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TransLink Future - Dream's and Aspirations

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Send all the Novas to Surrey/Richmond/North Van and replace them with something from New Flyer. XD(E)40s perhaps.

Expand the electric trolley system to go further into Burnaby.

Expand the CNG fleet, equip the upcoming HTC with CNG fueling/maintenance facilities. <<< (I know this will never happen, but that's why it's in the Dreams thread. :()

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Blech, Novas in Richmond. If/when that happens I swear I am moving and never coming back.

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Blech, Novas in Richmond. If/when that happens I swear I am moving and never coming back.

At least they wouldn't have to climb any hills.

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Some ideas:

89 Metrotown Station - Langara-49th Station (Express)

Runs every 10 min. between 6am-10am and 3pm-7pm (49 will run every 10 min. during the peak periods) MON-FRI

Stops for pick-up and drop-off at the following stops:

Metrotown Station

Tyne & 49th.

Kerr & 49th.

Elliott & 49th.

Victoria & 49th.

Knight & 49th.

Fraser & 49th.

Main & 49th.

Manitoba & 49th.

Langara-49th. Station

485 SFU - Richmond-Brighouse Station (Express)

Runs every 15 min. between 7am-10am (To SFU only) and between 3pm-7pm (To Richmond only) MON-FRI

Stops for pick-up and drop-off at the following stops:

AM

Richmond-Brighouse Station

Lansdowne At Cooney

Garden City At Lansdowne

HWY 91 Offramp At Cliveden Ave

HWY 91A At Howes St (Along Queensborough Bridge, Columbia St., North Rd.)

North Rd. At Lougheed Hwy.

SFU Transportation Centre

SFU Transit Exchange

PM

SFU Transit Exchange

Tower Rd. At University High St.

Campus Rd. At Science Rd.

SFU Transportation Centre

University Dr. At Campus Rd.

North Rd. At Lougheed Hwy. (Along North Rd., Columbia St., Queensborough Bridge)

HWY 91A At Howes St.

HWY 91 Offramp At Cliveden Ave.

Garden City Rd. At Alderbridge

Lansdowne At Kwantlen

Richmond-Brighouse Station

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what about a bus going over into washington state like bellingham? transit windsor has the tunnel bus...a ontario transit bus going to detroit,mi

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what about a bus going over into washington state like bellingham? transit windsor has the tunnel bus...a ontario transit bus going to detroit,mi

That's the great idea, I hope 321 or 375 can extend into washington state like bellingham~~

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That's the great idea, I hope 321 or 375 can extend into washington state like bellingham~~

if it did id take it

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I think YVR also runs their own free South Terminal shuttle, although I don't know for sure :P

I'll edit up the map later tonight with the ideas :P

As for the deviation on Millard Road, it looked public from goggle maps, I'm assuming it isn't? B)

The north-south roads that branch off of Miller are public, at least in the sense that you can drive down them without going through any gates. But I don't know about that east-west road, I have a feeling it's not much bigger than a laneway. :P I've never actually been down there with my car other than to pick up a package from FedEx once (which happened to be my Canon 5D arriving from New York three years ago!.

The South Terminal Shuttle you see running around at YVR is the one run by Pacific Coastal. They have a couple of different minibuses, some of which have Pacific Coastal insignia on them but I think the rest are just marked "South Terminal". I'm not really sure how it works, perhaps YVR contracts Pacific Coastal to run the service since Pacific Coastal is the primary tenant at the south terminal.

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pacific Coastal does own their own shuttle buses and provide shuttles to who knows where. Since my dad flies out of south terminal often, i tag along to see where these shuttles go. Pretty much they're a shuttle to hotels or YVR im guessing.

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Even though I no longer live in Vancouver, I will add my comments to this section anyway.

To create an express bus along 49th Avenue without changing the service much, they could route the 430 over the Oak St. Bridge and then to 49th and then down 49th to Metrotown making stops at all the main roads and bypassing Champlain Heights. Then to account for the decreased service on Bridgeport, run every 407 along Bridgeport from Steveston instead of alternating trips. Alternating 407s could travel through the peak hour loop during peak hours, while the other trips would bypass that loop and stay on Bridgeport.

As a previous post showed, change all "C" route numbers back to regular route numbers. Who cares if the bus is operated with shuttles or not, it is still a service. Besides, there is an increasing number of "C" routes using big buses now anyway (and a few vice-versa).

Add a route along East 1st Avenue in Vancouver. I think this would work best by extending the C21 and C23 (whatever the new number would be) out to either Brentwood Station or Gilmore Station. If they still used two route numbers, I think this would still work on 1st -- 61 westbound and 63 eastbound or something. Better yet, make them both route 1 and have "spurs" travelling slightly different routes with the common part being from the eastern terminus to Yaletown.

Change the routes on Sea Island as follows:

423 (or C90) -- stays on Sea Island and serves the south Airport and Templeton Station, but travels in peak hours to the UPS building on the north Island via Templeton Station.

425 (or C92) -- travels from Bridgeport Station on the current C92 routing but have alternating trips serve Burkeville and the others serve BCIT during the peak hours. During the off-peak hours, there could be no service to Burkeville, and all the trips would go to BCIT. Also during the peak hours (while there are trips to Burkeville), all BCIT trips could use 40-footers and the Burkeville trips shuttles. These could be two different route numbers, but this would work too. This way, anyone travelling to any part of the "airport" whether it be the main terminal or the south terminal would use the YVR branch of the Canada Line as they would get off at Templeton for the south Terminal and the main YVR Station for the main terminal.

I have many more, but I will post them later.

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To create an express bus along 49th Avenue without changing the service much, they could route the 430 over the Oak St. Bridge and then to 49th and then down 49th to Metrotown making stops at all the main roads and bypassing Champlain Heights. Then to account for the decreased service on Bridgeport, run every 407 along Bridgeport from Steveston instead of alternating trips. Alternating 407s could travel through the peak hour loop during peak hours, while the other trips would bypass that loop and stay on Bridgeport.

I agree with you 100%. Although, isn't a good portion of 49th only a 2 lane road, couldn't an 49X (or whatever) get caught behind another 49? B)

As a previous post showed, change all "C" route numbers back to regular route numbers. Who cares if the bus is operated with shuttles or not, it is still a service. Besides, there is an increasing number of "C" routes using big buses now anyway (and a few vice-versa).

Agreed

Add a route along East 1st Avenue in Vancouver. I think this would work best by extending the C21 and C23 (whatever the new number would be) out to either Brentwood Station or Gilmore Station. If they still used two route numbers, I think this would still work on 1st -- 61 westbound and 63 eastbound or something. Better yet, make them both route 1 and have "spurs" travelling slightly different routes with the common part being from the eastern terminus to Yaletown.

This is something else that surprises me, there isn't anything along that corridor.

Chris Cassidy

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Add a route along East 1st Avenue in Vancouver. I think this would work best by extending the C21 and C23 (whatever the new number would be) out to either Brentwood Station or Gilmore Station. If they still used two route numbers, I think this would still work on 1st -- 61 westbound and 63 eastbound or something. Better yet, make them both route 1 and have "spurs" travelling slightly different routes with the common part being from the eastern terminus to Yaletown.

Funny you should bring that up, because the C21 wasn't introduced as a new route so much as just the shuttle-ization of an existing route - the old route 1 Beach. Maybe it should be brought back!

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Run double deck for express bus on hwy 1 after project completed

250/257 uses double deck instead, lion's gate/marine dr construction completed, lowest height is 4.32m at park royal, bc rail bridge at marine dr is 4.4m

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250/257 uses double deck instead, lion's gate/marine dr construction completed, lowest height is 4.32m at park royal, bc rail bridge at marine dr is 4.4m

Thats some TIGHT clearances there. I believe an Alexander Dennis E500 is around 4.26m (14' IIRC).

I don't know how high the Glover Road underpass is, but it's pretty low.

Chris Cassidy

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imagine that low center of gravity when ,making those turns and the sway!

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Thats some TIGHT clearances there. I believe an Alexander Dennis E500 is around 4.26m (14' IIRC).

I don't know how high the Glover Road underpass is, but it's pretty low.

Chris Cassidy

I'd heard the exact height of an E500 was 4.39m. But if you are right with the 4.26m, then it should just squeeze under that Glover Road underpass you were talking about. I took a look on Google Street-View, and the lowest height clearance is 4.46m Eastbound. Westbound is 4.52m. Not good for the George Massey though (4.15m clearance).

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Good idea then again how long would it take to change tires?

Only a Vancouverite could see this as a logistical challenge lol!

The low Park Royal point that was aforementioned is being replaced in 2012ish. Maybe your dream will live!!

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This is something else that surprises me, there isn't anything along that corridor.

Chris Cassidy

Yeah. I lived at 1st Avenue and there literally isn't anything worth providing transit service to, that the north-south routes don't already service. It'd only make sense to be used by an express bus to somewhere in Burnaby, but no local stops.

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I second the idea of Enviro 500s on the 257. Especially if the ISM was actually tuned for power and not economy like the ones in Vic are.

I forgot the ISM was cut in 2010... After consulting the wiki, I'd say an E500 equipped with ISX 11.9 litre and Allison B500R would kick all kinds of ass on a highway route. Of course they'd probably go ISL9 if such a pipe dream ever did come to fruition...

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Yeah. I lived at 1st Avenue and there literally isn't anything worth providing transit service to, that the north-south routes don't already service. It'd only make sense to be used by an express bus to somewhere in Burnaby, but no local stops.

1st avenue is mostlty used for buses from BTC to head into service since first ave leads straight down to BTC! The closest route i can see being closest to 1st is the 16 at renfrew!

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Thats some TIGHT clearances there. I believe an Alexander Dennis E500 is around 4.26m (14' IIRC).

I don't know how high the Glover Road underpass is, but it's pretty low.

Chris Cassidy

Officially it's 4.43 m. The warning signage advises all vehicles over 4.3 m to detour around it. There's a good chance that thing is tall enough that it might set off the overheight vehicle warning system.

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1st avenue is mostlty used for buses from BTC to head into service since first ave leads straight down to BTC! The closest route i can see being closest to 1st is the 16 at renfrew!

They only use 1st Avenue between Boundary and Highway 1 (only about 150m of road); I recall there being mention of people living along 1st Ave who were opposing the idea of implementing bus routes there (or even letting buses route through the area "NOT IN SERVICE"). No paddle I have ever seen sends a bus along 1st Avenue West of Highway 1.

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12 UBC/ALMA/RENFREW STN:

This bus would be operated by BTC 40 Footers.

Route:

DEPART RENFREW STN

HEAD WB ON GRANDVIEW HWY TO E 12th AV

HEAD ONTO THE KITSILANO DIVERSION TO W 10th AV

HEAD ONTO UNIVERSITY BLVD TOWARDS UBC LOOP.

Service would be local from Renfrew STN to W 10th AV At ALMA ST which from that point would become Express service to UBC..

Time-Table:

12 UBC:

MONDAY TO FRIDAY:

5:00 AM

5:15 AM

5:30 AM

EVERY 15 MIN UNTIL

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EVERY 8 MIN UNTIL

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*Denotes Trips to UBC During Winter Session only.

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5:05 AM

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Officially it's 4.43 m. The warning signage advises all vehicles over 4.3 m to detour around it. There's a good chance that thing is tall enough that it might set off the overheight vehicle warning system.

Another one would be the CP Rail overpass just before 232nd Street of 4.40m.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=49...118.51,,0,-1.45

Of course if they skip Glover Road they'll skip this one.

Chris Cassidy

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1st avenue is mostlty used for buses from BTC to head into service since first ave leads straight down to BTC! The closest route i can see being closest to 1st is the 16 at renfrew!

The 16, 7, 20, 22 and 27 intersect 1st Ave travelling N-S.

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