GRT21101 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I KNEW THEY SHOULD HAVE WENT WITH ALLISON! Look's like GRT and NewFlyer are fighting again.I like the way you think sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 there will be more then 2 buses on the 203 because if you look at the 3 its 30 minute service and there is 4 buses on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBirdVision Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Be specific for god sakes were having problems with these XD40's If I was in KW still I would do some looking around cause I knew Allison worked well with other models. You quoted a post from last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBirdVision Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I figured if these buses arrive with new specs. Then lets hope the 21300's get some work done as this is the next set of buses. The only thing is to fix those screw up in the buses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
902 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 also another reason why I mentioned it is because we received our first 2013 XD40 on March 1st last year, I thought we would be seeing them a bit sooner than this! And how long did it take for the rest to start showing up? The first one always comes early so they can test it and send it back for altercations if needed. They need the buses for the service expansion later this month, that is why I am mentioning it. Any buses they need for expansion would be available with the seasonal service reductions from university area routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 the 214xx order has been cut back to 5 from 11 fleet is not happy with new flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBirdVision Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 the 214xx order has been cut back to 5 from 11 fleet is not happy with new flyer.that is a retarded move. if they want to move the order from 40 to 11 then 5. Just WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 that is a retarded move. if they want to move the order from 40 to 11 then 5. Just WOW! There's a big reason to it! If a transit customer is not happy with it, the manufacturer better do something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 yep and GRT is not happy with the XD40 if the 5 that are coming arent better then back to nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 yep and GRT is not happy with the XD40 if the 5 that are coming arent better then back to nova. There's going to be a legal action to cancel the remainder contract if this does happen! The operator side from what I heard is also not happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 that is very true i know alot of GRT drivers nobody likes the XD40S i have heard drivers say there as bad as the 96xx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 that is very true i know alot of GRT drivers nobody likes the XD40S Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Why not? I did notice the turn radius isn't really good on them. But It does seem that the newer the buses are the more issues come with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 the turning radius is a major issue with the drivers alot of them told me thats why they dont want to drive them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBirdVision Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 the turning radius is a major issue with the drivers alot of them told me thats why they dont want to drive themthe thing i hate about them is that the windows don't open. and the whole bus needs a makeover. AND AS FOR NEW FLYER HEADS UP YOU GUYS! IF YOU WANNA MAKE A BUS MAKE SURE IT'S PERFECT FOR DRIVING AND NOT LIKE A PIECE OF GARBAGE A.K.A THE 9600'sThere's a big reason to it! If a transit customer is not happy with it, the manufacturer better do something!your talking smart dude. i rather put new steering wheels and the right parts. i noticed the 21300's when they turn it's looks weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2281 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 the thing i hate about them is that the windows don't open. and the whole bus needs a makeover. AND AS FOR NEW FLYER HEADS UP YOU GUYS! IF YOU WANNA MAKE A BUS MAKE SURE IT'S PERFECT FOR DRIVING AND NOT LIKE A PIECE OF GARBAGE A.K.A THE 9600's your talking smart dude. i rather put new steering wheels and the right parts. i noticed the 21300's when they turn it's looks weird. omg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 the turning radius is a major issue with the drivers alot of them told me thats why they dont want to drive them The Novas have the better radius for turning. The wheel base is a difference too. First image is a lovely XD40 attempting to pull a Nova maneuver aka speeding out of the terminal and trying to turn. It almost caught the curb. The next is an Ohmyxpress with the better turn radius. The wheel base on the Nova's are closer to each other unlike the flyers. Also Nova's wheel tuck in more when they steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 the thing i hate about them is that the windows don't open. and the whole bus needs a makeover. Tell that to GRT, not NFI about fixed windows! GRT is the one made up the specification! I'm also told during cold winter, no heat from the drivers area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBirdVision Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Tell that to GRT, not NFI about fixed windows! GRT is the one made up the specification! I'm also told during cold winter, no heat from the drivers area! okay now that's just a dumb move. these are worse than the 9600's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2281 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 okay now that's just a dumb move. these are worse than the 9600's Well as a GRT customer, I prefer the XD40 over anything else in the fleet. They are far more comfortable, and most customers seem to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBirdVision Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well as a GRT customer, I prefer the XD40 over anything else in the fleet. They are far more comfortable, and most customers seem to agree.if they went with the Allison B400R5 and the Cummins ISL9 and on the LBSS mode. Then we would have a better bus. Cause the 21300's are just not the best. If they get the 21400's they should change the specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FIDO Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well as a GRT customer, I prefer the XD40 over anything else in the fleet. They are far more comfortable, and most customers seem to agree. Try driving one, or sitting in the drivers seat for 5 hours! They're terrible to drive. Nothing can be easily reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit 20 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 fido thats very true i know alot of drivers and everybody says the same thing you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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