running 6 double trains: 2 double trains between Tunney's Pasture and uOttawa with a frequency of 15 minutes, and 4 double trains between Tremblay and Blair with a frequency of 5 to 6 minutes

R1 bus service operating between Rideau and St. Laurent. 

Is there still a 15-minute headway between trains on the west end of the line? That must be painful during rush hour!

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3 hours ago, Chris_the_traveller said:

Is there still a 15-minute headway between trains on the west end of the line? That must be painful during rush hour!

No. They have ramped it up to 5 minute frequency between UOttawa and Tunney's segment during the peak period from the last update. 

4 trains in the west segment (Tunney's to UOttawa) and 4 in the east segment (Tremblay to Blair). 

Trying to catch R1 is a lot worse. Especially if not starting at the terminus stations Rideau or Blair, it will be a pretty long wait reading the reports that some buses are at capacity and unable to accommodate more passengers if waiting in-between. Buses are being redirected from regular runs to support the bus replacement shuttle.

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On 1/10/2023 at 9:10 PM, Shaun said:

And did anyone get fired for incompetence?

It's not as easy as you think. Because of the contract arrangement, the incompetence is technically on RTG. As long as OC had informed (and later, enforced) the terms of the contract, they've done their job. This is one of the risk-offloading aspects of P3s that make it attractive for governments, but are bad for the public interest.

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1 hour ago, MCIBUS said:

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the O-Train is more quite when pulling into the Station? I recall during the summer it was way more noise? I'm not sure if the weather has anything to do with it or not?

I believe there are more TSRs in place so the trains are going slower on the whole route 

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10 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the O-Train is more quite when pulling into the Station? I recall during the summer it was way more noise? I'm not sure if the weather has anything to do with it or not?

Not so much quieter as slower. Lyon is my nearest station; most WB trains pull in very slowly, but EB trains pull in at about normal speed.

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6 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

when does the first train at Hurdman arrive going towards Tunney's on Saturday? I tried looking on OC web sight but it's not listed gorsd Snowbus then Line 2 Line 1 is missing from the drop down for routes?

6 am.

Source: https://www.octranspo.com/en/plan-your-trip/schedules-maps/?sched-lang=en&date=20230211&rte=1

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Line 1
Routes: 1 O-Train
Date effective: February 10, 2023

Line 1: R1 bus service implemented/running between St-Laurent and Rideau due to OCS issue. No trains between St-Laurent and Rideau. Trains operating Blair—Tremblay and Tunney's Pasture—Rideau. Updates to follow.

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1 hour ago, Loud-Invero said:

Line 1
Routes: 1 O-Train
Date effective: February 10, 2023

Line 1: R1 bus service implemented/running between St-Laurent and Rideau due to OCS issue. No trains between St-Laurent and Rideau. Trains operating Blair—Tremblay and Tunney's Pasture—Rideau. Updates to follow.

Update From Octranspo.

 

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Routes: 1 O-Train

Date effective: February 10, 2023

Line 1: Until further notice, train service running from Tunney's Pasture to Blair.  All service at Hurdman, Lees, and uOttawa at the eastbound platforms only due to a technical issue.  Updates to follow.

 

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-ottawas-lrt-didnt-go-wrong-it-started-wrong/

According to this article in the globe part of the failure with the LRT was because the city did not oversee the project and left it up to the third party to manage the project. 

The trains selected had never been used in Canada and were not properly tested in accordance with the weather conditions in Ottawa. 

But even if the city did oversee the project they would have lacked the technical expertise to complete such a project. And I guess that's why you end up with a half ass system. 

Could they not have selected flexities for this project? Yes there were welding and delivery issues but other than that they operate in a cold harsh climate in Toronto and on the ION system and is a proven platform. The shorter cars would mean less stress on the wheels and bearings. 

With that said we are using the same cars on Finch. Is that going to be a problem? But given that our winters are not as harsh and that we don't have any tight curves I would think we are safe.  Given that they bumped up the heat in the cab and tweeked the software to work better icy conditions.  However seeing how much we lack any cold weather this winter may be a sign that in the next 20 years we may no longer see snow in our cities, at least in Toronto.

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13 hours ago, Shaun said:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-ottawas-lrt-didnt-go-wrong-it-started-wrong/

According to this article in the globe part of the failure with the LRT was because the city did not oversee the project and left it up to the third party to manage the project. 

The trains selected had never been used in Canada and were not properly tested in accordance with the weather conditions in Ottawa. 

But even if the city did oversee the project they would have lacked the technical expertise to complete such a project. And I guess that's why you end up with a half ass system. 

Could they not have selected flexities for this project? Yes there were welding and delivery issues but other than that they operate in a cold harsh climate in Toronto and on the ION system and is a proven platform. The shorter cars would mean less stress on the wheels and bearings. 

With that said we are using the same cars on Finch. Is that going to be a problem? But given that our winters are not as harsh and that we don't have any tight curves I would think we are safe.  Given that they bumped up the heat in the cab and tweeked the software to work better icy conditions.  However seeing how much we lack any cold weather this winter may be a sign that in the next 20 years we may no longer see snow in our cities, at least in Toronto.

The Trains weren't even made yet when we selected them, the Citadis Spirit was based on the Citadis, but was completely new. Bombardier wasn't making the Flexity when the contract was created, and only Siemens and Alstom bid, Siemens originall won before O'Brien axed the entire plan.

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