vivablue5215 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Those 18 are replacement. You have a source for that? Since they're arriving at Q2 2013 and with the huge service expansions next year, I can't see them being all replacement buses, let alone any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylortbb Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 GRT always places their orders in two blocks. There's the replacement buses which are granted pre-budget approval so they can be ordered a year ahead and arrive earlier in the year, and the buses that are needed for service expansion which are ordered after the budget is approved (in January). They can't order expansions until the budget because until the budget it's uncertain how much expansion they'll be doing (though the RTMP has resulted in a lot less guessing here, solid plan that everyone on council backs). Because GRT is phasing in the 12 year replacement cycle they'll need 18 replacement buses, anything for service expansion has to be on top of that. NFI can't confirm more than 18 because GRT hasn't ordered more than 18, but they (almost certainly) will in January post-budget. Of course in reality ordering in January often means that expansion buses don't arrive in time for September, so the old ones are kept around until that order comes in. This somewhat blurs the line between replacement and expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL1892 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 You have a source for that? Since they're arriving at Q2 2013 and with the huge service expansions next year, I can't see them being all replacement buses, let alone any. Page 63 of the report you posted in post 2 of this thread: http://www.regionofwaterloo.ca/en/regionalGovernment/resources/PA2012-0925.pdf#Planning%20and%20Works%20Committee%20-%20September%2025,%202012%20Agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 yep the 209xx are one of the worst buses grt got i seen one today that should not be on road the dark smoke coming out of the back is somthing im suprise it hasnt been caught the 23xx are slowy getting better i was on 2 today and there faster then normal by far the worst novas i have is 530-31 like the drivers say everything is back wards i hope they will get retired soon.Yeah the kneel system is backwards, on the controls, up is down and down is up Yeah the kneel system is backwards, on the controls, up is down and down is up oh and you have to pull up to apply the maxi brake instead of pushing downIf you are dreaming about what the new ones will look like, look up pictures of the MTA New York's XD40's, they look somewhat similar to what our buses look like with the color schemes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Is there any more news on the new buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 hi everybody 21301 was seen by drivers at charles street terminal this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIDO Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 On the road already??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Any pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 no pictures i missed it by 2 hours will be looking for it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Are the specs still a mystery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj.surf.lfs Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 Are the specs still a mystery? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 i have pictures thanks to D4500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT 9401 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 i have pictures thanks to D4500. that's actually so nice ! I have a car now but im definitely going for a ride on one of these ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 i have pictures thanks to D4500. So much white areas...eww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 So much white areas...eww.The front is kinda bare, but I am sure that they will put a stripe or something there in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just like the previous order..... No opening windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just like the previous order..... No opening windows. Makes sense, GRT bolts their windows on existing units anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just like the previous order..... No opening windows.I think it would be better looking if they just got flush glazing for the windows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 and no tint on the windows just like the 94xx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT21101 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Did these get the INIT System update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 it has init installed allready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpd618 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 They have windows in the back! Thank God. Otherwise the seating layout looks identical to the last batch, which is a good thing in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIDO Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 it has init installed allready. I see the transmission gear selector is on the right. That'll take some getting used to. Also, Are these buses a different height/over height? I see a "Caution" sticker below the gear selector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL1892 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I see the transmission gear selector is on the right. That'll take some getting used to. Also, Are these buses a different height/over height? I see a "Caution" sticker below the gear selector. They are two inches taller(126") than the third generation Nova's (124"), three inches taller than older generations(123"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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