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New 2014 Gillig Low Floors are in service- Had a chance to ride 6021 today. Same as most other Gilligs, but with the same new seats as the XD60s

Cool.

Any word on replacements for the Mallride shuttles?

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Cobus, Van Hool, BYD, and Proterra all are interested in bidding. Interestingly, RTD will accept a 40' bus if everybody fits. http://io.questcdn.com/questio/action/pdfViewer?jobNo=3406584&itemIndex=3526059&page=0

Thanks for the link. EPV is also included. Who the heck will make the buse with right hand drive? (perhaps thats no problem for the Europeans) And capable of running at negative 35 degrees F? Will that eliminate pure battery buses? Also a single level floor. Wow.

I think epv (ex DesignLine) is the front runner. As far as I know they don't have any other work and they have built these buses before.

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Thanks for the link. epv is also included. Who the heck will make the buse with right hand drive? (perhaps thats no problem for the Europeans) And capable of running at negative 35 degrees F? Will that eliminate pure battery buses? Also a single level floor. Wow.

I think epv (ex DesignLine) is the front runner. As far as I know they don't have any other work and they have built these buses before.

All Mallride buses are RHD because of the improved safety concerns and the ability to operate the wheelchair ramp. The last time there was a LHD bus, drivers took issue with it. That and the all low-floor bus is why this has been such a headache.

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A few updates and observations:

XD60s through 9350 and Gillig LFs through 6057 have been spotted at RTD's District Shops. It appears the XD60s are going to East Metro first, then Platte. the Gillig LFs are starting with Platte, and then will be disbursed to Boulder/East Metro/FT/Veolia.

RTD has also announced the name for the US36 Denver-Boulder "BRT." http://rtd-fastracks.com/us36_25

Spotted this on MallRIde Shuttle 1634. Fun to see RTD's maintainece personnel having some pride.

RTD_DS_Skunkworks.JPG

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PUB Transit, thanks for the photo! Props to all involved in that retrofit project. I'm impressed.

About the Mall shuttle bids, thats big news Mr. T. Can't wait to find out more.

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The RTD only received two bids for their 45ft Mall Shuttle bus contract...BYD and some other company Shaw International Inc?...I' m surprised that EPV didn't submit one.

This is Shaw International: http://lzbusline.com/index.html

They seem like a major competitor to BYD with no current US transit bus capability. I'd bet on BYD, assuming the board doesn't meddle.

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PUB Transit, thanks for the info...I see that Shaw International Inc represents two Chinese bus manufacturers--BonLuck and King Long bus...interesting, King Long has a model, XMQ6140B, that is a speciality vehicle that may be what the RTD is looking at.

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Curious, what are the units for the Orion V for the Allison B400R and the ZF 6HP592?

And, the Neoplan AN445, are they powered by Series 60 or Cummins ISM?

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Does anyone know how many of those Gillig BRT HEV's there are in Denver RTD's fleet and what year the are from?


Curious, what are the units for the Orion V for the Allison B400R and the ZF 6HP592?

And, the Neoplan AN445, are they powered by Series 60 or Cummins ISM?

I think all of the Orion V's have 6HP592C's and the Neoplan AN345/3's all have Cummins ISM's.


RTD also has a handful of Gillig BRT hybrids:

Finally, here's one of RTD's retired 1994 Gilligs with Series 50 + ZF, now in service for the University of Colorado.

Do you know what year those hybrids are from and how many are there? Also, is there any chance that some of those 1994 Phantoms are still running for the university?

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I think all of the Orion V's have 6HP592C's and the Neoplan AN345/3's all have Cummins ISM's.

No, cause I remember they've ordered some Allison B400R for small batch. Was how many did they ordered with Allison.

Here's a video of the AN445, sounds more like a truck to me!

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Does anyone know how many of those Gillig BRT HEV's there are in Denver RTD's fleet and what year the are from?

I think all of the Orion V's have 6HP592C's and the Neoplan AN345/3's all have Cummins ISM's.

Do you know what year those hybrids are from and how many are there? Also, is there any chance that some of those 1994 Phantoms are still running for the university?

No, cause I remember they've ordered some Allison B400R for small batch. Was how many did they ordered with Allison.

Here's a video of the AN445, sounds more like a truck to me!

4 2006 HEVs-All at Platte

5 2008 HEVs-2 in Boulder, 3 At East Metro.

About 20-25 of the Orions have Allisons, the first batch.

The Neoplans are DD60s.

I believe CU has one or two of the Phantoms running-I see them on occasion.

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4 2006 HEVs-All at Platte

5 2008 HEVs-2 in Boulder, 3 At East Metro.

About 20-25 of the Orions have Allisons, the first batch.

The Neoplans are DD60s.

I believe CU has one or two of the Phantoms running-I see them on occasion.

Thank you. Are the fleet numbers 1401-1409?

They weren't repowered with ISM's?

Oh okay.

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4 2006 HEVs-All at Platte

5 2008 HEVs-2 in Boulder, 3 At East Metro.

About 20-25 of the Orions have Allisons, the first batch.

The Neoplans are DD60s.

I believe CU has one or two of the Phantoms running-I see them on occasion.

Thank you, it's more than 25, more like in around 60-70 with Allison.

I don't know how long the Neoplan AN445 will last on the road as they are continue to replace with MCI. Interesting S60 sound with Jake Brake!

Thank you, it's more than 25, more like in around 60-70 with Allison.

I don't know how long the Neoplan AN445 will last on the road as they are continue to replace with MCI. Interesting S60 sound with Jake Brake! I think RTD is the only system that continues to run with AN445 as Port Authority retired pretty much all of it!

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Thank you. Are the fleet numbers 1401-1409?

They weren't repowered with ISM's?

They hybrids are the 1400 series. Special paint scheme touting enviromental benefits.

The AN345s are still Detroit Diesels. RTD doesn't tend to do midlife fleet overhauls/repowerings.

I don't know how long the Neoplan AN445 will last on the road as they are continue to replace with MCI. Interesting S60 sound with Jake Brake!

They'll be around until at least 2016, when the next batch of MCIs (or a proper BRT bus for the Boulder/Denver BRT) arrives. They'll probably stay around for a good deal longer, as Boulder/Denver is a small part of RTD's reigonal ops. While the BRT will free up a bunch of MCIs/Neoplans, Neoplans do a lot of the driving on 36.

Plus, some of the 1900s (1997 MCIs) are reguarly used as reserve coaches. Eventually, the Neoplans will fill that role too.

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I understand RTD has their own City + 2 different contractors for their system, is that still happening today?

That's the basics, yes.

In more Detail:

RTD has three bus divisions (Platte, East Metro and Boulder) and one Rail Division (Elati). They subcontract some local and express services.

First Transit: Has three "divisions" in the RTD Run cuts. FT Denver, FT Commerce City, and FT North. FT North's garage is in Longmont (about 10 miles NW of Boulder), and runs pretty much only in Boulder/Longmont. FT Commerce City and FT Denver run throughout the Denver Metro area. Commerce City has a different USDOT Number than FT North/Denver, because it's the former Laidlaw operation.

Transdev (Formerly Veolia): They operate all over the Denver Metro.

The commuter rail lines will be operated by Denver Transit Partners, a private company that was formed to build/operate those lines.

Paratransit and Call-and-Ride services are exclusively outsourced, to Via Mobility, MV Transportation and Horizon Coach Lines.

  • 4 weeks later...
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A few more updates:

All three RTD divisions (Platte, E. Metro, and Boulder) all have the 6000-series Gilligs. Haven't seen any with contractors yet.

Some of the 1900-series 102-DL3s are still in active service, and are receiving CAD/AVL systems. Third week in a row where the GS has had a 1900 with the new CAD/AVL.

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There were some rumblings about the Mall Shuttles, but that seems to be a lower priority. Not sure if it's behinds the scenes with the manufactures, or the contracting people are slow-walking it so the project isn't a sacrificial lamb for the directors who are unhappy with the current mall funding agreement.

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