FlyerD901 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Correct, Guilty till proven innocent. And if you innocent, relax, enjoy your month off, they will compensate you. If your guilty. Its hard to get another job, especially when they see TTC on your resume. The first question will literally be, how the fuck did you lose this job. http://m.torontosun....pplying-make-up There's no set amount of accidents its case by case. I've seen guys fired for cell phones use too. One guy had his face resting in his hand while operating a streetcar, a customer called it in as him talking on his cell. He was pulled off the road and fired, he actually had to bring his phone records to prove his innocence. Guilty till proven innocent in ttc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforparry Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Correct, Guilty till proven innocent. And if you innocent, relax, enjoy your month off, they will compensate you. If your guilty. Its hard to get another job, especially when they see TTC on your resume. The first question will literally be, how the fuck did you lose this job. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttc102 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Hi any body can give advice abt job shadowing and face to face interview?anybody from 30th janu,2014 (info session) get result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttc102 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Hi I want to know that what type of question we should ask the operaters in Job shadow time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMESSIAH Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 As far as I know you shouldn't be asking the operators anything. That was changed. Or was it changed back? I did the job shadow exercise several months ago and they emphasized that you DO NOT say anything to the drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Hi I want to know that what type of question we should ask the operaters in Job shadow time? the purpose of the job shadowing assignment is to get an insight as to what it is like to be an operator. Having said that, you may want to ask the operators how to deal with difficult customers, cope with split shift, driving in various conditions (with snow accumulting on the ground, how to climb a hill covered with snow, etc). As far as I know you shouldn't be asking the operators anything. That was changed. Or was it changed back? I did the job shadow exercise several months ago and they emphasized that you DO NOT say anything to the drivers. each applicant has a different assignment. I had to conduct interview with 10 operators with fewer questions to ask whereas the person beside me had to interview 5 operators. However he has to ask more questions than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMESSIAH Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 the purpose of the job shadowing assignment is to get an insight as to what it is like to be an operator. Having said that, you may want to ask the operators how to deal with difficult customers, cope with split shift, driving in various conditions (with snow accumulting on the ground, how to climb a hill covered with snow, etc). each applicant has a different assignment. I had to conduct interview with 10 operators with fewer questions to ask whereas the person beside me had to interview 5 operators. However he has to ask more questions than I do. oh well my whole session was told. You don't talk to them anymore. I also heard that they didn't want people disrupting drivers anymore, which may be wrong, I don't know. They just wanted us to ride and observe and take notes. Its kind of a stupid practice if you ask me. They send applicants in the hundreds onto their buses to distract their own drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtdfb0 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 As far as I know you shouldn't be asking the operators anything. That was changed. Or was it changed back? I did the job shadow exercise several months ago and they emphasized that you DO NOT say anything to the drivers. I was on the Yonge blue night at about 4am omw back down to my car when one man came on with his TTC info booklet and started barreling questions at the operator. The operator wasn't hesitant to answer questions but when I did my routes I chatted casually with some of the operators or I didn't chat at all with others. You don't need to identify yourself to get an idea of what they do. Talk casually and ask them questions. They'll tell you what you want to know without ever giving them a hint. Some of them even talked to me without any precursor for a convo. Hi I want to know that what type of question we should ask the operaters in Job shadow time? Make observations, take notes on how the operator interacts with each customer, what direction you're going in, how fast, temperature, time of day etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMESSIAH Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I was on the Yonge blue night at about 4am omw back down to my car when one man came on with his TTC info booklet and started barreling questions at the operator. The operator wasn't hesitant to answer questions but when I did my routes I chatted casually with some of the operators or I didn't chat at all with others. You don't need to identify yourself to get an idea of what they do. Talk casually and ask them questions. They'll tell you what you want to know without ever giving them a hint. Some of them even talked to me without any precursor for a convo. Make observations, take notes on how the operator interacts with each customer, what direction you're going in, how fast, temperature, time of day etc... Hey I was ecstatic when they said don't talk to anyone it made the task way easier just sit and take notes of observations no problem. I was dreading cramming onto a blue night and standing at the front asking goofy questions so I was happy. But you going after me did they actually ask you to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtdfb0 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Hey I was ecstatic when they said don't talk to anyone it made the task way easier just sit and take notes of observations no problem. I was dreading cramming onto a blue night and standing at the front asking goofy questions so I was happy. But you going after me did they actually ask you to do that? Yeah, they said to interact if we would like to but don't indicate that you're a candidate for a position with the TTC. I mean you know they don't want that because the operator being questioned will either tell you how he/she really feels about the job or they'll feed that candidate a bunch of BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforparry Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Yeah, they said to interact if we would like to but don't indicate that you're a candidate for a position with the TTC. I mean you know they don't want that because the operator being questioned will either tell you how he/she really feels about the job or they'll feed that candidate a bunch of BS. I told all the operators what I was up to. I didn't do the shadowing assignment until after the e-mail inviting me to a face to face Interview (In Dec for a Feb interview). I was given 2 months notice thankfully. It was difficult only when the operator showed no interest in my agenda. I had to improvise on 2 of my routes because of this, both the blue night bus and streetcar had nothing to offer in the way of chit chat. I was out all night and was able to come up with my own observations that related to the questions I was to answer. As for the interview, just no your work history really well and be prepared to give specific examples on a variety of topics. Most importantly, be honest. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMESSIAH Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I told all the operators what I was up to. I didn't do the shadowing assignment until after the e-mail inviting me to a face to face Interview (In Dec for a Feb interview). I was given 2 months notice thankfully. It was difficult only when the operator showed no interest in my agenda. I had to improvise on 2 of my routes because of this, both the blue night bus and streetcar had nothing to offer in the way of chit chat. I was out all night and was able to come up with my own observations that related to the questions I was to answer. As for the interview, just no your work history really well and be prepared to give specific examples on a variety of topics. Most importantly, be honest. Hope this helps. It's a good thing I didn't have to talk to them. I probably would have just said screw it and not. I almost didn't go just to observe and take notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 You have to be smart about it, TTC says to not talk to the operators, but obviously go ask the driver quesions, get some pointers, just don't mention you had a convo with the operator on your assignment, simple. I would find it easier to ask the operators than to just observe. Even if they give you a cold shoulder some people have the skill to get through the brick wall and get answers. Experince and personality will get you pass that, most times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforparry Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 You have to be smart about it, TTC says to not talk to the operators, but obviously go ask the driver quesions, get some pointers, just don't mention you had a convo with the operator on your assignment, simple. I would find it easier to ask the operators than to just observe. Even if they give you a cold shoulder some people have the skill to get through the brick wall and get answers. Experince and personality will get you pass that, most times. Yes I met a couple of gems out there...1 that sticks out was on Don Mills...very helpful. In fact I plan to thank him one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Most new drivers would be friendly seeing as how they just went through the process and can relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian1 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Yes, one of the key personality they look for when recruiting operators are social and friendly people. In theory, most drivers would have people skills. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Just to emphasize, in theory. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMESSIAH Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Observing was easy. Just wrote down everything I saw. Driver helped woman with carriage, driver announced stops, driver drove extra cautious because of snow. Assignment done lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforparry Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Most new drivers would be friendly seeing as how they just went through the process and can relate. This guy had 7 years in and helped me lift my confidence a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Why was the Operator calling all the stop? AA wasn't working? Observing was easy. Just wrote down everything I saw. Driver helped woman with carriage, driver announced stops, driver drove extra cautious because of snow. Assignment done lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMESSIAH Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Why was the Operator calling all the stop? AA wasn't working? Guess not. On one of the blue nights driver announced some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Guess not. On one of the blue nights driver announced some. Even more to write about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforparry Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Even more to write about. Funny, my blue nite announce stop request not working so passengers needed to come to the front to request a stop then it started working but he forgot to announce that lol...4 months in and easy to forget when you are concentrating on the foot of snow that fell that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian1 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I talked to a 60 year old operator working for TTC for over 20 years old on my job shadowing. Im surprised he hasn't retired yet. Had he invested his money, he coulda retired years ago. Oh well lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforparry Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I talked to a 60 year old operator working for TTC for over 20 years old on my job shadowing. Im surprised he hasn't retired yet. Had he invested his money, he coulda retired years ago. Oh well lol did you ask him if he invested his money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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