Downsview 108 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 32 minutes ago, 6254 said: IIRC, 8094-8096 were at Danforth until final retirement. 8086 used to be at Malvern before going to Eglinton. 8068 - Malvern -> Birchmount -> Arrow 8075, 8111 - Eglinton -> Malvern . Come to think of it, you're right about 8086. Keep confusing it with 8068. 1 hour ago, FlyerD901 said: Danforth had GMs up until 1996 for sure, I rode them on Pape and Don Mills. So around 1997ish to 2000 there was no GMs. But they had 8096 which were the oldest at the time at Danforth. Right, thanks. I think the first GM to return was 8685. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 I'm not sure which came back first, when the GMs came back they were in the new colours. I don't remember any of them in the old colours, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsview 108 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 11 hours ago, FlyerD901 said: I'm not sure which came back first, when the GMs came back they were in the new colours. I don't remember any of them in the old colours, but I could be wrong. Yeah, the only fishbowls in the old colours at the time were 8051 and 8058. 8685 was in the new scheme. Saw it on an Orion III charter that made a stop at Danforth Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 On 5/15/2016 at 8:00 PM, FlyerD901 said: The picture looks like it was taken north of summerhill station Yes, Yonge at Woodlawn. The same bus a minute earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 On May 15, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Flyer E902 said: So whats the status of 2252 and 2444? Are they inside the hillcrest shops getting rebuild with their 6V71N getting rebuild also? When I hear anything, believe me this is the first place I'll put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8792 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 On 5/14/2016 at 9:52 PM, RevEleven said: 8111 (Malvern-last active bus with water bumper Did the TTC order a consecutive batch of Fishbowls with water bumpers or were they completely random or retrofits? In my many trips to Toronto during that era, I don't seem to recall any consistent numbering (i.e. a batch). OC Transpo did not have any of these on their GMs, in fact only a very few had black rubber bumpers (IIRC mostly some of the 76XXs + 7715 & 1 74XX (7405 seems to ring a bell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I have a photocopy of a coupler article from 1969(?) when the first order of TTC buses with waterbumpers was ordered. As a side note, when I first became really observant in my hobby, I was always under the impression only "large" cities had buses with water bumpers (this was in the days before the internet, so my research was limited) so imagine my surprise when I went to Durham College in fall 1992, and saw an Oshawa Transit bus with waterbumpers! (wish I had been taking more photo's then). Since then of course I have given up my attempts to catalogue and keep a list transit systems in the US and Canada that had Fishbowls with waterbumpers, so many agencies seemed to have. I heard of a uk bus operator Mersyside possibly that had waterbumpers as and experiment on one of it's Daimler Fleetlines, but have never seen it. Have seen a few Fleetlines with the Firestone safety bumpers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Just a random factoid: they actually had salt water brine, or failing that engine coolant (ethylene glycol/ water mix) in the bumpers. ice blocks encased in rubber during the winter would negate any benifits the water bumper had, for obvious reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16 McCowan Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Not my pictures, but #2252 is undergoing restoration at Hillcrest. Photos are by Marcus Danchuck, who is an TTC employee. Lex R. supplied these pictures. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Should be getting 8058's interior. 2 speed vh-9 powertrain? Probably not. Those things were leaky and unreliable even back in the day. better to keep the v730 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 17 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: Should be getting 8058's interior. 2 speed vh-9 powertrain? Probably not. Those things were leaky and unreliable even back in the day. better to keep the v730 so 8058 will be used for parts only but won't be restored? So sad................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, Cimon8000 said: so 8058 will be used for parts only but won't be restored? So sad................ I thought Bus_medic already said the frame has corroded too far beyond usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Cimon8000 said: so 8058 will be used for parts only but won't be restored? So sad................ Can't save every bus. At least TTC is restoring its two New Looks and 8058's parts are being donated to a worthy cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 34 minutes ago, RailBus63 said: Can't save every bus. At least TTC is restoring its two New Looks and 8058's parts are being donated to a worthy cause. true, at least they are saving one now 1 hour ago, Xtrazsteve said: I thought Bus_medic already said the frame has corroded too far beyond usable. O i think i missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 This is a unique question to retrofit/restoration of 2252: will this bus get the rollsign off of 8058? Or retain its Luminator flipdot destination sign? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusFanForever Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 4 hours ago, bus_7246 said: This is a unique question to retrofit/restoration of 2252: will this bus get the rollsign off of 8058? Or retain its Luminator flipdot destination sign? Personally, I think using the roll sign would make more sense if they are making an 8058 clone. Those flip dots were old, faded and barely working by the end and were usually repaired temporarily with a good shake or a smack to the rear. I know they saved quite a few during decommissioning for parts but I doubt they are in very good shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 14 hours ago, bus_7246 said: This is a unique question to retrofit/restoration of 2252: will this bus get the rollsign off of 8058? Or retain its Luminator flipdot destination sign? i wish the bus could be painted back to the CLRV scheme back when the bus was brand new, and re-fleeted back to #8752, and of course with the rollsign installed back from 8058 as well to make it perfect, if this is not too much request. On 6/8/2016 at 8:00 PM, 21 Brimley said: Not my pictures, but #2252 is undergoing restoration at Hillcrest. Photos are by Marcus Danchuck, who is an TTC employee. Lex R. supplied these pictures. i can't wait for a charter on this bus after restoration is completed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 On June 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Cimon8000 said: so 8058 will be used for parts only but won't be restored? So sad................ Try to keep up. On June 10, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Cimon8000 said: i wish the bus could be painted back to the CLRV scheme back when the bus was brand new, and re-fleeted back to #8752, and of course with the rollsign installed back from 8058 as well to make it perfect, if this is not too much request. i can't wait for a charter on this bus after restoration is completed! And try to stay out of traffic this time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16 McCowan Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Another sets of photos by M. Danchuck, provided by Lex R. #2252/#8752 stripped for restoration work and the inside flooring undergoing major work with the seats to be installed and livery painted later. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 14 hours ago, 21 Brimley said: Another sets of photos by M. Danchuck, provided by Lex R. #2252/#8752 stripped for restoration work and the inside flooring undergoing major work with the seats to be installed and livery painted later. Nice, thank you for sharing and please keep us updated on this, thanks again~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCNLFBT Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I hope the restoration rebuild of 2252 will be completed by September's Harvey & Duncan Shop Open House, if the event is happening. If it's not completed, I would like to get a photo of 2252 of the rebuild during the open house. Edited June 16, 2016 by ttc2252 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, ttc2252 said: I hope the restoration rebuild of 2252 will be completed by September's Harvey & Duncan Shop Open House, if the event is happening. If it's not completed, I would like to get a photo of 2252 of the rebuild during the open house. 3 months would be done for 100% sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusFanForever Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 11 hours ago, Cimon8000 said: 3 months would be done for 100% sure! It would be nice but I wouldn't bet on that happening. Any number of things could put the 2252 project on hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 12 hours ago, Cimon8000 said: 3 months would be done for 100% sure! I wouldn't be too certain either. This project has the lowest priority as they don't even need 2252. It's just a nice thing to have for special events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6254 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Meaningful events like the TTC 95th anniversary this September. How about 2444? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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