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More Xcelsiors for CT. This will replace the 2001-2005 D40LFs

 

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada – June 6, 2016: (TSX: NFI) (TSX: NFI.DB.U) New Flyer of America Inc., a subsidiary of New Flyer Industries Inc. (“New Flyer” or the “Company”), the leading manufacturer of heavy-duty transit buses and motor coaches in the United States and Canada, announced today that Connecticut Department of Transportation (“CTDOT”) awarded New Flyer a contract for up to 485 heavy-duty 35 and 40-foot Xcelsior® clean diesel and diesel electric hybrid buses.

The contract includes a firm order for 267 Xcelsior XD40, XD35, XDE40 and XDE35 buses valued at approximately $122 million, with options for an additional 218 units over the next five years. The order will replace older vehicles in CTDOT’s current fleet with newer, more fuel efficient Xcelsior XD40 buses.

CTDOT currently provides over 31 million passenger trips annually with a fleet of 570 vehicles serving Hartford, New Haven, Stamford, Waterbury, New Britain, Bristol, Meriden, and Wallingford urban areas. These services are operated by private contractors under CTDOT’s CTtransit brand name.

New Flyer has delivered nearly 600 heavy-duty transit buses to CTDOT since 1993.

“We are very excited to continue our partnership with CTDOT that has spanned over three decades, said Paul Soubry, President and Chief Executive Officer of New Flyer. “Our best-in class heavy-duty Xcelsior bus will directly support CTDOT’s strategic initiatives as they work to reduce their carbon footprint, and improve bus performance and reliability.”

NOTE: All dollar amounts are stated in U.S. currency.
 

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I've been watching the wiki page for Connecticut Transit for the past few days, I noticed some missing and/or inaccurate info.

2017 MCI D4500CT

 Possibly to be numbered 1775-1799, they will have the Cummins X12/ISX12 425 HP engine ~ Allison B500R transmission

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http://www.biznet.ct.gov/SCP_Documents/Results/17785/16DOT7002 - Posted 1-9-17.pdf

2016-2017 New Flyer Xcelsior

The first part of the Xcelsior order will be numbered 1601-1653. This comes second-hand from a CTtransit employee. Regarding builder's plates, the only 2016 model is 1601. I'm going to assume 1602-1626 have ISL9 EPA 13 engines was because enough were delivered to last up to a certain point, and that a two month interval occurred between 1601 and 1602 (Up until 1615, they are sequential, starting from 521). 

The second part will be numbered 1701-1772. These are estimated to be started on next month, judging from builders plate to first date on service (about 1-2 months). The numbering comes from a CTtransit page on Facebook. "The first part of the order (the 1600-series buses) will replace the 200-series buses in Hartford. The second half of the order will be the 170-series buses, which will replace the 300-series buses in Hartford & New Haven. (https://www.facebook.com/Brian-S-McLaughlin-CTtransit-Planning-Scheduling-289446764478967/)". 125 are set to be delivered this year to CTtransit, and approximately 50 to other companies in the state (I can source this information if need be). 15 XDE40s are for Greater Bridgeport Transit (Numbered 4701-4715), another 15 for Bridgeport (these are XDE35s), and 10 XD35 buses have been delivered to UConn in Storrs to replace their Blue Bird buses (1701-1710). The GBT Hybrids have ISB ~ H 40 EP, probably because they were on the state RFP for buses in April/May of last year. They have some diesel buses on the property too, but numbers have yet to be confirmed (Possibly 4716+).

2015 MCI D4500CT

3 MCI D4500CT buses were built (date unknown) in 2015, numbered 1510-1513. They have the ISL9 EPA 13 engine ~ Allison B500R transmission

28744892673_5412b72758_k.jpgCTtransit 2015 MCI D4500CT #1510 on Route 921 Express by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

2014-2015 Gillig BRT

3 Gillig BRT 29' HEV buses were built at the end of May in 2015, numbered 1501-1503. They were (obviously) delivered in early June. They have the same powertrain the state has used in 40ft and below hybrids since 2010: Cummins ISB6.7 ~ Allison H 40 EP

32740069764_69fae6c20f_k.jpgCTfastrak 2015 Gillig BRT 29' Hybrid #1501 on Route 153 - Builders Plate by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

34062459702_3f7f7b0da4_k.jpgCTfastrak 2015 Gillig BRT 29' Hybrid #1502 on Route 153 by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

I should note that the numbers for the 14XX go up to 1438, not 1440. Hence, 1501-1503 (There was 12 ordered).

2011 NovaBUS LFS Artic

1101 returned to service at the end of November. I have pictures of it on it's first day back (11/26/16).

31363227805_5599361cd0_k.jpgCTtransit 2011 NovaBus LFSA HEV #1101 on Route 62 by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

2002 New Flyer D40LF

4 D40LFs were seen (by me) in a lot other than the CTtransit garage. There was a lot owned by DATTCO in Hartford's North End shortly before they went on strike in early Winter. Specifically 211,213,230, & 234. It would make sense to assume they're retired. At some point before the XD40s finish arriving, I will find and go to the lot where they put To-Be-Auctioned state vehicles and see if I can find out if more are retired/sold.

The 2001 D40LF in Hartford have all been retired. I saw them last in early March, shortly after the first XD40s entered service, and about 20 minutes ago while looking for RFP documents. 215 and H302 have also been retired and sent to an auto body shop called "Corona's" on Wethersfield Avenue.

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47 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

2016-2017 New Flyer Xcelsior

The first part of the Xcelsior order will be numbered 1601-1653. This comes second-hand from a CTtransit employee. Regarding builder's plates, the only 2016 model is 1601. I'm going to assume 1602-1626 have ISL9 EPA 13 engines was because enough were delivered to last up to a certain point, and that a two month interval occurred between 1601 and 1602 (Up until 1615, they are sequential, starting from 521). 

The second part will be numbered 1701-1772. These are estimated to be started on next month, judging from builders plate to first date on service (about 1-2 months). The numbering comes from a CTtransit page on Facebook. "The first part of the order (the 1600-series buses) will replace the 200-series buses in Hartford. The second half of the order will be the 170-series buses, which will replace the 300-series buses in Hartford & New Haven. (https://www.facebook.com/Brian-S-McLaughlin-CTtransit-Planning-Scheduling-289446764478967/)". 125 are set to be delivered this year to CTtransit, and approximately 50 to other companies in the state (I can source this information if need be). 15 XDE40s are for Greater Bridgeport Transit (Numbered 4701-4715), another 15 for Bridgeport (these are XDE35s), and 10 XD35 buses have been delivered to UConn in Storrs to replace their Blue Bird buses (1701-1710). The GBT Hybrids have ISB ~ H 40 EP, probably because they were on the state RFP for buses in April/May of last year. They have some diesel buses on the property too, but numbers have yet to be confirmed (Possibly 4716+).

The "DATE OF MANUFACTURER" on the New Flyer builder's plates is the date that the bus was built in, not the model date/year.  The model year can be found on the 10th digit of a bus' 17-digit VIN.  Based on seeing all of your photos of the builder's plates of XD40 buses 1601, 1604, 1606, 1608, 1610-1612 and 1615, all of them have the "G" model year code, which means they are 2016 models, according to this model year encoding table in the wiki.  Therefore, 1601 is not the only 2016 model XD40 bus CTtransit has in their fleet.  Besides that, I've listed 1628-1653 and the 1700s in the same page as 1601-1627.

While you are right about the 15 XDE40s GBT received, they also got 5 XD35s, 15 XD40s and 5 XDE35s (not 15), according to this GBT Board Meeting on July 13, 2016.  If the hybrids are 2017 models, they should be powered by B6.7 engines.  I'll get around to adding these GBT and UConn buses in their respective pages.

57 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

2015 MCI D4500CT

3 MCI D4500CT buses were built (date unknown) in 2015, numbered 1510-1513. They have the ISL9 EPA 13 engine ~ Allison B500R transmission

You mean 4, based on the fleet number range.  Other than that, done.

57 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

2014-2015 Gillig BRT

3 Gillig BRT 29' HEV buses were built at the end of May in 2015, numbered 1501-1503. They were (obviously) delivered in early June. They have the same powertrain the state has used in 40ft and below hybrids since 2010: Cummins ISB6.7 ~ Allison H 40 EP

I should note that the numbers for the 14XX go up to 1438, not 1440. Hence, 1501-1503 (There was 12 ordered).

I've combined all 12 Gilligs in one page.

58 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

2011 NovaBUS LFS Artic

1101 returned to service at the end of November. I have pictures of it on it's first day back (11/26/16).

Done.

1 hour ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

2002 New Flyer D40LF

4 D40LFs were seen (by me) in a lot other than the CTtransit garage. There was a lot owned by DATTCO in Hartford's North End shortly before they went on strike in early Winter. Specifically 211,213,230, & 234. It would make sense to assume they're retired. At some point before the XD40s finish arriving, I will find and go to the lot where they put To-Be-Auctioned state vehicles and see if I can find out if more are retired/sold.

The 2001 D40LF in Hartford have all been retired. I saw them last in early March, shortly after the first XD40s entered service.

Do make sure of the statuses of those 200s.  As for the 100s, I've listed some as retired, but I'll have to do another look over on this and others later.

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The three 2015 MCI D4500CTs are actually numbered 1510, 1512 and 1513. There is no 1511. I am not sure what the VIN numbers are unfortunately, due to the different engine in the buses. Could the letter "A" be the choice in the engine code in the VIN due to the engine being the Cummins ISL9.

 

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Finally got some more builders plates, and some being somewhat necessary. 

A1510:

34023420653_8b18e84bbd_k.jpgCTtransit #1510 (A1510) on Route 921 Express by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

34701119501_267fbdee67_k.jpgCTtransit #1510 (A1510) on Route 921 Express - Builders Plate by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

1513:

34669896512_5e343d6b7f_k.jpgCTtransit 2015 MCI D4500CT #1513 on Route 917T by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

34669896492_a5b0a5ded1_k.jpgCTtransit 2015 MCI D4500CT #1513 on Route 917T - Builders Plate by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

I passed 1512 while it was on layover and I missed it after trying to chase what eventually would be 1704 on Route 909 Express. Until I do get it, I'm going to assume the last six digits are 013170.

 

Some 1700s have been popping up in Hartford both on local and express service. I've seen 1709 twice in the past couple of days.

1708:

34703209826_1273fbb18e_k.jpgCTtransit 2017 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 #1708 on Route 905E-915 Express by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

Last 4 digits are 1164.

Got even more, but I don't wanna add more pictures, so I'll just list the newer ones:

1605: 5FYD8FV17GC050525

1609: 5FYD8FV17GC050529

1617: 5FYD8FV16GC050537

1620: 5FYD8FV16GC050540

1625: 5FYD8FV15GC050545

1626: 5FYD8FV17GC050546

1701: 5FYD8FV1XHC051157

1705: 5FYD8FV11HC051161

1707: 5FYD8FV15HC051163

1709: 5FYD8FV19HC051165

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39 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

I passed 1512 while it was on layover and I missed it after trying to chase what eventually would be 1704 on Route 909 Express. Until I do get it, I'm going to assume the last six digits are 013170.

I can wait for it.  Assumptions will not be added.

39 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

1708:

<snip>

Last 4 digits are 1164.

Got even more, but I don't wanna add more pictures, so I'll just list the newer ones:

1617: 5FYD8FV16GC050537

1620: 5FYD8FV16GC050540

1708's license plate is noted.  1617's and 1620's VINs are structurally correct, but I can wait for you to upload the pics of their builder plates, along with 1708's. 

43 minutes ago, LegoNovaLFS2001 said:

1605: 5FYD8FV17GC050525

The structure of this VIN is incorrect.  Again, I can wait for you to post the pic of this bus' builder plate.

 

Other than those, I've noted the info from all of the builder plates in your pics and I'll add them this Friday.

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Some updates.

"Crashed" MCI

A71 was in fact the bus involved in the collision on Asylum Avenue. It suffered virtually no damages, except that the piece that connects the bike rack and the bumper was damaged, and the bike rack was taken off. It was active during PM Rush Hour today.

New MCI D4500CT

The new MCI D4500CT have started arriving, and it appears they'll be numbered in the 16xx as well, possibly from 1661, but the guy who posted about it depicted 1678(?), so the possibility of a number like 1671 (when the 2010 contractor coaches were ordered, A71-A91) or 1675, going along with the 2014 order. If the images are too blurry, I apologize. It went from a phone to Facebook to .png to here.

New New Flyer Xcelsiors

Regarding XD40s, I was at the depot a few days ago (well, outside the fence) for about 5 minutes, and saw a new MCI and XD40. Because New Flyer plasters the numbers in large font, I saw 1722 outside in front of an MCI. 1721 was out on the 66T, and 1720 on the 46 a few days ago. By the end of the month, those 2002s will be history, if not sooner.

New Property 

And it turns out that former DATTCO lot in the North End was bought from DATTCO to store new and "decommissioned" buses, as well as part storage, as of the CTtransit reps put it. This makes sense now, because a 2007 D40LF was there along with all the to-be-retired 2002 D40LFs.

New XD40 VINs

1614: 5FYD8FV10GC050534

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1619: 5FYD8FV1XGC050539

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1704: 5FYD8FV1XHC051160

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34355302263_20278bc06d_h.jpgCTtransit 2017 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 #1704 on Route 30X by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

1712: 5FYD8FV14HC051168

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35125104426_fc29693f30_h.jpgCTtransit 2017 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 #1712 NIS by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

1714: 5FYD8FV12HC051170

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1715: 5FYD8FV14HC051171

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1718: 5FYD8FV1XHC051174

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1720: 5FYD8FV13HC051176 

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35058205486_63ac7bf541_h.jpgCTtransit 2017 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 #1720 en Route to Garage by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

In other news, a new bus appeared on one of the rarest of routes, a CTfastrak feeder route, during the graveyard shift. Even while 29' buses are running, there's never people on these runs. Maybe it's this barn foreman the employees/ former employees speak of.

35189388045_d47cfc3a7e_k.jpgCTtransit 2017 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 #1713 on Route 153 by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

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From the looks of it, the MCIs delivery started last week or the week before. Anyway, MCIs up to 1692 have been delivered, and 1691 this morning. At this point for the Xcelsiors, up to 1730 (As far as I know) have been delivered. They were hidden behind the MCIs well. When I visited the North Main Street facility this morning, the lowest unit number I saw was 1676, so it's almost safe to say that the MCIs start at 1675. They've also placed some of the 300s, as well as a Suburban, 2 2005s, and a 2014 XDE40.

35354507321_138bb08d02_h.jpgCTtransit 2017 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 #1730 NIS by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

35317733172_6c23afd2a8_h.jpgCTtransit 2017 MCI D4500CT #1691 NIS by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

34643711624_dfe9a32eda_h.jpgNew CTtransit 2016-2017 MCI D4500CT NIS by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

35445318636_5c8b0ef05b_h.jpgNew CTtransit 2016-2017 MCI D4500CT NIS by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

And I got the last 2015 MCI builders plate.

35317846692_2aef1ccbd6_h.jpgCTtransit 2015 MCI D4500CT #1512 on Route 917 - Builders Plate by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

Lastly, a pic of 304 on the Asylum Hill Shuttle

34675058453_2970b92e8f_h.jpgCTtransit 2003 MCI D4500CL #304 on the AH Shuttle by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

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That is an ex-CTtransit 2001 D40LF. I'm unsure of the number, since five 2001 buses were bought and are going to the same area, (115,116 went to somewhere in NYC, 117,121, and 122 went to Long Island, along with at least half a dozen 2002 units). My guess is that its going to a scrap lot. Either that, or someone is starting a charter service in LI.

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

Thought this might be of interest.

 

New Flyer D40LF #232 in Astoria, close to Rikers Island.

 

 

35625424150_86362fe06d_c.jpgIMG_1085 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

35625423930_6e4f3e7d7f_c.jpgIMG_1086 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

35625423820_fb45bf48ab_c.jpgIMG_1087 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

35625423690_8516c3f550_c.jpgIMG_1088 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

35973371466_d27c973f45_c.jpgIMG_1091 by GojiMet86, on Flickr

 

Same company that used to own those ex Fairfax V's? 

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The New York license plate reads:

69792MJ

 

When a bus runs for, let's say the Port Authority or Cong Maten Torah (the one that uses the Fairfaxs), or a New York transport company, the license plate can end in BA, BB, PA, PB, or PC, with BB and PC being used for new plates.

 

I am not sure what MJ is used for. But I don't think its Maten or Private Transportation.

The Port Authority has been busy lately, buying second-hand New Flyers and Gilligs. Could be them.

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Can this thread be re-named? I would create another thread for the other TAs in Connecticut, but that just seems wasteful of space, in addition to the fact that all the other TAs in CT have 20 buses or less.

Connecticut Transit

And it appears that I was wrong. The 1600 XD40 series stops at 1626, as when I "visited" the Hartford Garage, all I saw outside were 1700 XD40s and 1600 MCIs. Whoops.

And a bus cleaner I know who works for CTtransit says that 123-126 aren't retired yet. 124 and 125 have been saved for MNRR Bustitutions, and 123, 126 etc see regular service.

Idk where 1480 came from, but in the 2 years I have been venturing around Connecticut, I have never seen a 1480. Otherwise, it would be in a body shop at DATTCO or on the 928, where they regularly put their 2014s.

Speaking of 2014s, I got my first 2014 LFSA V.I.N.

35930142215_0b2e9e4dfc_k.jpgCTtransit 1429 by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

As well as my first local XDE40. It's quite blurry though, so I typed it out.

5FYH8FR14DC045863

SEAT

And SEAT's 2008 New Flyers are numbered 801-802. Not 803-805, because none of these numbers have appeared on their tracker site. (https://seatbuslive.com/map)

Middletown Area Transit

I'm glad to see the newer Gilligs are getting added, however, the 2012 models they have were omitted. (JA104D, 3007-3008)

I've gotten chances to get most of the VINs. 3007 is a tricky one.

27314959430_dcc83435a9_k.jpgOMSI Textures by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

That's 3008 ^^

 

34530196320_bd6e12573a_k.jpgOMSI Textures by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

JA104D. I've asked about the JA---D part, and apparently it means job access.

 

 

 

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Started service last Sunday.

 

36413138641_d70ede6914_k.jpgCTtransit 2017 MCI D4500CT #1677 on Route 913 Express by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

35716138004_52499652ac_k.jpgCTtransit 1677 - Builders Plate by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

36413075351_f2eb3fa7db_k.jpgCTtransit 2017 MCI D4500CT #1677 on Route 913 Express - Interior by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

 

With 57 seats, it has USBs, WiFi, and sports a Cummins ISX EPA 2013, with Allison B500R6 as the only choice for a transmission.

 

And SEAT 

 

36436132495_f2715fbd1b_k.jpgSEAT 2006 Gillig Advantage 29' #558 on Route 3 by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

36436129585_9dca2555f1_k.jpgSEAT 558 - Builders Plate by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

In other news, as XD40s 1730 and up continue arriving, several 400s have been placed at the North Main Street garage.

36576120676_477081a6b9_k.jpgIMG_7810 by Xavier Trofisher, on Flickr

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The 5th gen buses have started to reach New Haven. 1750 started service on Wednesday, with another 50 coming to replace all of the 2001 and 2003 D40LFs (1749-1799). A few months following this, another 31 will replace the last of New Haven's 2004 D40LF. (About a year, give or take a few months). After 1749 and 1750 arrived, 107 and 340 were decommissioned and given their sending away "party". By then, New Haven will have switched to the three-digit numbering scheme. As the routes, fareboxes are setup with the appropriate hard and software, New Haven's current fleet will be transformed into an almost completely new image, where the centerpiece will be Cummins, after a 30+ year reign by Detroit Diesel. 

 

Here is 1769 at the North Main Street Garage. I believe this was delivered either yesterday or today.

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Just arrived in New Haven this week, will be staying for a year. Coming from Calgary, neat to note the similarities overall with the fleet there (Nova artics being the exception - we only have artic New Flyers). Really pleased to see the cloth-covered cushioned seats on the D40LFs, and the unexpected bonus of air conditioning while maintaining openable windows. Are there any particularly noteworthy units I should keep an eye out for in terms of nearing their retirement date and with distinctive features?

Also, a little amused at the "no standing" bus stop signs - took me a few seconds before I realized they referred to car parking!

Attached: quick phone crop of 1046 on my first morning here.

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