MAX BRT Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks to Tcmetro, we know that the recommendation is that LA Metro buy 25 BYD electric buses Also, looks like 6 gasoline-electric buses will be converted to "Zero Emissions Buses" http://media.metro.n...eratvcitem3.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobWL Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 This article says that Windsor is waiting on 2 electric buses from BYD http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ds-windsor.html BYD did not submit the paperwork to get their vehicles approved in Canada, Transit Windsor got fed up waiting and are ordering new buses from New Flyer this year and next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimon8000 Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 BYD did not submit the paperwork to get their vehicles approved in Canada, Transit Windsor got fed up waiting and are ordering new buses from New Flyer this year and next. Last heard is that the K9 pass the Altoona test already~ don't really think BYD will get the bus approved in Canada in a short time, given the fact that they have decided to build a plant in California to build the K9 bus down there, which is much more sense making in terms on the size of orders they are expecting to receive(comparing to <10 bus order for Windsor huh?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobWL Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Last heard is that the K9 pass the Altoona test already~ don't really think BYD will get the bus approved in Canada in a short time, given the fact that they have decided to build a plant in California to build the K9 bus down there, which is much more sense making in terms on the size of orders they are expecting to receive(comparing to <10 bus order for Windsor huh?) BYD had signed an agreement with the city of Windsor that if the city bought some of their buses they would locate a plan in the city. Unfortunately ages later, they still hadn't submitted the paperwork to get the vehicles approved, no purchase order was submitted and they decided to build their plant in California. Meanwhile, Transit Windsor is ordering 4 clean diesel buses using money they were going to use to refresh their shuttle fleet (which they lost the contract for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 On the Long Beach transit thread, bzcat reported that, according to LB Transit, BYD submitted a bus (china made) for Altoona testing on 4/29/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakey077 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 LA Metro has now ordered 25 BYD buses as well. 5 at first to test then the additional 20... http://thesource.metro.net/2013/06/27/metro-to-purchase-first-electric-buses-for-l-a-county-transit-riders/ Here is the Long Beach Transit board meeting agency from the last board meeting. They get monthly updates on the BYD bus project and those are listed in the agenda. http://longbeach.granicus.com/DocumentViewer.php?file=longbeach_9efb67b277cab7f18f4aed82b25c9f27.pdf&view=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted July 20, 2013 Board Admin Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 BYD to supply Dutch all-electric busesThe 35 buses will enter service in July of 2014 and replace an ageing fleet of conventionally powered buses. Read More » Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieko Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 FYI if anyone wants to sneak a peak at this bus, it lives in plain site in downtown LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Long Beach Transit's zero-emission bus initiative will take longer than expected as two major issues—bus weight and cracks in the bus structure—bring new challenges in the procurement of ten electric buses from Chinese-owned company BYD. Source: http://www.lbpost.co...nt#.Uh1FvpgeWJU At Monday's LBT board meeting, Long Beach's Chief Traffic Engineer David Roseman expressed concern over the excessive weight of the BYD-purchased buses, ultimately showing that it would take a toll on streets and increase costs necessary to maintain them. Transit officials were forthright in admitting they knew of the weight issue before choosing to award BYD the contract. "BYD did provide the vehicle weight before the contract was signed," said LBT spokesperson Dana Pynn. "The weight of these particular buses is not a new subject and has been discussed throughout the entire process, including during the board workshops held prior to the board’s approval of the contract." Rolando Cruz, Executive Director and Vice President of Maintenance and Facilities at Long Beach Transit, also updated the board Monday on BYD's progress in having their buses tested at Altoona, the federal facility which oversees and tests the efficiency and structural soundness of public transit vehicles. According to Cruz's presentation, the coach that is being tested—which comes from a BYD facility in China, not its now-open Lancaster facility that is due to create the LBT fleet—completed six of the 17 required tasks as of July 12 before visible cracks began to show above the rear door. Though it had only completed around 2600 miles worth of tests, BYD then pulled the bus and determined that the cracks were due to poor welding, asserting the issue was not related to a design flaw. Information from the original RFQ shows that second runner up Proterra's contract cost more than BYD's, however, Proterra's bus showed both a lower curb weight—25,000lbs versus BYD's 30,423lbs—and gross vehicle weight—37,000lb versus 39,700lbs. Furthermore, Proterra's buses had already passed Altoona testing at the time of the bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVTArider Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Though it had only completed around 2600 miles worth of tests, BYD then pulled the bus and determined that the cracks were due to poor welding, asserting the issue was not related to a design flaw. Um, wouldn't you maybe want to spend a little extra time and make sure everything is being done well on a unit you're assembling for a test that can make or break your marketability in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted September 18, 2013 Board Admin Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Some interesting pictures here: New York City Transit testing all-electric BYD busThe test will determine if this type of bus can meet the twin challenges of operating in the stop-and-go traffic of Manhattan while maintaining high levels of passenger comfort and operational performance. Read More » Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Some interesting pictures here:okay.... Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Not sure if pictures have been posted already, but here are some pictures of this model testing in NYC. FYI if anyone wants to sneak a peak at this bus, it lives in plain site in downtown LA Was this that bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 From Caitsith810: So if you were wondering what these sound like, then there you go. Personally, I think they're pretty cool, and I hope they perform well enough to generate orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 BYD in the news again. Even I am surprised by this report on BYD exploiting Chinese nationals to work in California for less than minimum wage: http://www.highlandn...27023872813.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George L. Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I'm not really surprised at all. I don't mean to throw politics into this, but if you are familiar with Chinese labour practices, this is pretty much a norm. I expect our BYD units to have a "Made in China" quality to them, and will probably end up the way of our hybrid 42-BRT's. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9308910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I agree that the quality of the BYD is suspect, even beyond the range limitations and the unknowns of battery reliability over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Damage Control: BYD brings crisis manager to address issues http://la.streetsblog.org/2013/12/17/damage-control-byd-brings-crisis-manager-to-address-issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big CJ Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I think I'm a bit late to post this, but BYD had a demo in Miami. The bus was numbered 1000. This was earlier this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Damage Control: BYD brings crisis manager to address issues http://la.streetsblo...-address-issues That Brian Addison guy is basically the source of all the negative articles on the internet about BYD. He uses various different websites to publish basically the same story but reference them to each other as to appear that there is a ground swell of opposition to LB Transit's purchase of these buses, when it is only him. To me, he has no credibility left whatsoever. He previous posts on the subject verges on outright racism and plenty of misinformation. Whatever he has to say about BYD should be taken with a grain (maybe a large sack) of salt. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a paid guerrilla media by BYD's competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUB Transit Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 TfL is trying out two BYD busses: http://www.metro-magazine.com/news/story/2013/12/byd-delivers-electric-buses-to-london.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 That Brian Addison guy is basically the source of all the negative articles on the internet about BYD. He uses various different websites to publish basically the same story but reference them to each other as to appear that there is a ground swell of opposition to LB Transit's purchase of these buses, when it is only him. To me, he has no credibility left whatsoever. He previous posts on the subject verges on outright racism and plenty of misinformation. Whatever he has to say about BYD should be taken with a grain (maybe a large sack) of salt. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a paid guerrilla media by BYD's competitor. I don't see evidence that what you say is true. For example, here is an article from the NY Times (not written by Mr. Addison) which details broken promises made by BYD and details why the state of CA fined the company for failing to pay the minimum wage. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/us/chinese-company-falling-short-of-goal-for-california-jobs.html?_r=1& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLy Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 The STM unveiled the BYD demo from STO back on December 11th. English: http://www.stm.info/en/press/press-releases/2013/moving-toward-electrification---stm-to-test-a-fully-electric-standard-bus-from-china Français: http://www.stm.info/fr/presse/communiques/2013/en-route-vers-l-electrification---la-stm-testera-un-bus-regulier-chinois-a-propulsion-entierement-electrique (Photo source: STM.info) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCL Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 The STM unveiled the BYD demo from STO back on December 11th. English: http://www.stm.info/...-bus-from-china Français: http://www.stm.info/...ment-electrique Thanks for posting the media release link. I had the fortunate opportunity to ride bus 1322 when it was being tested by STO. I did post three video links on the STO thread of the bus, but if anyone did not get a chance to see the them, I'll embed two of the three here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted December 23, 2013 Board Admin Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Sounds neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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