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1999 Orion VI Retirement Watch

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The Orion VI's have begun to be retired from service. Post your spottings here.

BLACK - Active

RED - Retired

BOLD - Recently Retired

BLUE - Fire Victim, Possible Retirement

Updated: April 1, 2013

4001 4002 4003 4004 4005 4006 4007 4008 4009 4010

4011 4012 4013 4014 4015 4016 4017 4018 4019 4020

4021 4022 4023 4024 4025 4026 4027 4028 4029 4030

4031 4032 4033 4034 4035 4036 4037 4038 4039 4040

4041 4042 4043 4044 4045 4046 4047 4048 4049 4050

4051 4052 4053 4054 4055 4056 4057 4058 4059 4060

4061 4062 4063 4064 4065 4066 4067 4068 4069 4070

4071 4072 4073 4074 4075 4076 4077 4078 4079 4080

4081 4082 4083 4084 4085 4086 4087 4088 4089 4090

4091 4092 4093 4094 4095 4096 4097 4098 4099 4100

4101 4102 4103 4104 4105 4106 4107 4108 4109 4110

4111 4112 4113 4114 4115 4116 4117 4118 4119 4120

4121 4122 4123 4124 4125 4126 4127 4128 4129 4130

4131 4132 4133 4134 4135 4136 4137 4138 4139 4140

TOTAL ACTIVE: 0

TOTAL RETIRED: 140

Buses 4010 and 4037 were retired in December or January due to fires.

Bus 4083 was retired today following a scan for corrosion by the NRC in December.

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Can you expand on this NRC scan and whether they regularly partake in these activities? You would think the MTO or the in-house mechanics would have the last word.

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Can you expand on this NRC scan and whether they regularly partake in these activities? You would think the MTO or the in-house mechanics would have the last word.

I have no idea why they did this. All I know is they took a scan of the bus to see the integrety of the frame and it came out as too corroded.

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Can you expand on this NRC scan and whether they regularly partake in these activities? You would think the MTO or the in-house mechanics would have the last word.

From what I've heard, the NRC uses ultrasound technology to check the condition of the body and provide the results without actually taking the bus apart.

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From what I've heard, the NRC uses ultrasound technology to check the condition of the body and provide the results without actually taking the bus apart.

Why would the fuel tank be removed and why would a bag of fuel be hanging on the fueling door?

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Is this scan going to be applied to the whole fleet of Orion VI's?

I have no idea. It may be, but it also may be just to hint to OC that they should remove them from the fleet soon?

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I have no idea. It may be, but it also may be just to hint to OC that they should remove them from the fleet soon?

With what buses? OC has made some pretty stupid mistakes with bus orders lately. Maybe they should spend the money and fix what they have instead of buying a bunch of lemons. (D60lfr's) It would be cheaper for them and it would get better use out of the current fleet.

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Why would the fuel tank be removed and why would a bag of fuel be hanging on the fueling door?

An item that was forwarded to me explaining about the initiative did say that they wouldn't have to take the bus apart. As to why they removed the fuel tank, I don't know why they would do that.

With what buses? OC has made some pretty stupid mistakes with bus orders lately. Maybe they should spend the money and fix what they have instead of buying a bunch of lemons. (D60lfr's) It would be cheaper for them and it would get better use out of the current fleet.

And if the Transit Commission approves the double decker purchase next month (75 units), it looks like the remaining fleet of Orion VI (as well as 20 Nova LFS's) will retire, as that equates to 158 first-generation low floor buses to be retired (excluding bus 4083 that Enviro_1203 mentioned).

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An item that was forwarded to me explaining about the initiative did say that they wouldn't have to take the bus apart. As to why they removed the fuel tank, I don't know why they would do that.

And if the Transit Commission approves the double decker purchase next month (75 units), it looks like the remaining fleet of Orion VI (as well as 20 Nova LFS's) will retire, as that equates to 158 first-generation low floor buses to be retired (excluding bus 4083 that Enviro_1203 mentioned).

Thats what I heard. Is it possible that the scanner used could ignite fuel?

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Thats what I heard. Is it possible that the scanner used could ignite fuel?
If it's ultrasound, from what JCL said, no it cannot light the fuel on fire. If it could, they wouldn't use it to observe baby's before they are born.

But maybe the NRC didn't want to take any chances, as if the bus did catch on fire while they are responsible for it, then it would be their fault. By removing the tank, then there is no risk.

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Did you take that picture?

Yup. Went by the garage yesterday. Honestly, when I saw the damage, I was shocked, cause from the pic that someone posted on the MyNews on CTV, it didn't look that bad, it was just smoking. But I guess that was cause it was the before the fire fully started.

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I have recieved confirmation that buses 4011 and 4104 have been retired.

Also, while passing the garage on a bus this morning going to Hurdman, from Elmvale (for those who think I camp infront of the garage, I don't :D), I saw a 411x on a body shop hoist retired.

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I have recieved news from a contact that bus 4035 caught fire on Tuesday. I will have more information about it's fate hopefully tomorrow, if not, early next week after Labour Day. If the damage is as bad as the recent Orion VI fires, it is almost certain retirement.

*POST TO BE EDITED AS SOON AS INFO BECOMES AVALIABLE*

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Was at the garage today to sign papers for another round of Co-op, 4070 is retired.

Shucks, just rode it Saturday on the 164. :D

Why are they being retired so fast?

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