cleowin Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hello, So once agian, im hoping to stimulate CPTDB And offer a thread dedicated to your "TransLink" dreams. For Example, Bus Re-organization proposals - Who wants to have more New Flyer DE60LFR's or want a different type of bus. Feel free to post your dreams and aspirations and get this forum rolling! It's been dead for a few months now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'd like the route 491 resurrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouversLocalNerd Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Dreams that have a shot at becoming reality: - Xcelsiors in West Vancouver - Artics in North Van and Surrey. Dreams that have little to no hope of happening: - Return of 98 B-Line (or some modified form of it) to run along side of Canada Line. - Suburban express route running to downtown. - High floor buses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Spent a good chunk of this "morning" chatting with Cleowin on MSN and we both came up with some CRAZY ideas :rage: I'll warn you, the chances of these happening are slim to none 180 Royal Oak Station-UBC Super Express 423 Airport Shuttle (Covers most of the old 424, and the current C92) 237 Brentwood Station-Kootenay Loop-Horseshoe Bay (how long until a bus burns down going up the cut? ) and for George, the return of the 491! Instead of feeding every route/passenger from West Richmond into the Richmond section of the Canada Line, I figured it'd be smart to run some peak hour buses into Templeton Station. Since the YVR section is generally pretty quiet. Chris Cassidy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 133 SFU/ROYAL OAK STN: - Map Courtesy of Chris Cassidy. 133 SFU Stops: DEPART ROYAL OAK STN BAY 2 NB ROYAL OAK AT IMPERIAL ROYAL OAK AT GRIMMER ROYAL OAK AT KINGSWAY ROYAL OAK AT SANDERS ROYAL OAK AT OAKLAND ROYAL OAK AT OAKMOUNT CRES ROYAL OAK AT DEER LAKE PKY ROYAL OAK AV AT GILPIN ROYAL OAK AV AT EGLINTON ROYAL OAK AV AT KINCAID ST EB CANADA WAY AT DUNDONALD ST EB SPROTT ST AT GODWIN AV SPROTT ST AT NORLAND AV SPROTT ST AT KENSINGTON AV NB KENSINGTON AV AT JOE SAKIC WAY SPERLING STN BAY 1 WB BROADWAY AT KENSINGTON AV NB KENSINGTON AV AT DAWSON ST KENSINGTON AV AT PARKCREST DR KENSINGTON AV AT HALIFAX ST KENSINGTON AV AT WINCH ST KENSINGTON AV AT KITCHENER ST KENSINGTON AV AT AUBREY ST EB CURTIS ST AT KENSINGTON AV CURTIS ST AT SPERLING CURTIS ST AT CLIFF CURTIS ST AT SHERLOCK NB DUTHIE AV AT CURTIS ST DUTHIE AV AT UNION ST EB HASTINGS ST AT DUTHIE AVE EB BURNABY MTN PKY AT BURNWOOD DR BURNABY MTN PKY AT CURTIS ST SFU TRANSPORTATION CENTRE BAY 3 SFU TRANSIT EXCHANGE BAY 3 133 ROYAL OAK STN Stops: DEPART SFU TRANSIT EXCHANGE BAY 1 SB TOWER RD AT UNIVERSITY HIGH ST WB CAMPUS RD AT SCIENCE RD SFU TRANSPORTATION CENTRE BAY 1 WB UNIVERSITY DR AT W CAMPUS RD WB BURNABY MTN PKY AT W CAMPUS RD BURNABY MTN PKY AT CURTIS ST BURNABY MTN PKY AT BURNWOOD DR SB DUTHIE AV AT HASTINGS ST DUTHIE AV AT UNION ST WB CURTIS ST AT DUTHIE AV CURTIS ST AT SHERLOCK AV CURTIS ST AT CLIFF AV CURTIS ST AT SPERLING AV SB KENSINGTON AV AT CURTIS ST KENSINGTON AV AT AUBREY ST KENSINGTON AV AT KITCHENER ST KENSINGTON AV AT WINCH ST KENSINGTON AV AT HALIFAX ST AT PARKCREST DR AT DAWSON ST SPERLING STN BAY 1 SB KENSINGTON AV AT JOE SAKIC WAY WB SPROTT ST AT KENSINGTON AV AT NORLAND AV AT GODWIN AV WB CANADA WAY AT DUNDONALD ST SB ROYAL OAK AV AT KINCAID ST AT SPRUCE ST AT ENGLINTON ST AT GILPIN ST AT DEER LAKE PKY AT BUXTON ST AT OAKMOUNT CRES AT DOVER ST AT NEWTON ST AT KINGSWAY AT GRIMMER ST AT IMPERIAL ST ROYAL OAK STN BAY 2 Service Frequencies: Monday - Friday: (Departing from Both Stations) 6 AM 6 30 AM 6 45 AM 7 AM EVERY 15 MIN UNTIL 8 30 AM 8 45 AM 9 AM 9 30 AM 10 AM 10 30 AM EVERY 30 MIN UNTIL 2 PM 2 30 PM 3 PM 3 15 PM 3 30 PM EVERY 15 MIN UNTIL 6 00 PM 6 15 PM 6 30 PM 7 PM 7 30 PM EVERY 30 MIN UNTIL 10 PM 11 PM 12 AM SATURDAY: 7 AM 8 AM 9 AM 9 30 AM 10 AM EVERY 30 MIN UNTIL 6 00 PM 6 30 PM 7 00 PM 7 30 PM 8 00 PM EVERY 30 MIN UNTIL 9 30 PM 10 PM 11 PM 12 AM SUNDAY: 8 AM 9 AM 10 AM 11 AM EVERY 60 MIN UNTIL 7 PM 8 PM 9 PM 10 PM 11 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Speaking of routes, how about a 380 UBC/Scottsdale express? Make it basically the same as the old 311 from Scottsdale as far as Bridgeport Stn, then send it over the bridge and perhaps out Marine Drive to UBC. Would have been much more relevant pre-Canada Line though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CN7059 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Studded tires on a portion of the shuttle fleet. When it snows, use them to run a shuttle service on the hill to SFU, with all conventional buses terminating at the bottom. Voila, no more people trapped on the mountain every time a flake of snow hits the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mira Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Studded tires on a portion of the shuttle fleet. When it snows, use them to run a shuttle service on the hill to SFU, with all conventional buses terminating at the bottom. Voila, no more people trapped on the mountain every time a flake of snow hits the ground. Good idea then again how long would it take to change tires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_harris01 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 the return of the GM Fishbowl i hope i aint alone in that dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mira Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 the return of the GM Fishbowl i hope i aint alone in that dream Agreed big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW Metrobus Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 423 Airport Shuttle (Covers most of the old 424, and the current C92) I like that idea, but the only potential problem I could see cropping up is that Pacific Coastal already runs their own (free) shuttle from the main terminal to the south terminal. Perhaps if the "free fare zone" on the YVR section of the Canada Line were opened up to include the route 423, giving passengers a free ride from any part of the airport to another, it could be made quite attractive and Pacific Coastal could save a few bucks by not having to run their free shuttle anymore (since it doesn't make them any money anyway). The south terminal closes at 6 pm most days, so perhaps the portion of the route that covers the C92 (i.e. the old 425!) could be curtailed either at the Flying Beaver or at BCIT after 6 pm depending on demand. If you rerouted the bus to actually physically enter Templeton Station rather than just turn left from Templeton onto the North Service road, then it could serve another purpose - augment the transportation link between the employee lot and the terminal. Currently the employee shuttle buses only run while the Canada Line isn't running, so when the Canada Line is running on after hours schedule, the employees are shafted with service only once every 12 minutes, which SUCKS. I'm not sure about that little deviation on Miller Road directly south of Sea Island Centre station, it looks like you're getting the bus to drive into Purolator/Fedex... :rage: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidneyTransitfan Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 (I am actually from BC Transit country, so I could boast that I am unbiased... but I won't. LOL If I were in charge of route planning for TransLink, then the following would most likely occur within the first few years of my reign. 1. Route 280: "Horseshoe Bay-Squamish" - Route via Hwy 99, calling at Sunset Beach, Strachan Creek, Lions Bay, Brunswick, Oliver's Landing, Britannia Beach, and Squamish. 2. Route 621: "Tsawwassen Ferry-Langley Centre Express" - Route via Hwy 10 from Ladner Exchange, with limited stops in Surrey and Cloverdale to Langley Centre. 3. Route 710: "Abbotsford-Surrey Central Station Express" - Route via Guildford Exchange to Hwy 1, then Route via South Fraser Way to Bourquin Exchange. 4. Route 711: "Haney Place-Mission Station" - self explanatory. 5. West Coast Express: Bi-directional rail service 7 days a week. Every 30 minutes during peak periods, and every 2 hours in the off-peak. Extension to Chilliwack imposed by 2014. 6. Skytrain Expo/Millennium Lines: Rebuild some stations to have through-tracks in the middle, introducing express service to Skytrain. 7. Canada Line: Leave as-is for time being. 8. Evergreen Line: (When built), trains will run beyond Lougheed Town Centre to VCC Clark, doubling the service along the Millennium Line. New B-Line routes: Once Expansion into Fraser Valley is complete: 801: "Abbotsford-Langley Centre" - Route via Fraser Hwy and Aldergrove, following both present-day ValleyMAX 21 and TransLink 502. 802: "Abbotsford-Tsawwassen Ferry Express" - Route via Fraser Hwy, calling at Aldergrove and Langley Centre, then Route via Hwy 10, running non-stop to Tsawwassen Ferry. 803: "Langley Centre-Chilliwack Express" - Route via Fraser Hwy to Abbotsford, then Route via Hwy 1 to Chilliwack. 805: "Coquitlam Station-Abbotsford Express" - Route via Lougheed Hwy, calling at Shaughnessy St, Pitt Meadows Station, then Route via Golden Ears bridge and Hwy 1 to Abbotsford Bourquin Exchange. All present-day ValleyMAX and Chilliwack-Agassiz routes will be renumbered into the 8xx series. I'll post more later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 (I am actually from BC Transit country, so I could boast that I am unbiased... but I won't. LOL If I were in charge of route planning for TransLink, then the following would most likely occur within the first few years of my reign. 1. Route 280: "Horseshoe Bay-Squamish" - Route via Hwy 99, calling at Sunset Beach, Strachan Creek, Lions Bay, Brunswick, Oliver's Landing, Britannia Beach, and Squamish. 2. Route 621: "Tsawwassen Ferry-Langley Centre Express" - Route via Hwy 10 from Ladner Exchange, with limited stops in Surrey and Cloverdale to Langley Centre. 3. Route 710: "Abbotsford-Surrey Central Station Express" - Route via Guildford Exchange to Hwy 1, then Route via South Fraser Way to Bourquin Exchange. 4. Route 711: "Haney Place-Mission Station" - self explanatory. 5. West Coast Express: Bi-directional rail service 7 days a week. Every 30 minutes during peak periods, and every 2 hours in the off-peak. Extension to Chilliwack imposed by 2014. 6. Skytrain Expo/Millennium Lines: Rebuild some stations to have through-tracks in the middle, introducing express service to Skytrain. 7. Canada Line: Leave as-is for time being. 8. Evergreen Line: (When built), trains will run beyond Lougheed Town Centre to VCC Clark, doubling the service along the Millennium Line. New B-Line routes: Once Expansion into Fraser Valley is complete: 801: "Abbotsford-Langley Centre" - Route via Fraser Hwy and Aldergrove, following both present-day ValleyMAX 21 and TransLink 502. 802: "Abbotsford-Tsawwassen Ferry Express" - Route via Fraser Hwy, calling at Aldergrove and Langley Centre, then Route via Hwy 10, running non-stop to Tsawwassen Ferry. 803: "Langley Centre-Chilliwack Express" - Route via Fraser Hwy to Abbotsford, then Route via Hwy 1 to Chilliwack. 805: "Coquitlam Station-Abbotsford Express" - Route via Lougheed Hwy, calling at Shaughnessy St, Pitt Meadows Station, then Route via Golden Ears bridge and Hwy 1 to Abbotsford Bourquin Exchange. All present-day ValleyMAX and Chilliwack-Agassiz routes will be renumbered into the 8xx series. I'll post more later. So essentially what your saying is TransLink would take over the Abbotsford/Chiliwack regions? Only way that'd make sense is if BC Transit gave up the region and FVRD joined Metro Vancouver. My Proposal regarding this was: Vancouver : Keep 0-100 Series Burnaby: Keep 101-149 Series Coquitlam/Port Coquitlam: Keep 150-199 Series North Vancouver: Keep 200-249/260-299 Series West Vancouver: Keep 250-259 Series Surrey: Keep 300-399 Series Richmond: Keep 400-420 Series Maple Ridge: Give Maple Ridge 421-449 Series Langley: Give Langley 450-499 Series Abbotsford: Give Abbotsford 500-599 Series Mission: Give Mission 600-649 Series Chiliwack: Give Chiliwack 650-699 Series Squamish/Whistler: Give 700-799 Series Hope: Give Hope CXX Branding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CN7059 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Good idea then again how long would it take to change tires? Around an hour per vehicle. Less if the tires are already mounted on rims. TL has full time people who do nothing but tires, so it's not like this isn't already going on every day. What I'm suggesting though, is that the tires be left on throughout the winter season. BCTransit had studded tires on their deckers, so we know this has been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormThief24 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'd like the route 491 resurrected. Spent a good chunk of this "morning" chatting with Cleowin on MSN and we both came up with some CRAZY ideas :rage:I'll warn you, the chances of these happening are slim to none and for George, the return of the 491! Instead of feeding every route/passenger from West Richmond into the Richmond section of the Canada Line, I figured it'd be smart to run some peak hour buses into Templeton Station. Since the YVR section is generally pretty quiet. Chris Cassidy An honourable idea, but the entire Canada Line is just a huge bottleneck. Plus, I can't give it the seal of approval because you forgot the 488 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I like that idea, but the only potential problem I could see cropping up is that Pacific Coastal already runs their own (free) shuttle from the main terminal to the south terminal. Perhaps if the "free fare zone" on the YVR section of the Canada Line were opened up to include the route 423, giving passengers a free ride from any part of the airport to another, it could be made quite attractive and Pacific Coastal could save a few bucks by not having to run their free shuttle anymore (since it doesn't make them any money anyway).The south terminal closes at 6 pm most days, so perhaps the portion of the route that covers the C92 (i.e. the old 425!) could be curtailed either at the Flying Beaver or at BCIT after 6 pm depending on demand. If you rerouted the bus to actually physically enter Templeton Station rather than just turn left from Templeton onto the North Service road, then it could serve another purpose - augment the transportation link between the employee lot and the terminal. Currently the employee shuttle buses only run while the Canada Line isn't running, so when the Canada Line is running on after hours schedule, the employees are shafted with service only once every 12 minutes, which SUCKS. I'm not sure about that little deviation on Miller Road directly south of Sea Island Centre station, it looks like you're getting the bus to drive into Purolator/Fedex... I think YVR also runs their own free South Terminal shuttle, although I don't know for sure I'll edit up the map later tonight with the ideas :rage: As for the deviation on Millard Road, it looked public from goggle maps, I'm assuming it isn't? Alex, gimme a bit I got an idea that MAY satisfy you Chris Cassiy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Kinda off topic here, but... can I get a mod to merge this thread and this one - http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?s=&showt...st&p=495876 together? It'd be easier for everyone. - Bryan "Goggles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hmm, I dont know, Then its no longer my thread and it becomes the "TransLink Concepts" thread. I mean not that I have problem with it, but I created this thread to start a conversation. AS well, The other thread generated absolutely no conversation and this one did, plain and simple. The other one is about concepts (design changes, signage, general look and feel stuff) while this thread is targeted towards service, bus movement and route concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium2002 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Both the same perhaps? Besides... before long we may start branching into millions of other topics like fare card reader design fantasies... ^^; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormThief24 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 My TransLink dream: Say it's all a big April Fools' Day joke (TransLink and CMBC were formed April 1st, 2000) and go back to BC Transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millennium2002 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 lol and yes get away from the regional bickering that threatens to tear the system apart... The notion of transit concepts and fantasies has sorta opened a wide door for me... because I'm just working on something right now along the same lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 My TransLink dream: Say it's all a big April Fools' Day joke (TransLink and CMBC were formed April 1st, 2000) and go back to BC Transit. What if it is BC Transit, but the government just put a mask on it and gave it the name "TransLink" ? you never know.. seems like its just as much BC Transit as it is TransLink. ^I want more unity. I rather see BC transit swallow up TransLink and re-take the region again or see an entire Lower Mainland consisting from Pemberton > Hope under TransLink. either way, I would prefer a more united regional transit service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormThief24 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 The problem with a unified transit system from Pemberton to Hope is the fact that the two municipalities are over 6 hours away from each other. Think about it. I would think it would be too big and unwieldy, with people in Burnaby making decisions regarding transit that they don't know about. This is happening already. Classic example, which I will never let TransLink or anyone on here live down, the 480 Brighouse Station. I'm not 100% sure on this, but from what I've noticed, BC Transit basically runs each municipality's transit system differently. There is no unified route numbering system, and I would assume BC Transit only provides the buses and lets each municipality, or at least lets each municipality have a major say in how their bus system should be run. Also, BC Transit receives government subsidies, I believe, while TransLink is a privatised corporation. I'm speculating here, so don't chew my head off if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleowin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 The problem with a unified transit system from Pemberton to Hope is the fact that the two municipalities are over 6 hours away from each other. Think about it. I would think it would be too big and unwieldy, with people in Burnaby making decisions regarding transit that they don't know about. This is happening already. Classic example, which I will never let TransLink or anyone on here live down, the 480 Brighouse Station.I'm not 100% sure on this, but from what I've noticed, BC Transit basically runs each municipality's transit system differently. There is no unified route numbering system, and I would assume BC Transit only provides the buses and lets each municipality, or at least lets each municipality have a major say in how their bus system should be run. Also, BC Transit receives government subsidies, I believe, while TransLink is a privatised corporation. I'm speculating here, so don't chew my head off if I'm wrong. TransLink could do something similar, instead of having CMBC operating the outer regions, it could be run by the local transit service currently in place, just with TransLink branding and with Translink route numbers. Basically, the municipality could do the route planning, while borrowing their busses/route numbers while TransLink continues to do mass Metro Vancouver route planning thats operated by CMBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nname Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Sorry for the extreme loooong post (took 2 hours to type >_<) My proposal (try to have minimum changes): 001-079 Vancouver 080-089 UBC 090-099 Vancouver/UBC Express 100-109 New Westminster 110-119 Burnaby (South) 120-129 Burnaby (Central) 130-139 Burnaby (North) 140-149 Burnaby (Mountain) 150-159 Coquitlam (South) 160-169 Coquitlam (Central) 170-179 Coquitlam (West Wood Plateau) 180-189 Port Coquitlam/Burke Mtn 190-199 Burnaby/Coquitlam Express 200-209 North Shore Regional 210-219 North Van (Phibb/Deep Cove) 220-249 North Van (Central) 250-259 West Van 260-269 Bowen Island 270-289 Squamish 290-299 North Shore Express 300-309 SOF Regional 310-319 North Delta 320-329 Surrey (Central) 330-339 Surrey (Guildford/Fleetwood) 340-349 Surrey (Newton/Clovedale) 350-369 South Surrey/White Rock 370-389 Surrey (Port Kells/ALR area) 390-399 SOF Express 400-419 Richmond (Central) 420-429 Sea Island 430-439 Richmond Regional 440-459 Not used 460-469 Richmond/New West (Queensborough/Fraserwood) 470-489 Not used 490-499 Richmond Express 500-509 Langley/Abbotsford Regional 510-519 Langley (East/Aldergrove) 520-529 Langley (Central) 530-539 Langley (South/Brookswood) 540-549 Langley (Glen Valley) 550-589 Abbotsford 590-599 Langley/Abbotsford Express 600-619 South Delta 620-629 South Delta Regional (to Ferries) 630-639 Not used 640-649 South Delta (Tilbury) 650-689 Not used 690-699 South Delta Express 700-709 Maple Ridge/Mission Regioal 710-719 Pitt Meadows/Maple Ridge (Central) 720-729 Maple Ridge (East) 730-739 Pitt Meadows/Maple Ridge (Northh) 740-749 Not used 750-769 Mission 770-789 Not used 790-799 Maple Ridge/Mission Express 800-809 Chilliwack/Hope Regional 810-829 Chilliwack 830-839 Everywhere between Abbotsford and Chilliwack 840-849 Nicomen Island + everywhere between Mission and Kent 850-859 Kent/Harrison 860-869 Laidlaw/Cheam View 870-879 Flood/Hope/Othello/Fraser Canyon 880-889 Not used 890-899 Chilliwack/Hope Express 900-909 Pemberton Valley Regional 910-949 Whistler 950-959 Pemberton 960-989 Not used 990-999 Whistler/Pemberton Express New/Modified Routes: 042: Restore number for C19 061: Renumber C21 063: Renumber C23 080: Renumber C20 082: Renumber C22 102: Restore number for C3 103: Restore number for C8 108: Restore number for C4 114: Restore number for C5 115: Restore number for C7 117: Renumber C6 137: Restore number for C2 139: Restore number for C1 148: Restore number for C24 161: Restore number for C36 164: Coquitlam Station/Meridian (Combine Coquitlam portion of C38 and C40) 165: Restore number for C30 170: Renumber C25 171: Renumber C26 173: Renumber C26 Special 174: Renumber C27 175: Renumber C28 176: Renumber C29 180: Coquitlam Station/Burke Mountain/Port Coquitlam Station via Coast Meridian 181: Coquitlam Station/Burke Mountain (Local) via Lincoln 182: Coquitlam Station/Burke Mountain (Local) via David 183: Renumber C38 Clockwise 184: Renumber C38 Counterclockwise 186: Renumber C37 Clockwise 187: Renumber C37 Counterclockwise 215: Restore number for C15 259: Merge with C12 to form a single route 260: Renumber C10 261: Renumber C11 (Eagle Cliff) 262: Renumber C11 (Endswell Farm) 270: Squamish/Horseshoe Bay 271: Renumber Squamish Route 1 272: Renumber Squamish Route 2 273: Renumber Squamish Route 3 291: Squamish/Vancouver Express 302: Bridgeport/Surrey Central 307: Coquitlam Station/Guildford 313: West Whalley/Surrey Central 317: Restore number for C71 318: Restore number for C76 322: Restore number for C75 328: Restore number for C73 336: Scottsdale/Fleetwood via 84th 337: Restore number for C74 342: Scottsdale/Newton via 68th 344: Scottsdale/Sunshine Hill (aka. the infamous C77) 346: Newton/Langley via Hwy 10 353: Restore number for C51 355: Restore number for C50 356: Restore number for C53 358: Restore number for C52 359: White Rock/Stayle 360: White Rock/South Surrey Loop 361: White Rock/Morgan Creek 362: White Rock/Peace Arch 368: Campbell Valley Flex Route (to White Rock) 381: Yorkson/Walnut Grove 382: Port Kells/Walnut Grove 385: Surrey Central/Walnut Grove via 96th/88th 396: White Rock/Vancouver (TrainBus) 397: Coquitlam Station/Guildford Express 413: Brighouse Station/22nd Street via Fraserwood (break off from 410) 414: Renumber C93 415: Renumber C94 416: Renumber C96 423: Renumber C90 425: Restore number for C92 461: Renumber C98 462: Renumber C99 503: Bridgeport/Langley 505: Haney Place/Langley (Local) 507: Restore number for C62 508: Langley/Walnut Grove 510: Langley/Aldergrove via Salmon River 511: Aldergrove/Glucester/Zoo 512: Aldergrove Circulator 520: Renumber C60 521: Renumber C61 523: Clayton/Langley Centre (via 68th) 524: Renumber and combine C64 and C70 531: Langley/White Rock 532: Renumber C63 538: Campbell Valley Flex Route (to Langley) 548: Glen Valley Flex Route 550: Renumber ValleyMax Route 21 551: Renumber ValleyMax Route 1 552: Renumber ValleyMax Route 2 553: Renumber ValleyMax Route 3 554: Renumber ValleyMax Route 4 555: Renumber ValleyMax Route 5 556: Renumber ValleyMax Route 6 557: Renumber ValleyMax Route 7 562: Renumber ValleyMax Route 12 565: Renumber ValleyMax Route 15 566: Renumber ValleyMax Route 16 567: Renumber ValleyMax Route 17 572: Renumber ValleyMax Route 22 573: Renumber ValleyMax Route 23 574: Renumber ValleyMax Route 24 576: Renumber ValleyMax Route 26 588: Sumas Prairie Flex Route 591: Abbotsford/Surrey Central Express 592: Abbotsford/Walnut Grove Express 597: Lougheed Station/Walnut Grove/Langley Express 603: Merge with C84 605: Renumber C89, merge with portion of 601 606: Merge with C86 607: Renumber C87 608: Merge with C88 610: Tsawwassen Ferry/South Delta 618: Renumber C88 reverse loop 711: Renumber C41 713: Renumber C43 714: Renumber C44 715: Renumber C45 716: Renumber C46 717: Renumber C47 721: Restore number for C49 722: Restore number for C48 728: Stave Fall Flex Route 731: Silver Valley/Haney Place 737: North Pitt Meadows Flex Route 738: North Maple Ridge Flex Route 750: Mission/Haney Place 752: Renumber ValleyMax Route 32 753: Renumber ValleyMax Route 33 754: Renumber ValleyMax Route 34 755: Renumber ValleyMax Route 35 759: Renumber ValleyMax Route 39 760: Renumber ValleyMax Route 40 790: Mission/Vancouver (TrainBus) 801: Chilliwack/Abbotsford (Local) 805: Mission/Kent/Harrison 811: Renumber Chilliwack Route 1 812: Renumber Chilliwack Route 2 813: Renumber Chilliwack Route 3 814: Renumber Chilliwack Route 4 815: Renumber Chilliwack Route 5 816: Renumber Chilliwack Route 6 817: Renumber Chilliwack Route 7 818: Renumber Chilliwack Route 8 819: Renumber Chilliwack Route 9 820: Renumber Chilliwack Route 10 822: Renumber Chilliwack Route 12 848: Nicomen Island Flex Route 851: Chilliwack/Kent/Harrison (Renumber Chilliwack Route 11) 861: Chilliwack/Bridal Falls 871: Chilliwack/Hope 872: Hope/Othello 875: Hope/Yale 890: Chilliwack/Vancouver (TrainBus/Greyhound) 891: Chilliwack/Abbotsford (via Hwy 1) 901: Whistler/Squamish (Renumber Whistler/Squamish route 98) 909: Whistler/Pemberton (Renumber Whistler route 99) 911: Renumber Whistler Route 1 912: Renumber Whistler Route 2 913: Renumber Whistler Route 3 914: Renumber Whistler Route 4 915: Renumber Whistler Route 5 916: Renumber Whistler Route 6 917: Renumber Whistler Route 7 921: Renumber Whistler Route 21 923: Renumber Whistler Route 43 933: Renumber Whistler Route 33 937: Renumber Whistler Route 77 951: Renumber Pemberton Route 100 990: Whistler/Vancouver (TrainBus/Greyhound) Well.. some of the new routes are from existing plans, and I merely assign a route number to them ^^;; TransLink could do something similar, instead of having CMBC operating the outer regions, it could be run by the local transit service currently in place, just with TransLink branding and with Translink route numbers. Basically, the municipality could do the route planning, while borrowing their busses/route numbers while TransLink continues to do mass Metro Vancouver route planning thats operated by CMBC. Yes, you can have multiple transit agency running under unified branding and fare system (an example would in Greater Taipei, where there are about 700 different routes run by around 20 different companies that are responsible for their own vehicles, fare collection, and scheduling, but they run under the same system with unified fare and route numbering scheme) And then you can also have a non-unified system but have unified numbering scheme so there are no confusion like the 5 different route 3s in Vancouver, Squamish, Whistler, Abbotsford, and Chilliwack (an example - all regional routes in Taiwan are under a unified 4-digits numbering scheme, so there are no two routes that share the same number) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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