CTrain - S200 (series 9) cars

[Nick B]

And you used to get a chocolate bar for a quarter. Your point?

Dan

No need to be rude. I too am surprised at the cost, as I thought they would cost a bit less. But I can see the reason for the much higher than normal cost, seeing such major improvements and changes. It's great to see that our C-Train system is finally getting a completely new, more sophisticated type of car.

I can't wait to see what these cars will look like in real life!

[Vancouver]

These are nice looking trains for sure. I personally prefer the Buffalo scheme, though it does look a little busy in the video. Looking at the pictures, is the driver area going to be visible to passengers, or are they thinking of putting a dark glass in there?

No need to be rude. I too am surprised at the cost, as I thought they would cost a bit less. But I can see the reason for the much higher than normal cost, seeing such major improvements and changes.

I think Siemens actually lowballed this order just so that Calgary would stay with them after all the issues with our Series 8's. Our last 38 Series 8 SD160's cost us $136 Million back in 2010, which is $3.57 Million Per Car. Edmonton's were $3.8 Million Per Car. With inflation and all the changes we are getting with these new S200's, I think we are getting quite a deal at $3.2 Million a piece.

[Gsgeek540]

Used to be the cars averaged a cost a little over a million.

I dont know how far back in time you are going but the first SDs were 4 million a piece when they were ordered.

[1604]

These are nice looking trains for sure. I personally prefer the Buffalo scheme, though it does look a little busy in the video. Looking at the pictures, is the driver area going to be visible to passengers, or are they thinking of putting a dark glass in there?

In this video from the city, they mention it will be easier for passengers to see out the front through the glass wall:

Also of note is the mention of improved air conditioning.

[LRT]

I dont know how far back in time you are going but the first SDs were 4 million a piece when they were ordered.

The 1st 27 U2 cars were $954,000.00 in July 1977 when the cars were ordered. WHAT A DEAL!!!

In this video from the city, they mention it will be easier for passengers to see out the front through the glass wall:

Also of note is the mention of improved air conditioning.

Russell Davies mentions that the door has moved 1 module back, the video shows the door in the in the normal place, however the pictures show the door in the new spot. Its going to be a pain in the ass to access the cab.

[kevlo86]

Used to be the cars averaged a cost a little over a million.

That was back in the days of the U2 cars. No comparison there.

[LRT]

S70 Cab looks similar to the S200 Cab

[1604]

Here's the video CTV had posted, but in much better quality:

Attached is a cropped pic of what appears to be a colour screen mounted on one of the stanchions in the video - it appears to show the line you're on, the next stop, the weather forecast, advertisements, and "Welcome aboard the S200 built specifically for Calgary"

Also, the Siemens S200 design book: http://s3.documentcl...design-book.pdf courtesy @Beltliner403 - Loads of cool stuff in there!

[1604]

The poll is now up.

http://www.calgarytransit.com/survey/

[LRT]

The Bow all the way for me!

[TheAverageJoe]

Buffalo it is for me!

[Transit Fan]

Buffalo > Bow > Mask

As long as it's not the mask, i'll be happy. It's not bad; the others are just much better.

[BCT-3122-D800-10240]

The Bow all the way for me!

DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LRT]

The only reason I like The Bow over The Buffalo is because of the LED tail/running lights that run on the sides of the cab, The Buffalo does not have them at all. The Mask has an aggressive front end design... I'm not to crazy about it but because of the similar LED lights, I would choose it over The Buffalo because of that safety feature.

All car designs may display a "Approaching Station" sign indicator on the exterior of the trailing cab.

I guess we should keep in mind that the trains livery has nothing to do with the designs, this pole is only for the front cab design.

[Newflyer3]

I like the Mask the most, I like the LED headlights which makes it the most aggressive out of the three. The Bow looks good but is a bit vanilla for me and then the Buffalo design I just don't like.

[1604]

All car designs may display a "Approaching Station" sign indicator on the exterior of the trailing cab.

I've been wondering about that and how it would work. I suppose you could tie it into the announcement system, but even then, what advantage does that offer over just brake lights?

[LRT]

It must have rear trailing brake lights and front amber driving lights (with headlights... duh) As per TSA and LRT rule book, the Approaching Station sign is just an added bonus but I can't see it happening in Calgary.

[dre]

20 bow 20 mask 20 buffalo enuff said

[LRT]

20 bow 20 mask 20 buffalo enuff said

Not gunna happen.....

[Jon Calon]

Kinda wish I could get the Bow with the Mask headlights...

Jon

[1604]

http://globalnews.ca/video/897478/new-lrt-car-design

One interesting feature mentioned that hadn't been before: in-floor heating.

[Nick B]

http://globalnews.ca...-lrt-car-design

One interesting feature mentioned that hadn't been before: in-floor heating.

I think I remember it being mentioned some time ago, but I'm not sure. Interesting feature indeed.

[LRT]

Yes, can't wait to see it break down and not work properly!

[1604]

The results are in: The Mask wins!

October 15, 2013 11:42 AM Category: Calgary Transit & commuting, Transportation

Following a public vote to determine the design of the front of Calgary Transit’s new CTrain cars, the results are in and The Mask is the winner.

On Sept. 11, 2013, Calgary Transit announced that it had ordered 60 new S200 light rail vehicles from Siemens Canada. Siemens provided three design options for the front of the new vehicles and Calgary Transit put it to Calgarians to choose the design.

The options included The Bow, inspired by the Bow River; The Buffalo, inspired by the buffalo; and The Mask, inspired by a goalie mask.

Thousands of Calgarians submitted their vote, either online or at the Doors Open YYC event at the Oliver Bowen Maintenance Facility. With over 4,500 votes, The Mask received almost 40 per cent of the vote and was the winner.

The design of The Mask represents individuality, reliability, style and protection, a fitting design to represent Calgary.

The new air-conditioned vehicles will have a new design, a new look and new features to improve the passenger experience. The new design will improve overall comfort, passenger information, reliability, security and accessibility. They will also enable future four-car CTrain operation and the replacement of some of the oldest LRVs (U2s) in the fleet. The new cars are three to four times more reliable than the old U2 trains.

The first new LRV will be delivered in August 2015 with the full order of 60 to be completed by December 2016. Each car will cost approximately $3.2 million CDN.

Calgary Transit thanks everyone who took the time to vote. These new CTrain cars will proudly represent Calgary and continue to make Calgary Transit’s CTrain system one of the most successful LRT systems in North America!

http://newsroom.calg...ins-248936.aspx

Sweet!

[Jon Calon]

I'm happy the Mask won, though only because it's visually distinctive from a good distance as to what type of train I'll be getting onto. The LED strip headlights are exceedingly distinctive...