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According to PT's Facebook, they pulled coaches out of their reserve fleet that have AC and placed them into service. One Bus Away confirms 8020 8021 8023 8024 8028 8029 8031-8035 8043 8056 8066 were out and about today.

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It just blows my mind to see such young heavy duty buses already retired. But I understand why PT has done this though. I wonder if any Transit will pick up these little 30 foot CNG buses... Should be interesting to see where they end up.

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The list of service cuts coming in Sept '13 are now posted at:

http://www.piercetransit.org/service-route-impacts.htm

Of note:

  • Route 1 has Short Turn trips at Parkland TC (Every other trip off peak and weekends)
  • Routes 41, 42, 400, 501 have some trips that terminate at Tacoma Dome Station Off Peak and Weekends
  • Route 400 is extended to Pierce College, on a 90 minute headway (I don't think this will go over well)
  • Route 501 Terminates in Milton, Route 402 has *some* Mid-Day Trips that terminate in Milton
  • Weekend service has a LOT of weird scheduling and routing tricks. ("Peak hour" Weekend service on several routes, for one or both days)
  • Weekend 500 Short Turns at S. Federal Way P&R
  • Weekend 402 Runs from South Hill TC to Milton only (?)

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Is PT even using any C30LFs anymore?

I don't ever see them, and they sold a few of the '04s. As I understand, they wouldn't be eligible for the replacement funding unless the buses are 500,000 miles or 12 years old. I have no idea what the miles are on those coaches, but I don't think the 30's would be near 500,000.

And, what are they doing with the Phantoms? I don't see them on the road anymore.

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316-317, 320-321, 324-329 All are or have been active in the past few days according to one bus away. I saw one of the 8000s on the freeway the other day doing some kind of road test.

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I guess I forgot how they seem to like to have a rather large "reserve" fleet too. It wasn't until a couple years ago that they sold the rest of the 800s. I guess it's a good idea, considering what happens when their primary CNG fuel source is not available.

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Is PT even using any C30LFs anymore?

I don't ever see them, and they sold a few of the '04s. As I understand, they wouldn't be eligible for the replacement funding unless the buses are 500,000 miles or 12 years old. I have no idea what the miles are on those coaches, but I don't think the 30's would be near 500,000.

And, what are they doing with the Phantoms? I don't see them on the road anymore.

They regularly run on the 51, 56, 62, 100 and 496. According to Appendix D of the PT 2011 - 2016 Transit Development Plan the mileages of 300 - 304 were between 265K and 280K. The information was as of 12/16/11. By then all were out of service due to the fueling station fire and service cutbacks.

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http://www.piercetransit.org/pdfs/board-agendas/2013/BOC-Packet-3-11-13.pdf' rel="external nofollow">

It would appear that PT intends to dispose of some more equipment. 22 buses, and 32 Ford/Eldorado Aerotech's
1998 New Flyer C40LF's 140-145
2000 New Flyer C40LF's 146
2004 New Flyer C30LF's 305-319
2004 Ford Aerotech's 5001-5004, 5007, 5009-5016, 5030, 5033, 5040, 5042, 5045, 5046, 5049
2005 Ford Aerotech's 5064-5066, 5068, 5070, 5072, 5074, 5800 (Ex Bus Plus)
2007 Ford Aerotech's 5810-12, 5816 (Ex Bus Plus)

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That's ultimately going to put them at minus 46 C40LFs?

They only got 10 of the new Gilligs in '11, so what's replacing all the retirees? I wouldn't think they would be putting the 8000s in regular service, as they are so high in miles. Then again, you never know.

And then there's the other ST '99 Gilligs that were displaced by the 9200s. They haven't popped up at any auctions yet.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

LINK Transit in Wenatchee, WA is picking up 6 9000 series gilligs from Sound Transit

http://www.linktrans...BoardPacket.pdf

See page #21

Also looks like Ben Franklin Transit is getting more coaches from ST as well.

http://www.bft.org/f...les/9132013.pdf

16 buses; although they dont give any specifics.

I'm guessing this is where they have gone...

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

LINK Transit in Wenatchee, WA is picking up 6 9000 series gilligs from Sound Transit

http://www.linktrans...BoardPacket.pdf

See page #21

Also looks like Ben Franklin Transit is getting more coaches from ST as well.

http://www.bft.org/f...les/9132013.pdf

16 buses; although they dont give any specifics.

I'm guessing this is where they have gone...

We got purple monsters, not 8000's. They have been in service for a while now. The PT mirror stickers are still on, cross-eyed and all..

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