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2015 New Flyer XN40 CNG #1930 has been repaired and is back in service from an engine fire it had this past winter. Meanwhile, 2009 Orion 7.501 Next Generation CNGs #1716 and #1719 are now retired out of Mitchell Field Depot and are off the roster. About 55 units remain.

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Other 2009 Orion 7.501 NG CNGs include #1724, #1739-1740 in addition to #1769. If not mentioned,  #1744 is also done too. Remaining 2004 Orion 5.501 CNGs left to be scrapped includes #1648-1649, #1696-1697, #1673, and 1 other one I don't recall. All these buses are at Cedar Creek. 

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2009 Orion 7.501 Next Generation CNGs #1721, #1725, #1730, #1762, #1765, #1768, #1781, #1783, 1794, and #1799 are all now retired from MF depot. #1769 is still active. 26 1700s remain in service. 

Also, 2021 Gillig Advantage BRT Plus CNGs #2059 and #2060 have been delivered and are being prepped for service. 

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Super rare indeed, and granted this probably will never happen again.., but 2009 Orion 7.501 NG CNG #1737 is working on n40/n41 right now as of Saturday 11/20/2021 at 8:20am! Anyone out in Nassau trying to catch these last few Gems, it's out right now. Been a while since a 2009 NG CNG was out on a weekend....

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A base order of 6 NFI battery-electric XE40 for NICE, with options for up to 30 more.

 

https://www.newflyer.com/2021/11/new-yorks-nice-orders-up-to-36-zero-emission-xcelsior-charge-ng-transit-buses-from-nfis-new-flyer/

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New York’s NICE orders up to 36 zero-emission Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ transit buses from NFI’s New Flyer
NICE becomes New York State’s seventh agency to purchase New Flyer zero-emission buses

St. Cloud, Minnesota, USA – November 17, 2021: (TSX: NFI, OTC: NFYEF) NFI Group Inc. (“NFI” or the “Company”), a leading independent bus and coach manufacturer and a leader in electric mass mobility solutions, today announced that its subsidiary New Flyer of America Inc. has received new contract from the Nassau Inter County Express (“NICE”) for six battery-electric Xcelsior CHARGE NG™40-foot transit buses. The five-year contract includes options for up to 30 battery-electric Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ 40-foot transit buses.

With the order, NICE becomes the seventh agency in New York State to purchase zero-emission buses from New Flyer. NICE is the local bus system serving Nassau County, parts of western Suffolk County, and eastern portions Queens, New York, providing over 20 million passenger trips per year.

“NFI is steadily increasing its EV presence on the east coast, and this is directly due to aggressive zero-emission leadership and action by transit agencies across New York State,” said Paul Soubry, President and Chief Executive Officer, NFI. “NICE is an established leader in sustainable mobility and continues to build momentum. Since 2015, NFI has delivered 115 low-emission compressed natural gas buses to NICE. Together, through the transition from low to zero-emission mobility, we’re building cleaner, quieter, more livable communities across Long Island – with the added benefit of each EV delivering up to $125,000 in maintenance savings and up to $400,000 in fuel savings over its 12-year vehicle lifespan. This is smart mobility in motion.”

New Flyer’s Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ battery-electric buses provide up to 525kWh of power and 250 miles of range on a single charge. Introduced in 2021, the Xcelsior CHARGE NG™ bus incorporates three distinct technology advancements, including high-energy batteries that extend range up to 13%, advanced protective battery packaging for easy install and simpler serviceability, and a new lightweight electric traction drive system with up to 90% energy recovery. For more information, visit newflyer.com/ng

“Nassau Inter-County Express has selected New Flyer as our new battery-electric bus vendor,” said Jack Khzouz, Chief Executive Officer, NICE. “We plan on deploying these energy-efficient vehicles for the launch of our new bus rapid transit (BRT) system, which will provide Nassau County with zero emissions travel between new lifestyle and employment centers. They will help NICE improve accessibility and connectivity within Nassau County.”

 

 

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3 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

A base order of 6 NFI battery-electric XE40 for NICE, with options for up to 30 more.

 

https://www.newflyer.com/2021/11/new-yorks-nice-orders-up-to-36-zero-emission-xcelsior-charge-ng-transit-buses-from-nfis-new-flyer/

 

Based on this article, it sounds like it's a done deal and that NICE bus will be taking the option order in addition to the base order. Seems like these buses will be for fleet expansion as by the time these show up, all the Orion 7.501 NG CNGs and Orion 7.501 EPA10 3G CNGs will be retired and replaced by the upcoming option orders of Gillig Advantage BRT Plus CNGs that are also on the way. NICE may need to seriously consider building a 3rd depot for what would basically be an entirely separate fleet of buses from the CNGs. 

Moreover, the timing is interesting considering that the MTA had also just recently placed an order for XE40 Charge NG buses. Wonder if this is a joint venture between the 2 TAs? Very interesting. 

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The 2021 Gillig Advantage BRT Plus CNG order is nearing completion with units  #2070 and #2071 on the way to NICE. #2062-2069 also in transit and/or delivered to Micheal Field Depot. Get your last rides on the 2009 Orion 7.501 NG CNGs,  because they will probably be out of here by year's end. 

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Also and this is a shocker, but now it seems like NICE is getting ready to move on to the 2011 NG CNGs too as 2010 Orion 7.501 Next Generation CNG #1800, has been retired out of Mitchell Field Depot. WTH is this bus even retired??

Way too young, only 11 years old.

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On 11/23/2021 at 6:39 PM, GojiMet86 said:

A base order of 6 NFI battery-electric XE40 for NICE, with options for up to 30 more.

 

https://www.newflyer.com/2021/11/new-yorks-nice-orders-up-to-36-zero-emission-xcelsior-charge-ng-transit-buses-from-nfis-new-flyer/

 

The 2021 Gillig Advantage BRT Plus CNG order is almost finished,  as units #2062-2072 have all been delivered over the last few days and are being prepped for service.  Only #2073-2079 (7 more units) remain before the base order is complete unless NICE gives Gillig the go ahead to build the first option of possibly 2022 Gillig Advantage BRT Plus CNGs #2080-2119. If so, then the 2011 Orion 7.501 NG CNGs will be on borrowed time as would the Next Generation model as a whole with NICE bus.

As mentioned yesterday,  #1800 (the 2010 pilot bus for the 2011 order) now retired out of Mitchell Field Depot. 

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As of now, these are the remaining 2009-2011 NG CNGs in revenue service: #1728-29, #1737, #1756, #1764, #1766, #1769-70, #1776, #1782, #1787-89, #1795, #1801-03, and #1805-39 (49 units). #1785, and #1797 are system reserve buses. When adding the 45 2012-13 Orion 7.501 EPA10 3G CNGs, that totals 94 O7 CNGs left in service out of MF depot,  still a somewhat plentiful fleet, but obviously nowhere as dominant as they used to be just a year ago. The New Flyer XN40 Xcelsior CNGs are now the backbone of NICE with 110 units active (#1930 is now back in service from it's fire earlier in the year), though once the first option of BRT Plus CNGs get here (which honestly might be sooner rather than later), they will take the spot. This is not including the second option of 45 BRT Plus CNGs for later down the road.

 

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