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36 minutes ago, Evan Hancock said:

To make things easier with the articulated buses arrangement, the 49, 257, 480, and 620 should use double deckers

Others might work, but the 49 no. Stops too frequently - I believe dwell times at stops would increase for passengers getting off from the upper deck.

33 minutes ago, Evan Hancock said:

The D60LFRs should be staying in Poco; it seems they've not had good succession with hybrids (not talking CNGs). That's also why they've gotten a lot of D60LFs back. Perhaps they should get some XN60s or something

Yes I think the D60LFRs will mostly operate 143/145, but the future PTC XDE60s will operate the Lougheed RapidBus B-Line whatever you call it.

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6 hours ago, translink said:

Peak Hours only. A la 43 circa 2014. Every 15 minutes peak hours only. Both directions. 

They were already playing with the peak-only 480 schedule in the same dummy sheet as those R-series rapid bus routes.

Oh, and they just added R21 and R30 too ?

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8 minutes ago, nname said:

They were already playing with the peak-only 480 schedule in the same dummy sheet as those R-series rapid bus routes.

Oh, and they just added R21 and R30 too ?

R30? What is this insulation?! ? I know that’ll be for the 430, but what the hell is 21? North shore?

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I think R30 might be the Ironworker Express which was proposed in place of the planned 231 improvement.  If that's the case, I wonder why Port Mann express is still 555...  But as of now it looks like Wellingdon B-Line with very few stops.

And R21... it's just the Main-Marine B-Line in alternate universe where West Van never stopped it past Park Royal ??

 

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2 minutes ago, Millennium2002 said:

I wonder if someone decided that there needed to be two digits after the R rather than just one...

I'll bet it's the same BS when we re-numbered our community shuttles: save as many digit numbers from the original. Though admittedly the nightbuses were like that too

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54 minutes ago, nname said:

I think R30 might be the Ironworker Express which was proposed in place of the planned 231 improvement.  If that's the case, I wonder why Port Mann express is still 555...  But as of now it looks like Wellingdon B-Line with very few stops.

And R21... it's just the Main-Marine B-Line in alternate universe where West Van never stopped it past Park Royal ??

 

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I'll also conclude that the proposed 245 route from Capilano to Phibbs will either not be a frequent route or has been eliminated altogether.

10 minutes ago, 8800GTX said:

R30's lack of a BCIT stop is interesting...

Also, what happens to the 125?
1) Increase frequency and make it non-stop
2) Cancel and move resources to 130 BCIT trips (There's a bit more space at Metrotown with some routes kicked outside the loop)

Argument:
Coming in from Brentwood station, BCIT students need better access to their school other than route 25. Long walk to nearest 130 SB stop

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1 hour ago, 8010 said:

https://www.translink.ca/Plans-and-Projects/RapidBus-Program.aspx

The 99 will be keeping the B-Line branding.

That should NOT be happening:

Either rebrand the 99 to R9 without adding the amenities, or they should have built around the 99 and kept the B-Line system as is, with numbering like this:

B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B9 etc etc

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4 minutes ago, Express691 said:

That should NOT be happening:

Either rebrand the 99 to R9 without adding the amenities, or they should have built around the 99 and kept the B-Line system as is, with numbering like this:

B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B9 etc etc

I agree but the 99 is not going to be here long term

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7 minutes ago, cleowin said:

So what should happen is the remaining D60LF’s and the D60LFR’s should be sent to BTC in exchange for several DE60LFR’s so the 99 still has its distinct B-Line Branding

Of course we know that's not going to happen. The D60LFs will be gone soon, and the D60LFRs are at PTC for the 143/145.

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59 minutes ago, Translink69 said:

Both directions are gonna have the same route name ??

“We want to reduce passenger confusion” -Translink 2019

 

If they're like the trains and say 'R1 King George to Newton' or similar maybe it'll be better. But I don't understand how their studies/consultations to 'reduce confusion' led to this either.  

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19 minutes ago, cleowin said:

I agree but the 99 is not going to be here long term

Minimally, they should just eliminate the B-Line word altogether.

17 minutes ago, briguychau said:

Of course we know that's not going to happen. The D60LFs will be gone soon, and the D60LFRs are at PTC for the 143/145.

Also consider what's coming in for RapidBus service: PCT will get XDE60s and the 701 won't need artics. 13 runs on 3 spares for 143/145 is enough for the D60LFRs, so those D60LFs can just be scrapped.

Maximum output for the 99 B-Line is 34 buses, which leaves 5 spares. However, one needs to account for the 257 and 44, which are also non-rapidbus artic routes. 

Case in point: The remaining non-RB articulated buses (39+25+21+26=91 buses) will NOT be enough to service the 49, 99, 257, 143, 145, and 503.

2 minutes ago, DarkKeyo said:

If they're like the trains and say 'R1 King George to Newton' or similar maybe it'll be better. But I don't understand how their studies/consultations to 'reduce confusion' led to this either.  

I do agree: That study was pointless, redundant, and unnecessary

 

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