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I don't like the ZUM/BT XDE40/XD40 HVAC design because you can only mount the AA sign behind the driver's panel.

The ZUM Artics corrected this problem by using the MiLocal XD40 and EPA2010 D40LFR style vent. I think this vent is superior as it allows for the central mounted AA.

I don't know if you ridden Brampton 12XX series, they've moved their AA to centre, under the HVAC now!

But the B400R is the most economical, considering that most organizations either use Voith or Allison. You don't hear as much about ZF.

I've told the ZF are more reliable and better mileage than Allison.

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I don't know if you ridden Brampton 12XX series, they've moved their AA to centre, under the HVAC now!

I've told the ZF are more reliable and better mileage than Allison.

Nope I have not. So it seems from late 2011 onwards (cause MiLocal's are like this), they changed to this style vent which IMO is the better one anyway.

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They better deliver the buses on time, that would be such a disappointment if they didn't considering that it has been 10 years since GRT ordered from NFI. BAD IMPRESSION MUCH!

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I would think that they would deliver them in order, first-in, first-out.

Yeah I think the same thing you do...

Well, you would both think wrong.

An order specifies a number of different things: number of vehicles, their configuration, but also the date of delivery.

Some properties want their buses early in the year, so that they have the time to set them up and break them in gently before they need them for service after the summer. Others want them in the summer so that they aren't paying to store excess equipment. And still others just don't care. As long as they get them within a reasonable time, they're happy.

Dan

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Why guess when you can just email the Region of Waterloo and request them to email you the tender documents. This is the file to quote in the email "P2012-22"

Seriously, I don't understand why people are guessing where the people do work, can't ask another staff who does maintenance on the buses.

Otherwise, please wait!

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A driver just told me that we will be getting 16 by april and 17 in july... who is right? we are also saving up to $10,000,000 because we went to New Flyer!

A driver just told me that we will be getting 16 by april and 17 in july... who is right? we are also saving up to $10,000,000 because we went to New Flyer!

so there will be 33

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A driver just told me that we will be getting 16 by april and 17 in july... who is right?

Many drivers are as good of a resource as that random guy on the street. NFI already made it official that it's 18.

we are also saving up to $10,000,000 because we went to New Flyer!

And that's a good thing because...? What if they turn out to be more unreliable? It's one thing to purchase a cheaper bus; it's another to maintain it.

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so only 18 nothin will retire next year 92xx and 94xx will live another year.

Those 18 are replacement. The 15 to be delivered after are expansion (pending approval..?).

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Those 18 are replacement. The 15 to be delivered after are expansion (pending approval..?).

yeah because GRT has the option of 105 extra buses if funding is approved...

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