smallspy Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 That comment implies other New Flyer buses are built using the imperial system, which I find impossible. Canada also uses the metric system and I can't imagine New Flyer making one set of metric tools/fasteners/materials for buses made in Winnipeg and one set of imperial tools/fasteners/materials for buses assembled in Minnesota. A lot of heavy machinery is built with imperial. Trucks, buses, etc., regardless of where it is built. Locomotives built by GMD in London or MLW in Montreal were always imperial, for instance. Hell, I would bet you that a lot of the hardware in your house is imperial. Just because we live in a metric society doesn't mean that everything instantly changed over. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
septa105R5/seClip9 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Check out pictures of the MiDi in Phlash (Krapf's) Paint Scheme here http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=12427&page=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 septa_kid has revealed that New Flyer build plates on the MiDi refer to the buses as MD30 and MD35! http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=12427&page=8&do=findComment&comment=654360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUB Transit Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 The Altoona report is availaible. Other than some issues with the sway bars, the bus looks solid. http://146.186.225.57/buses/reports/439.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVTArider Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 I forgot to mention this before, but while traveling on I-94 in Wisconsin a couple weeks ago I spotted a MiDi headed eastbound. The sign was showing orange squares, and it was too dark to tell if there was any livery on it. I'm fairly certain it was white though. Demo or possibly a new one being delivered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Driving to Quebec? To a showroom for ABC companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Got wind of another MiDi demo vin #, and it's not one listed on the Wiki. Anyone documented SFEY11112DGN3356 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVTArider Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I stopped by the ABC Companies sales and service center in Faribault, MN yesterday to see what equipment was sitting around, I was not disappointed: I thought these were demo units at first since they were parked in front with a couple TX45 on display, but the person I spoke with said they were ordered by a customer and scheduled for pickup today. I don't know who the customer is, but black MD35 shouldn't be too hard to find somewhere eventually. Considering they have bike racks I have to wonder if they are bound for a college/university system somewhere in the Midwest. (I don't really see a casino, parking shuttle service, or hotel ordering them with racks) No idea what the numbers are, one had a paper with 45936, and the other 45937. Fleet number? VIN? Registration? (Actually with a black base livery they might even be for Lorenz for the St. Thomas University connector line. Lorenz is a long time ABC/Van Hool client and was recently awarded the STU shuttle contract. There was also a Lorenz coach parked next to these possibly awaiting pickup. /speculation) At any rate it was cool to see a couple in person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalwart23 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 45936 and 45937 I think are the VINs for those buses. Nolan Kolmel Secretary - Motor Bus Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Nice find! Let us know if you find out where the black MiDi's went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 In a conference call yesterday, the CEO of New Flyer said that the MiDi program has been "more difficult than we anticipated." He also said that they are committed to making it a success over the long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 NFI has finally announced a few MiDi sales. Nice to see! (Thanks to Septa105R5 for the heads up in the NFI thread) Martha Vineyard is ordering 4 MiDi MD30 and Greater Attleboro Taunton Regional Transit Authority (also Massachusetts) is ordering 3 MiDi MD30 as well. http://www.newflyer....s-vineyeard-rta http://www.newflyer....rds-new-flyer-a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Anyone know where this MiDi is belongs? http://www.metro-magazine.com/photogallery/photos/294170/photos-apta-bus-paratransit-bus-showcase/24454 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Anyone know where this MiDi is belongs? http://www.metro-magazine.com/photogallery/photos/294170/photos-apta-bus-paratransit-bus-showcase/24454 Looks like one of the demo's that has been making the rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Looks like one of the demo's that has been making the rounds Ok, I thought maybe it wasn't a demo but now I'm sure you are right. Here is a notice of sale of 15 MiDi's. Biggest MiDi order yet? http://www.newflyer.com/index/the-lower-rio-grande-valley-development-council-awards-new-flyer-a- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XN40 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Cummins has recently released their new ISB 6.7G for applications that need a small, spark ignited engine. http://ngv.com/cummins-westport-unveils-isb-6-7-g-natural-gas-engine/ Ratings up to 260 hp and torque up to 660 lbs-ft, and there should be a version that works for a Midi. I think there will now be a Midi CNG in the near future or other buses that need a small 6.7L cng engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Cummins has recently released their new ISB 6.7G for applications that need a small, spark ignited engine. http://ngv.com/cummins-westport-unveils-isb-6-7-g-natural-gas-engine/ Ratings up to 260 hp and torque up to 660 lbs-ft, and there should be a version that works for a Midi. I think there will now be a Midi CNG in the near future or other buses that need a small 6.7L cng engine. Good info. I hope you are right about a MiDi CNG in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I noticed on photos that the MiDi has smaller tires (shorter) compared to the competitor Vicinity bus. Specs on both websites confirm this; the MiDi specs show 19.5 inch tires and the Vicinity shows 22.5. Quite a difference. Anybody in the know care to comment on the advantages/disadvantages of having shorter tires, or what might be the reason for this big difference? I imagine it affects fuel economy, handling, clearance, and everything else. PS: The EZ Rider II bus also comes in 22.5 inch tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 I noticed on photos that the MiDi has smaller tires (shorter) compared to the competitor Vicinity bus. Specs on both websites confirm this; the MiDi specs show 19.5 inch tires and the Vicinity shows 22.5. Quite a difference. Anybody in the know care to comment on the advantages/disadvantages of having shorter tires, or what might be the reason for this big difference? I imagine it affects fuel economy, handling, clearance, and everything else. PS: The EZ Rider II bus also comes in 22.5 inch tires. The Vicinity does not have dual tires in the rear either. I imagine it has more to do with the engineering of the chassis, and what they have room for. That is just a guess though. IIRC, the Blue Bird Ultra LF and Thomas SLF had the smaller size tires as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 I noticed on photos that the MiDi has smaller tires (shorter) compared to the competitor Vicinity bus. Specs on both websites confirm this; the MiDi specs show 19.5 inch tires and the Vicinity shows 22.5. Quite a difference. Anybody in the know care to comment on the advantages/disadvantages of having shorter tires, or what might be the reason for this big difference? I imagine it affects fuel economy, handling, clearance, and everything else. PS: The EZ Rider II bus also comes in 22.5 inch tires. In my practical experience with the SLF, the only real difference is in ground clearance. 19.5 rims brought the bus body too low to avoid some obstacles ( side to side comparison, I had champion solos, with 22.5 wheels at the same time)The slfs had a particularly hard time in snow over 10 cm (I'm Canadian) with snow packing up underneath to the point where it impeded steering and suspension travel, in addition to forcing the lower body panels away from their mountings on the leeward side of the wheel wells. Long story short, in snowy climates, a less "low" profile is beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Thanks medic! Sounds like New Flyer is producing the MiDi with less snowy regions in mind. And all other things being equal (which of course they are not) the Vicinity would be the right choice for most Canadian routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I spotted two NFI MiDi buses heading west on Highway 417 in Ottawa this morning. Both were all-white and had Quebec dealer plates, with the second having both NFI and Girardin markings while the first had only New Flyer markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 NFI announces the SEPTA order of MiDi buses. I believe our faithful SEPTA reporters on this board had already let us know. The contract, valued at approximately $17 million, is for a total of 35 MD30 buses, 28 which are firm with options for an additional seven. To date, New Flyer has delivered over 80 MiDi buses in North America. Read more at http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2015/09/30/southeastern-pennsylvania-transportation-authority-awards-new-flyer-a-contract#b9R6WJYwHlxB7Rty.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 NFI announces the SEPTA order of MiDi buses. I believe our faithful SEPTA reporters on this board had already let us know. The contract, valued at approximately $17 million, is for a total of 35 MD30 buses, 28 which are firm with options for an additional seven. To date, New Flyer has delivered over 80 MiDi buses in North America. Read more at http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2015/09/30/southeastern-pennsylvania-transportation-authority-awards-new-flyer-a-contract#b9R6WJYwHlxB7Rty.99 nice thx for the info, too bad there is none of them in Greater Toronto Area yet.............this is not fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thanks to our own ABQ RIDE for noticing something interesting in the following press release! http://www.newflyer....s-app/story.239"According to the article posted, the joint procurement includes options for 35/40/60-foot Xcelsiors in diesel, hybrid, and CNG configurations, as well as MiDis in diesel and CNG configurations.It looks like we could soon be seeing a CNG version of the MiDi (MC30 or MN30?)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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