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I created a new page for the renamed TTC route 28 Bayview South and updated the map. I want to keep the former route (28 Davisville) with the old map.

Can the old revision of "Toronto Transit Commission route 28 map current.gif" be renamed to another name?

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I've split the photos up by giving them route names and changed the links on the pages. Is that correct?

http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Toronto_Transit_Commission_route_28_%27Davisville%27

http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Toronto_Transit_Commission_route_28_'Bayview_South'

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I have noticed that there are some photos that are now being added that circumvent the naming standards because the file extension is different. While this doesn't replace the existing photo it doesn't follow the standard that photos are to be numbered -a, -b, or -c. Instead we get -a.jpg, and -a.jpeg, and -a.png.

I think that even with a different file extension the standard should still be followed. What do others think?

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I have noticed that there are some photos that are now being added that circumvent the naming standards because the file extension is different. While this doesn't replace the existing photo it doesn't follow the standard that photos are to be numbered -a, -b, or -c. Instead we get -a.jpg, and -a.jpeg, and -a.png.

I think that even with a different file extension the standard should still be followed. What do others think?

Agreed. Doesn't matter what kind of file it is just make it the next one.

ex. Miway 1358-a.jpg

and if second one is a .jpeg then just make it

Miway 1358-b.jpeg and so on and so for...

That will save us a lot of problems and confusions. The whole point is to find the photos later on without having to try each link with different file extensions.

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Ok, can one of the mods do something about 'TorontoTransportGuy'. He is continuing to upload photos that replace previous photos. I have reverted them to the original version a few times but he just reuploads. I have tried to tell him of the naming conventions but he chooses to ignore them.

So can someone please advise him of the wiki protocol as he chooses to ignore others.

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Ok, can one of the mods do something about 'TorontoTransportGuy'. He is continuing to upload photos that replace previous photos. I have reverted them to the original version a few times but he just reuploads. I have tried to tell him of the naming conventions but he chooses to ignore them.

So can someone please advise him of the wiki protocol as he chooses to ignore others.

Well it has gotten to the point that we are all annoyed of the changes being reverted and photos being replaced to crap ones. I think he knows about what people wrote on his talk page but like you said he chooses to ignore them. Oh well I'm not the admin. Hope they do something about it soon.
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I've given him a warning about replacing and naming. I've also renamed/deleted some of the images.

I'm not quite understanding the TTC route map reverting though. Older maps have been replaced by newer ones in the past by other editors.

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Basically I was under the impression that no photos are to be replaced by editors. I recently found one complaint, somewhere in this section, where an editor complained about people uploading replacements and the history section where the old route maps were shown in a gallery were gone.

When uploading the Calgary maps I always put the date in the title, that way the replacement doesn't happen and the older maps are still there for a gallery.

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Basically I was under the impression that no photos are to be replaced by editors. I recently found one complaint, somewhere in this section, where an editor complained about people uploading replacements and the history section where the old route maps were shown in a gallery were gone.

Yes, two different photos should be under two different names. I have come up with a workaround to separate them if I need to (essentially move both/delete orig./move newer/undelete orig.).

When uploading the Calgary maps I always put the date in the title, that way the replacement doesn't happen and the older maps are still there for a gallery.

Same as I do for the Ottawa maps. Perhaps this should be done with the Toronto ones as well?

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Basically I was under the impression that no photos are to be replaced by editors. I recently found one complaint, somewhere in this section, where an editor complained about people uploading replacements and the history section where the old route maps were shown in a gallery were gone.

When uploading the Calgary maps I always put the date in the title, that way the replacement doesn't happen and the older maps are still there for a gallery.

I was actually under the impression that editors CAN replace people's photos ONLY if it is better quality than the existing one. But the case we had on the TTC 94XX page, it was not supposed to be changed to lower quality photos.
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I was actually under the impression that editors CAN replace people's photos ONLY if it is better quality than the existing one. But the case we had on the TTC 94XX page, it was not supposed to be changed to lower quality photos.

There is a thread with a post somewhere outlining the process to replace others photos with your own. If I remember correctly you have to ask permission of the copyright holder, or photographer, of the original photo that you want to replace. Otherwise you can't replace an existing photo on a page.

Yes, two different photos should be under two different names. I have come up with a workaround to separate them if I need to (essentially move both/delete orig./move newer/undelete orig.).

Same as I do for the Ottawa maps. Perhaps this should be done with the Toronto ones as well?

Honestly it should be done with any map, that way we have a nice history built up of the routes!

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I was actually under the impression that editors CAN replace people's photos ONLY if it is better quality than the existing one. But the case we had on the TTC 94XX page, it was not supposed to be changed to lower quality photos.

Perhaps wrongly, but I was under that impression too.

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Perhaps wrongly, but I was under that impression too.

There is a thread with a post somewhere outlining the process to replace others photos with your own. If I remember correctly you have to ask permission of the copyright holder, or photographer, of the original photo that you want to replace. Otherwise you can't replace an existing photo on a page.

I think we should talk about this matter more to clarify the photo replacement guidelines to prevent us from any more disputes. Because here, we are all unsure about it. D40LF says there is a thread with a post somewhere but I don't know where is that located. And "if I remember correctly you have to ask permission"; I had no idea about that because I've only been around for a year and a half and I've only read the page:

CPTDB Wiki:Naming Conventions page

It doesn't say anything about asking permission to replace photos but it does say do not replace someone's else's image but it brings us back to the issue about replacing someone's else image if its better quality.

Now I am not saying any of you guys are wrong nor trying to be rude here or anything but I feel there should be something done about this.

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Found something, not sure if this is what I do remember but Kevin L agreed to this!

http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=7965&p=605218

Kevin's response:

http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=7965&p=605245

Now I can't find something from Ashton, I think it was from when I was a wiki mod and may have been a PM since I can't seem to find it, where it was discussed about people replacing photos in galleries. Basically I was under the impression that it was something he didn't want as people would be continually uploading their own photos to the galleries all the time. I would however be interested in hearing more from Ashton about this.

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Found something, not sure if this is what I do remember but Kevin L agreed to this!

http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=7965&p=605218

Kevin's response:

http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=7965&p=605245

Now I can't find something from Ashton, I think it was from when I was a wiki mod and may have been a PM since I can't seem to find it, where it was discussed about people replacing photos in galleries. Basically I was under the impression that it was something he didn't want as people would be continually uploading their own photos to the galleries all the time. I would however be interested in hearing more from Ashton about this.

Beat me to it. I was the one who asked about that asking permission thing.

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I think we should talk about this matter more to clarify the photo replacement guidelines to prevent us from any more disputes. Because here, we are all unsure about it. D40LF says there is a thread with a post somewhere but I don't know where is that located. And "if I remember correctly you have to ask permission"; I had no idea about that because I've only been around for a year and a half and I've only read the page:

CPTDB Wiki:Naming Conventions page

It doesn't say anything about asking permission to replace photos but it does say do not replace someone's else's image but it brings us back to the issue about replacing someone's else image if its better quality.

I put that there to (hopefully) prevent people from uploading two images under the same suffix.

Open to everyone - Before I go ahead and do it, would a poll on asking permission to replace a photo on a page be a good idea to settle this?

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