Brando737 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 I get why the City of North Vancouver would want the seabus to be part of the "one zone", but it's expensive to operate and it's rapid transit which is more convenient. People seem to want more, but they don't want to pay extra for it. As for skytrain from Surrey, I don't think they would need to make the trip to Vancouver 2 zones to make it fair as there are alternatives to make it only 2 zones, i.e. the 301 and 340 if people are willing to go a little out of the way. However, I do believe they could make a one zone fare for trips on skytrain from Surrey to Columbia, New Westminster, Sapperton, Braid and Lougheed as there is no other easier alternative to get to those unless you can get to Carvolth or Hwy 1 @ 156st easily. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 They've started closing gates at select stations on the Canada Line. There's a gate closed at Lansdowne and a gate closed at Waterfront. - Bryan "Goggles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpogue Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I get why the City of North Vancouver would want the seabus to be part of the "one zone", but it's expensive to operate and it's rapid transit which is more convenient. People seem to want more, but they don't want to pay extra for it. As for skytrain from Surrey, I don't think they would need to make the trip to Vancouver 2 zones to make it fair as there are alternatives to make it only 2 zones, i.e. the 301 and 340 if people are willing to go a little out of the way. However, I do believe they could make a one zone fare for trips on skytrain from Surrey to Columbia, New Westminster, Sapperton, Braid and Lougheed as there is no other easier alternative to get to those unless you can get to Carvolth or Hwy 1 @ 156st easily. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Presently, a bus from Carvolth to Lougheed then SkyTrain to Waterfront is only 2 zones. SkyTrain alone from King George to Waterfront is 3 zones. This 1-zone bus thing is definitely causing some weird imbalances in fare/distance distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 I get why the City of North Vancouver would want the seabus to be part of the "one zone", but it's expensive to operate and it's rapid transit which is more convenient. People seem to want more, but they don't want to pay extra for it. As for skytrain from Surrey, I don't think they would need to make the trip to Vancouver 2 zones to make it fair as there are alternatives to make it only 2 zones, i.e. the 301 and 340 if people are willing to go a little out of the way. However, I do believe they could make a one zone fare for trips on skytrain from Surrey to Columbia, New Westminster, Sapperton, Braid and Lougheed as there is no other easier alternative to get to those unless you can get to Carvolth or Hwy 1 @ 156st easily. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Maybe they could make the Lonsdale SeaBus terminal Zone 1, and collect the Zone 2 fare when you transfer to a North Van bus, or vice versa if you're going to Waterfront. That's something like what Toronto did in the 1960s/early 70s when TTC had the 2-zone system within then-Metro: The entire subway was in zone 1, even though 5 stations on the Bloor-Danforth line were physically located in zone 2, and 2 others were right on the border. Zone fares were collected when you transferred from the subway to a zone 2 bus, or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Maybe they could stop screwing people for poor panning and preparation on their part and charge everyone the same fares for the same level of service. I'm generally quick to defend Translink but for some reason beyond me, they're getting a free pass on this gong show in the media, relatively speaking. I won't actually do this, but I'm so tempted to ride across zones on SkyTrain with a one zone transfer from a bus just to challenge the current fare structure in court. I highly doubt it would pass the reasonableness test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Walton Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Maybe they could stop screwing people for poor panning and preparation on their part and charge everyone the same fares for the same level of service. They do that after 6:30 PM, weekends, and stat holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 There's no court fee for transit tickets. I'm outraged at a slap stick solution to a self imposed problem. And since my initial post I've been informed that ticketing has been "modified" to account for concerns of clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastal Transit Fan Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Maybe they could stop screwing people for poor panning and preparation on their part and charge everyone the same fares for the same level of service. I'm generally quick to defend Translink but for some reason beyond me, they're getting a free pass on this gong show in the media, relatively speaking. I won't actually do this, but I'm so tempted to ride across zones on SkyTrain with a one zone transfer from a bus just to challenge the current fare structure in court. I highly doubt it would pass the reasonableness test. I can't speak to the legal concerns, but the single-zone bus concept has been implemented in a few other cities without issue. I expect TransLink looked at those models before implementation.Additionally, this is an issue concerning the speed (or lack thereof) of cellular networks in Vancouver. They had a choice to either: 1) wait for cell networks to be upgraded to make for a better processing time on the units; or 2) eliminate the need to tap-out on buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpogue Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I can't speak to the legal concerns, but the single-zone bus concept has been implemented in a few other cities without issue. I expect TransLink looked at those models before implementation. Additionally, this is an issue concerning the speed (or lack thereof) of cellular networks in Vancouver. They had a choice to either: 1) wait for cell networks to be upgraded to make for a better processing time on the units; or 2) eliminate the need to tap-out on buses. The speed issues on buses are no longer a problem from what I've heard and experienced. Tap in/off on the bus has been reliable and fast since sometime in the spring. As far as I can tell this change is solely because some people complained that it was too much effort to remember to tap off when exiting the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 The speed issues on buses are no longer a problem from what I've heard and experienced. Tap in/off on the bus has been reliable and fast since sometime in the spring. As far as I can tell this change is solely because some people complained that it was too much effort to remember to tap off when exiting the bus. For me the issue would not be the effort to remember to tap off, but the whole getting the pass out to exit. Most often I am carting around a heavy swim equipment bag and once I board, I like to put my wallet back in my bag right away. Putting my wallet away in my bag ensures that I am not going to set it down or have it torn from my grasp by someone looking for a crime of opportunity. Having to take my wallet out when exiting means that after alighting I have to set my bag (maybe bags if I've got groceries) down on the ground to put my wallet away again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastal Transit Fan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 The speed issues on buses are no longer a problem from what I've heard and experienced. Tap in/off on the bus has been reliable and fast since sometime in the spring. As far as I can tell this change is solely because some people complained that it was too much effort to remember to tap off when exiting the bus. The timeline of events was that TELUS had previously agreed to TransLink sometime last year that a 0.3 second process time would be feasible and sufficient, from the 1 second it was at last spring. TELUS was only able to deliver a 0.5 second process time as of this August, and TL's own modeling showed that this would cause a reasonable to significant delay on busier routes such as the 99, so they had to go hunting for a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 BREAKING NEWS: Last month to buy paper daypasses and monthly passes is December, according to Buzzerblog. Also, additional faregate to close at M and E line stations November 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Royal Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Mentioned that the two-zone bus pass can be used to travel across any two zones. This is good, basically I can travel three zones if I tap in in a zone 2 gate (just the old tickets/transfers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidneyTransitfan Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 In regards to the Compass project, I just discovered a really weird fluke in the system. I often 'try' to tap other systems' smartcards into one-anothers' faregates/tap stations to see if anything happens. With all of them none of them have done anything other than say: "Stop - see attendant" or "Invalid Card"; Today was different though. This afternoon I disembarked from a United flight from Chicago ORD Airport, with my VENTRA card I acquired two years ago. Out of sincere boredom to kill a few minutes I tapped the card on the faregate at YVR Airport - the result made me think I was dreaming: "Proceed" Trying to tap out at the same station yielded the same old "Stop - See Attendant" message, but tapping out at Bridgeport revealed a green "Proceed" again. By then I was thinking this is really, really weird - though not totally unexplainable since VENTRA and Compass are 'sister' systems. Then I tapped in with it on the 620 to the Tsawwassen ferry - again a green "Proceed". I just checked my VENTRA balance, and the tap ins have not registered or taken any of the $5US remaining on the card. I'm thinking of returning to Vancouver in a few days to do this again and get video evidence. It's not supposed to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando737 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Interesting. I'm going to bring my oyster card from London to work with me tomorrow and see what happens. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 http://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?clipId=766862&binId=1.1184694&playlistPageNum=1 Scammer gets away by transferring funds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 That's a pretty text book fraud. Just don't be dumb and it is pretty easy to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Im posting this idea here because it seems most related to fares. http://www.news1130.com/2015/12/10/translink-considers-getting-rid-of-three-zone-fare-system/ Translink considers eliminating 3 zone fare system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidneyTransitfan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 I embarked on a dangerous journey to the Metro Vancouver area yesterday with the high winds and obtained the video evidence of VENTRA cards being tappable on Compass faregates, even opening the ones that are closed! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Bus Fan Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I notice on the radio TransLink has commercial about putting your monthly pass on the Compass Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I notice on the radio TransLink has commercial about putting your monthly pass on the Compass Card. That is great, because I am sure many people are not aware of that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando737 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 They will have no choice starting in January. No more monthly cards printed, all going to compass. Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Just in: Older fare machines are going to be cash only. https://twitter.com/TransLink/status/682343176821161984?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Just in:http://bc.ctvnews.ca/translink-receiving-numerous-compass-card-complaints-1.2721500Call center experiencing delays after users find issues from loading monthly passes onto their compass cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Sure glad I am not working in the call center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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