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The 1976 routing on the 26 was surprisingly similar to today's routing. There were small differences presumably due to different former alignments and the former Uptown "Brydon Exchange", but the bulk of it, including the entire portion from Uptown to Dockyards, is identical to current routing.

The 40 (at least an initial implementation) from what I've been hearing is fairly high on the priority list, and I wouldn't be surprised for it to show up within the next year or two, some time after phase 1 RapidBus. It going to FTN standards might take way longer, however (rip the 9).

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Does anyone know what the logic is behind the 75's weird routing around Royal Oak Exchange? I don't remember it being like that when I first moved here back in 2015. 

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April 4 service change information + schedule preview are up.

 

Typical post secondary related reductions (removal of UVIC scheduled short turns); 3/10 no longer through-route in James Bay; Route 3 sees a substantial service increase to above Fall levels; Route 10 decreased to hourly most times due to low ridership; service restoration to Fall levels on PM peak full 26s, AM peak 71, and daytime 72 on all service days. 70/72 rescheduled to provide a larger buffer for trips heading to the ferry. Runtimes adjusted on the 3, 10, 15, 17, 39, 43, 47, 48, 53, 70, 71, 72, 81.

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9 hours ago, ephrex said:

April 4 service change information + schedule preview are up.

 

Typical post secondary related reductions (removal of UVIC scheduled short turns); 3/10 no longer through-route in James Bay; Route 3 sees a substantial service increase to above Fall levels; Route 10 decreased to hourly most times due to low ridership; service restoration to Fall levels on PM peak full 26s, AM peak 71, and daytime 72 on all service days. 70/72 rescheduled to provide a larger buffer for trips heading to the ferry. Runtimes adjusted on the 3, 10, 15, 17, 39, 43, 47, 48, 53, 70, 71, 72, 81.

Oh good, the "improvements" to the 70/71/72 mean I get to get up even earlier and get home even later. RapidBus can't get here soon enough. 

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9 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

Oh good, the "improvements" to the 70/71/72 mean I get to get up even earlier and get home even later. RapidBus can't get here soon enough. 

Ferry demand drives most of the ridership there and there were regular issues especially northbound where trips would run late and miss the walk-on ticketing cutoff.

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Summer service change takes effect on June 27:

  • Seasonal discontinuation of K-12 school trippers
  • Due to long term roadwork and rolling closure on Gorge Road, Routes 11, 24, and 25 will see routing changes (Burnside-Tillicum LATP):
    • Route 11 turns onto Tillicum Road from Gorge directly both directions
    • Routes 24/25 extend north to Tillicum Centre via Admirals, Cowper, Dysart, Obed, Tillicum, to Tillicum Centre, taking over the portion currently serviced by the 11.
      • Buses service Tillicum Centre at the upper level most times due to capacity constraints at the existing lower level stop
      • Service levels improved all service days
  • Additional overload trips on routes 70 and 75 in anticipation of tourist traffic, with additional overloads run as needed by Operations
  • Runtimes adjusted on routes 11, 24, 25, 26, 32, 51
  • Some early morning trips on some Peninsula routes shifted to improve connections

 

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19 hours ago, ephrex said:

Summer service change takes effect on June 27:

    • Routes 24/25 extend north to Tillicum Centre via Admirals, Cowper, Dysart, Obed, Tillicum, to Tillicum Centre, taking over the portion currently serviced by the 11.
      • Buses service Tillicum Centre at the upper level most times due to capacity constraints at the existing lower level stop
      • Service levels improved all service days
  • Additional overload trips on routes 70 and 75 in anticipation of tourist traffic, with additional overloads run as needed by Operations
  • Some early morning trips on some Peninsula routes shifted to improve connections

 

Glad to see the 24/25 taking over the world's dumbest routing along the 11's suburb spin up on Admirals. ack when the 26 was a bit less frequent I made the mistake of once boarding an 11 because it said "UVIC" on it. Man was I in for a nasty surprise. 

I would love to see 70/72/75 increased year round. I commute on all three (75 usually weekly depending on my on-call locations), and they are always overcrowded. Always. 

Glad to see that the peninsula routes are being shifted... going to have to check the schedule to see what that means because their previous "adjustments" extended my commute by as much as half an hour at some times. 

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15 hours ago, InfiNorth said:

Glad to see the 24/25 taking over the world's dumbest routing along the 11's suburb spin up on Admirals. ack when the 26 was a bit less frequent I made the mistake of once boarding an 11 because it said "UVIC" on it. Man was I in for a nasty surprise. 

I would love to see 70/72/75 increased year round. I commute on all three (75 usually weekly depending on my on-call locations), and they are always overcrowded. Always. 

Glad to see that the peninsula routes are being shifted... going to have to check the schedule to see what that means because their previous "adjustments" extended my commute by as much as half an hour at some times. 

unfortunately the peninsula routes are awkward like that... At current service levels, when a not insignificant change like addressing people missing the ferry walk-on cutoff happens, the priority tends to be the higher profile connections like the 72-75 and the 72-88. The other ones tend to be more likely to be forgotten, especially for reverse peak direction trips.

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On 5/8/2022 at 9:53 PM, ephrex said:

Summer service change takes effect on June 27:

Sorry to ask as I always end up asking this... where did you come across this info?

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Continuing the #2/5 discussion, the #88 is essentially a short-turn version of the #87. Maybe BC Transit should have just extended the #88 to Saanichton instead of making their timetable messier

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that's an extremely expensive change that is not necessary -- none of the 80's routes (except maybe the 81) has any significant latent demand that could be serviced by significant improvements.

The extended portion duplicates the 72 other than the Dean Park coverage portion anyway.

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Having an "express" bus from the core of Langford run into Colwood makes the route so indirect that getting people onboard from cars is unrealistic. There needs to be two West Shore express routes in RapidBus format, IMO, one to each Colwood and Langford.

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Once upon a time, there were a couple of Sooke commuter runs labeled "61X" that took Highway 1 from Langford, somewhat similar to what the 65 does now (without the Westhills jog). The "X" designation was removed fairly quickly when it turned out that those trips actually took longer than the regular commuter 61's that went through Colwood.

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On 5/8/2022 at 9:53 PM, ephrex said:

Summer service change takes effect on June 27:

  • Seasonal discontinuation of K-12 school trippers
  • Due to long term roadwork and rolling closure on Gorge Road, Routes 11, 24, and 25 will see routing changes (Burnside-Tillicum LATP):
    • Route 11 turns onto Tillicum Road from Gorge directly both directions
    • Routes 24/25 extend north to Tillicum Centre via Admirals, Cowper, Dysart, Obed, Tillicum, to Tillicum Centre, taking over the portion currently serviced by the 11.
      • Buses service Tillicum Centre at the upper level most times due to capacity constraints at the existing lower level stop
      • Service levels improved all service days
  • Additional overload trips on routes 70 and 75 in anticipation of tourist traffic, with additional overloads run as needed by Operations
  • Runtimes adjusted on routes 11, 24, 25, 26, 32, 51
  • Some early morning trips on some Peninsula routes shifted to improve connections

 

Just linking the service changes press release
https://www.bctransit.com/documents/1529714989011

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7 hours ago, Express691 said:

Just linking the service changes press release
https://www.bctransit.com/documents/1529714989011

I am insanely confused as the document's webpage title is "Fall 2018 Service Summary."

On 6/11/2022 at 11:11 PM, Express691 said:

So TBT to Kelowna's run with deckers on the 97X? idk

Really hoping that BC Transit doesn't create as unusable a "rapid transit" system as the 97X. Kelowna's 97 is an abomination with half-hour headways, making it often faster to walk than wait for the bus. If peak-hour service on a "rapid transit" line is once every fifteen minutes, all the "rapid transit" title is is a flashy name. Nothing more, just another bus route at typical North American frequencies that discourage spur-of-the-moment transit ridership. Luckily the document linked states that the frequency is to be "15 minutes or better" so there is hope.

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1 hour ago, Dane said:

I didn't realize more Deckers were coming, how many in this batch?

Wiki states 8 units, but I don't have any way of confirming that.

Separate question: it's now mid-August 2022; if these are units built in 2021, why has it taken so long (8+ months) for them to enter service?

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5 hours ago, Articulated said:

Separate question: it's now mid-August 2022; if these are units built in 2021, why has it taken so long (8+ months) for them to enter service?

Doubt the answer is specific to Victoria. At CMBC in Vancouver they finished comissioning 2021 artics delivered in October in mid-June. They also have a batch of 25 2021 deckers which have yet to enter service (but I'm told these ones are total lemons which could better explain why it took so long for the Victoria units to enter service). 

Also looks CMBC pioneered some sort of guard to the fuel filter (near the tag axle) to prevent fuel spills which later became standard on subsequent ADL orders. However I'm not too certain if that's the case here.

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