Transit man2015 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 This order will be either clean diesel or hybrid this will be the last diesel order then CNG buses will be ordered in 2015 if everything goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYBklyn1959 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Which garage is getting CNG first? I would assume Central Division (CED) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit man2015 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Which garage is getting CNG first? I would assume Central Division (CED) Most likely Central or Coral Way Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 While looking around, I discovered this roster showing various buses from MDT's past. http://www.oocities.org/~buslist/MDTA/Miami_DadeTA.html Included here are buses that MDT bought from TTC, SCRTD, Louisville, Cleveland and MARTA. Most are GMCs, but some Flxibles from MARTA were bought. Most of these used buses didn't last long, due to MetroRail and Metromover opening during the mid 1980s. Plus most of these buses were already over 20+ years old. This is probably why MDT didn't replace most of their GMC Fishbowls with new buses. If any of these used buses made it after 1984, 1987 is likely when they retired, when the Flxibles arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Hopefully the link is working now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit man2015 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 While looking around, I discovered this roster showing various buses from MDT's past. http://www.oocities.org/~buslist/MDTA/Miami_DadeTA.html Included here are buses that MDT bought from TTC, SCRTD, Louisville, Cleveland and MARTA. Most are GMCs, but some Flxibles from MARTA were bought. Most of these used buses didn't last long, due to MetroRail and Metromover opening during the mid 1980s. Plus most of these buses were already over 20+ years old. This is probably why MDT didn't replace most of their GMC Fishbowls with new buses. If any of these used buses made it after 1984, 1987 is likely when they retired, when the Flxibles arrived. Thanks Big Cj it would be cool if we were able to find an updated roster for the bus fleet and have the Wiki updated to incorporate the other hybrid buses MDT brought And the new railcar addition since the budds are being replaced with AsnaldoBreda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Thanks Big Cj it would be cool if we were able to find an updated roster for the bus fleet and have the Wiki updated to incorporate the other hybrid buses MDT brought And the new railcar addition since the budds are being replaced with AsnaldoBreda Your welcome. I wish we had a full roster for every other transit system and private company down here. I either find bits and pieces of information from these companies or find info via pictures uploaded throughout the internet. Overall, that roster from MDT is a major discovery and will be helpful. There are also notes for the RTS and Flxibles. Those notes might be of interest to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. S. Bach Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Interesting article in today's Miami Herald: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/11/4108239/miamis-metrorail-at-30-promises.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I added most of the used buses Miami bought to the roster. The Flxibles bought in 1982 will prove to be a challenge, since the notes list serial numbers versus actual road numbers from MARTA. Also I spoke with someone who saw retired buses that were painted red and silver in the early 1980s. Those were the TTC units, which likely arrived at that point in time to begin service for MTA (what MDT was called back then). The same person also rode on the Ex-MARTA Flxibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I have unfortunate news to give everyone. 5006, 7080, and several other Flxibles are candidates for being auctioned. It appears that Miami doesn't have the funding or resources to restore some of those buses. Don't know what will happen, but we will find out down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I don't know if this was posted, but this needs to be. http://ngvtoday.org/2014/04/15/miami-dade-nears-issue-of-rfp-for-full-cng-bus-fleet-fueling-infrastructure/ This is an RFP for 300 CNG buses and option orders too. Miami wants 817 CNG buses. Since NABI is out of the question, that leaves Gillig and New Flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I don't know if this was posted, but this needs to be. http://ngvtoday.org/2014/04/15/miami-dade-nears-issue-of-rfp-for-full-cng-bus-fleet-fueling-infrastructure/ This is an RFP for 300 CNG buses and option orders too. Miami wants 817 CNG buses. Since NABI is out of the question, that leaves Gillig and New Flyer. Thanks CJ! My understanding is that typically Gillig does not bid on contracts which require more than 80 buses or so to be delivered in the same year. This looks to me like a nice target for NFI building Xcelsiors in Alabama by the end of next year. On the other hand, Nova builds CNG buses now and they just won an order from NFTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYBklyn1959 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I would guess NFI, as MDT has some artics from them already (the 09500 series). OTOH, wonder where MDT is getting the money for this. I had heard that they were in dire financial straits, and could only buy a few buses a year off the FDOT contract (currently held by Gillig). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 I have a very funny feeling Gillig will take this contract. 100 buses a year doesn't sound like too much trouble for Gillig. It would also make Gillig a threat to New Flyer and Novabus when it comes to large customer orders (especially in big cities). With NABI going to be out in 2015, Gillig will want to step up when it comes to ordering city contracts. Matter of fact they did bid on a city contract not too long ago. They, Nova, and New Flyer bidded on that contract for CTA, of course Nova won that contract. FYBklyn1959, also I think they're going to tap into the FDOT contract for buses, provided Gillig wins. When Gillig renewed last year, they included CNG options with the contract as well as BAE Hybridrive system. Let me go find that. Thanks CJ! My understanding is that typically Gillig does not bid on contracts which require more than 80 buses or so to be delivered in the same year. This looks to me like a nice target for NFI building Xcelsiors in Alabama by the end of next year. On the other hand, Nova builds CNG buses now and they just won an order from NFTA. We will see what happens once it's announced. I would guess NFI, as MDT has some artics from them already (the 09500 series). OTOH, wonder where MDT is getting the money for this. I had heard that they were in dire financial straits, and could only buy a few buses a year off the FDOT contract (currently held by Gillig). The D60LFRs I heard are good. As for who will be getting what, it's still not clear. It could be Gillig or New Flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 I have a very funny feeling Gillig will take this contract. 100 buses a year doesn't sound like too much trouble for Gillig. It would also make Gillig a threat to New Flyer and Novabus when it comes to large customer orders (especially in big cities). With NABI going to be out in 2015, Gillig will want to step up when it comes to ordering city contracts. Matter of fact they did bid on a city contract not too long ago. They, Nova, and New Flyer bidded on that contract for CTA, of course Nova won that contract. FYBklyn1959, also I think they're going to tap into the FDOT contract for buses, provided Gillig wins. When Gillig renewed last year, they included CNG options with the contract as well as BAE Hybridrive system. Let me go find that. 1.jpg Gillig Contract Options.jpg 3.jpg We will see what happens once it's announced. If they don't have to deliver more than 100 buses in a single year, I have to agree that Gillig is in a great position. But this is a separate deal not related to the FDOT contract for buses. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 If they don't have to deliver more than 100 buses in a single year, I have to agree that Gillig is in a great position. But this is a separate deal not related to the FDOT contract for buses. Correct? Now that I'm not sure. Remains to be seen. In the meanwhile, Miami is suppose to get more buses from Gillig this year. Not a lot, but more buses nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrabs74 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Thanks CJ! My understanding is that typically Gillig does not bid on contracts which require more than 80 buses or so to be delivered in the same year. This looks to me like a nice target for NFI building Xcelsiors in Alabama by the end of next year. On the other hand, Nova builds CNG buses now and they just won an order from NFTA. Gillig has provided a large delivery batch for a couple of orders in Pittsburgh in the past (166 in 2003, 92 in 2006, and 80 diesels in 2009). That said, I wouldn't be shocked if Nova is in the mix after winning that Buffalo contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit man2015 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Time will tell if MDT will go for gillig buses in which it is most likely to. Or try newflyer XN40 buses out they should both send a pilot bus out to test them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit man2015 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well MDT has approved the paint colors for the new gillig buses last month but the fleet number is unknown but it might be 14101-14135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well MDT has approved the paint colors for the new gillig buses last month but the fleet number is unknown but it might be 14001-14035 So 2015 the Gilligs will arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit man2015 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 So 2015 the Gilligs will arrive. Yes but fleet number is unknown as of now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Dozens Are Injured Every Year on Miami-Dade Buses, Often by Drivers With Bad Records By Trevor Bach Wed., Oct. 8 2014 at 8:00 AM http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2014/10/battered_on_the_bus.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYBklyn1959 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Yes but fleet number is unknown as of now They would probably be 14101-14135. MDT uses what I call a "YYTXX" numbering scheme, where YY = year ordered, and T = type of bus, using the following codes: 1,2 - 40-foot bus 3 - less than 40-foot bus 5 - 60-foot articulated bus 7 - Highway coach bus This has been in place since the 2002 NABI 40-LFWs (02101-02210, although most of the fans in the Miami area dropp the leading zero on those buses (i.e. 2101), of course after 2010, that is no longer possible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
140 Southshore Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Well, just out of curiosity, I would like to know the livery that MDT (then called the MTA) used back in circa 1988. I need to know this for a certain project that I am planning. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Turkish bus builder could create at least 80 jobs in Miami with natural gas deal http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2015/03/13/turkish-bus-builder-could-create-at-least-80-jobs.html?page=all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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