Megabus Rider Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 11:50 PM, ns8401 said: Effective 11/1/22 NEW: 4177 Albany, New York to Syracuse, New York 4188 Syracuse, New York to Albany, New York Other Changes: 4175 Boston, Massachusetts to Syracuse, New York -- Will now operate from Boston, Massachusetts to Albany, New York 4194 Syracuse, New York to Boston, Massachusetts -- Will now operate from Albany, New York to Boston, Massachusetts http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/76-22.pdf Not sure what is the point of having separate schedules. Ourbus with Coach Express operates between Buffalo and Boston with stops at Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Lee and Worcester with connections to University of Buffalo, Niagara Falls, NY, Niagara Falls, ON, Hamilton, Mississauga, Toronto and Scarborough in Canada. Unless Greyhound has beef with Peter Pan since they operate between Albany and Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, ns8401 said: No it doesn't... I forgot to include that they have established a new stop in Woodburn, Oregon. It's to the northeast of Salem. Well that seems to be their new business model...to abandon costly downtown terminals in favor of suburban stops conveniently located at an interstate highway exit. Of course, that's only convenient for those on that side of a particular town, and sometimes means no local transit connections other than a taxi or uber type service. 8 hours ago, ns8401 said: Interestingly we don't. For that matter I can only think of two people from another coach company out of 51 drivers. I'm not exactly sure why. I did have a Greyhound driver ask me if we were hiring a couple days ago. I know a former Greyhound driver interviewed recently but ultimately didn't get it or turned it down. Most of our people either drove truck, school bus or for the vast majority... they don't have a CDL and we train them to get one. I asked once why we don't tend to get very many folks from other coach companies... something about not wanting to go through the trouble of breaking bad habits. The trouble is that the new folks that aren't used to the hours have a hard time adjusting and so retention is an issue. We had 81 before the pandemic and 49 when everybody was called back from layoff and had to return or leave. We have hired 33 drivers.. sounds good right? We have lost 31 drivers including several experienced ones plus the new folks that burn out or don't make it. 18 months later we have... 51 drivers. Not exactly a great score. Our company has several "return from retirement" driver's, some even older than myself. Of course, being in South Florida, there is an abundance of those. We share a similar experience with our younger hires. Kind of a 'revolving door'....they come, stay awhile, and leave. One thing Academy does not do, is offer any real incentives for full time driver's to stick around...being a non-union operation, they choose to not assign work by seniority. We do, like many other companies, offer sign-on bonuses and some driver's upon fulfilling their commitment, will then leave for another job. We also get many former school bus driver's. Some of our part-timer's still drive them full time, and drive for us weekends and summer's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Megabus Rider said: Not sure what is the point of having separate schedules. Ourbus with Coach Express operates between Buffalo and Boston with stops at Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Lee and Worcester with connections to University of Buffalo, Niagara Falls, NY, Niagara Falls, ON, Hamilton, Mississauga, Toronto and Scarborough in Canada. Unless Greyhound has beef with Peter Pan since they operate between Albany and Boston. I too, can't understand why they are chopping thru trips into shorter segments. Back in the old days, they ran trips coast to coast, and border to border, They must have some strategy for that, but I cannot figure it out. I don't think they would do it to deliberately drive away business... As for them ending their revenue sharing and schedule pooling with Peter Pan several years ago...I can't see where that would make any sense for them not running thru, either. Greyhound ran Boston-Worcester-Springfield-Pittsfield-Albany route long before Peter Pan did. Peter Pan started out between Springfield, Worcester, and Boston, and later acquired Bonanza, who had a Providence-Springfield-Allbany route inherited from Interstate Busses Company. They used those 'rights' to then run thru service Boston to Albany, and for a while, after joining the Trailways association, pooled with Adirondack and Empire Trailways, and Gray Coach Lines to run thru Boston to Toronto service during a Greyhound strike, and continued later in competition with Greyhound, and its new pool partner, Trentway-Wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Effective 11/22/22 Other Changes: 1011 -- Brunswick, Georgia has been discontinued 1014 -- Brunswick, Georgia has been discontinued 3791 -- Melbourne, Florida has been discontinued 3798 -- Melbourne, Florida has been discontinued Effective 11/24/22 ** NEW TABLE 477 Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas ** NEW: FLX9314 Austin, Texas to Houston, Texas FLX9315 Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas FLX9316 Austin, Texas to Houston, Texas FLX9317 Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas FLX9318 Austin, Texas to Houston, Texas FLX9319 Houston, Texas to Austin, Texas ** FLIX BUS SCHEDULES THAT INTERLINE TO GREYHOUND** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megabus Rider Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 7:00 AM, traildriver said: I too, can't understand why they are chopping thru trips into shorter segments. Back in the old days, they ran trips coast to coast, and border to border, They must have some strategy for that, but I cannot figure it out. I don't think they would do it to deliberately drive away business... As for them ending their revenue sharing and schedule pooling with Peter Pan several years ago...I can't see where that would make any sense for them not running thru, either. Greyhound ran Boston-Worcester-Springfield-Pittsfield-Albany route long before Peter Pan did. Peter Pan started out between Springfield, Worcester, and Boston, and later acquired Bonanza, who had a Providence-Springfield-Allbany route inherited from Interstate Busses Company. They used those 'rights' to then run thru service Boston to Albany, and for a while, after joining the Trailways association, pooled with Adirondack and Empire Trailways, and Gray Coach Lines to run thru Boston to Toronto service during a Greyhound strike, and continued later in competition with Greyhound, and its new pool partner, Trentway-Wager. Now Ourbus is stepping up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 16 hours ago, Megabus Rider said: Now Ourbus is stepping up! I am not familiar with this outfit. Are they an actual company, or are they like Flix -- a booking site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, traildriver said: I am not familiar with this outfit. Are they an actual company, or are they like Flix -- a booking site? They are like FLIX if I understand it right. They contract with others to run their routes for them. I don’t believe they own any equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidbus Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 6:31 AM, traildriver said: Well that seems to be their new business model...to abandon costly downtown terminals in favor of suburban stops conveniently located at an interstate highway exit. Of course, that's only convenient for those on that side of a particular town, and sometimes means no local transit connections other than a taxi or uber type service. Can't say its a recent thing. The last new terminal GH the company built was probably pre-strike in 1990. All the actions taken by the comapny after that has been moving to gas stations and park and rides. What is new however if the increasing number of e-ticketing only locations including mid-sized locations such as Toledo, OH and Springfield, MA 2 hours ago, ns8401 said: They are like FLIX if I understand it right. They contract with others to run their routes for them. I don’t believe they own any equipment. Yep exact same business model. Partner contract model. Ourbus is the ticket seller, and contractor operates the buses. They operate curbside as well. (They are even worse at some aspect as well, they have like 20 different NYC curbside location, and each route leaves at different locations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 FLIX, Our Bus...if this is the "new normal" for intercity bus lines...well...lets just say I am glad I retired from that side of the business, when I did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, traildriver said: FLIX, Our Bus...if this is the "new normal" for intercity bus lines...well...lets just say I am glad I retired from that side of the business, when I did... I honestly don’t think it’s the new normal at least in the middle of the country. All of the smaller companies can cover 2/3rds or more of the country and resist…. Well I’m optimistic that they can. I’m less optimistic that FLIX can fix Greyhound and make it work. But the other companies generally run all their runs everyday and usually within reason time wise. Greyhound cannot say the same and FLIX and co. with their curbside stuff simply confuses people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megabus Rider Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 10:29 PM, traildriver said: I am not familiar with this outfit. Are they an actual company, or are they like Flix -- a booking site? Like Flixbus but recently Ourbus has changed more to a reseller than a 'de facto' operator with wrapped buses that appear to be their own. Megabus has switched to the same concept as Ourbus now with the 2 recent reseller partnerships with Fullington Trailways and Trailways of NY. 14 hours ago, traildriver said: FLIX, Our Bus...if this is the "new normal" for intercity bus lines...well...lets just say I am glad I retired from that side of the business, when I did... Somewhat the 'new normal' but more like an alternative to reduce cost for a Carrier to employ a marketing team and Customer Service team. Both Megabus and Ourbus have their own marketing team and their own Customer Service team. Can't speak for Megabus but Ourbus takes a 20% cut for each ticket sold which leaves the Carrier to focus on the Drivers and Maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Megabus Rider said: Like Flixbus but recently Ourbus has changed more to a reseller than a 'de facto' operator with wrapped buses that appear to be their own. Megabus has switched to the same concept as Ourbus now with the 2 recent reseller partnerships with Fullington Trailways and Trailways of NY. Somewhat the 'new normal' but more like an alternative to reduce cost for a Carrier to employ a marketing team and Customer Service team. Both Megabus and Ourbus have their own marketing team and their own Customer Service team. Can't speak for Megabus but Ourbus takes a 20% cut for each ticket sold which leaves the Carrier to focus on the Drivers and Maintenance. If you lose 20% and then have drivers and maintenance to focus on it’s a wash. The model seems to attract lower-end companies that probably wouldn’t make it on their own. That New York Trailways partnered with them instead of remaining independent is somewhat surprising. We can expect to see a lot more realignments starting in January. The changeover to the FLIX system and elimination of TRIPS is slated for January 23rd or so. Some of the companies that partner with Greyhound may balk at the terms laid out by FLIX to continue being partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidbus Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 hours ago, ns8401 said: If you lose 20% and then have drivers and maintenance to focus on it’s a wash. The model seems to attract lower-end companies that probably wouldn’t make it on their own. That New York Trailways partnered with them instead of remaining independent is somewhat surprising. We can expect to see a lot more realignments starting in January. The changeover to the FLIX system and elimination of TRIPS is slated for January 23rd or so. Some of the companies that partner with Greyhound may balk at the terms laid out by FLIX to continue being partners. It seems like there are difference between partners and interlines The contractor partners will probably get 20% taken out, interlines probably get to keep all the revenue minus the service fee. Of course I'm not sure what the exact arrangement each company has. For megabus it seem like NYT is only selling 5 seats. Megabus probably will only keep the service charge associated with that trip In other news, Flix just recruited Lucky Star bus in NYC. They were one of the first Chinatown bus lines https://www.luckystarbus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Rapidbus said: It seems like there are difference between partners and interlines The contractor partners will probably get 20% taken out, interlines probably get to keep all the revenue minus the service fee. Of course I'm not sure what the exact arrangement each company has. For megabus it seem like NYT is only selling 5 seats. Megabus probably will only keep the service charge associated with that trip In other news, Flix just recruited Lucky Star bus in NYC. They were one of the first Chinatown bus lines https://www.luckystarbus.com/ It was described to me that we get paid by the “lift” for a ticket where Greyhound or another carrier has the money. Instead of just having each company keep its piece of the ticket money which could easily be automatically split and sent to them (each individual ticket has a value as a portion of the trip) they all have to submit tickets to each other every month for reimbursement. No ticket received? You keep the money then. Pure profit. Note I didn’t say it was profitable as a company… their last fiscal year was a $1 million profit. Who cares if someone uses it or falls into a swimming pool of angry piranhas? You would think everybody would get the portion they are owed and actual ticket collection would be a matter of statistics about ridership. But Greyhound makes a lot of money off unsubmitted and unused tickets I suspect. This is yet another way the bus industry got to about 1950 and simply stopped developing or keeping up with the times. I once heard someone describe the intercity industry as a dinosaur… I’m starting to think he’s not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megabus Rider Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 7:42 AM, ns8401 said: If you lose 20% and then have drivers and maintenance to focus on it’s a wash. The model seems to attract lower-end companies that probably wouldn’t make it on their own. That New York Trailways partnered with them instead of remaining independent is somewhat surprising. We can expect to see a lot more realignments starting in January. The changeover to the FLIX system and elimination of TRIPS is slated for January 23rd or so. Some of the companies that partner with Greyhound may balk at the terms laid out by FLIX to continue being partners. If you only know what Megabus and Ourbus pay for Google Ad words, 20% is pocket change compared to the cost of Google Ad words. Not to mention both booking platforms use the yield management. My friend used to have his fares as 'everyday low fares' with Ourbus. After he asked Ourbus to have his fares dictated by the yield system, he's making up to $5 more per passenger because majority of the bookings are 24 hours or less to departure. My friend also noticed the increase in ridership after using the yield system, that's why he purchased a MCI D4505 to supplement the Minibus. On 11/28/2022 at 11:48 AM, Rapidbus said: For megabus it seem like NYT is only selling 5 seats. Megabus probably will only keep the service charge associated with that trip All that announcements for 5 seats? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 Effective 12/1/22 Other Changes: 1163 Chicago, Illinois to Memphis, Tennessee -- Sikeston Matthews, Missouri has been discontinued 1212 Memphis, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois -- Sikeston Matthews, Missouri has been discontinued 1214 Memphis, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois -- Sikeston Matthews, Missouri has been discontinued 1227 Chicago, Illinois to Memphis, Tennessee -- Sikeston Matthews, Missouri has been discontinued 1316 Portland, Oregon to Boise, Idaho -- Stanfield, Oregon has been discontinued and Pasco, Washington has been added 1345 Boise, Idaho to Portland, Oregon -- Stanfield, Oregon has been discontinued and Pasco, Washington has been added 6903 Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington -- Stanfield, Oregon and the second Pasco, Washington (were there two stops?) have been discontinued 6904 Seattle, Washington to Spokane, Washington -- Stanfield, Oregon and the second Pasco, Washington have been discontinued ** Sikeston/Matthews, Missouri (Population 16,500 combined) and Stanfield, Oregon (Population 1500) no longer have bus service. ** http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/81-22.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidbus Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, ns8401 said: Effective 12/1/22 1316 Portland, Oregon to Boise, Idaho -- Stanfield, Oregon has been discontinued and Pasco, Washington has been added 1345 Boise, Idaho to Portland, Oregon -- Stanfield, Oregon has been discontinued and Pasco, Washington has been added 6903 Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington -- Stanfield, Oregon and the second Pasco, Washington (were there two stops?) have been discontinued 6904 Seattle, Washington to Spokane, Washington -- Stanfield, Oregon and the second Pasco, Washington have been discontinued http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/81-22.pdf Interesting... they used to run a dedicated Portland - Spokane service, but their PNW network is almost non existent at this point Regarding Pasco, WA, the bus in question used to come in from Seattle, to go to Stanfield via Pasco, WA, wait for the Boise bus to come in from Portland, transfer passengers and continue up to Spokane passing through Pasco, WA again. Now that they are not going to Stanfield, they only need to stop at Pasco once, with the Boise bus meeting them at Pasco. Intercity bus has a long way to go in this country... every time something happens to the network, strike, pandemic, the bus system never recovers to it's original size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted December 29, 2022 Report Share Posted December 29, 2022 Effective 12/5/22 Other Changes: 1409 Dallas, Texas to Phoenix, Arizona -- Weatherford, Texas has been discontinued 1418 Phoenix, Arizona to Dallas, Texas -- Weatherford, Texas has been discontinued 1425 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Quartzsite, Arizona has been discontinued 1430 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona -- Quartzsite, Arizona has been discontinued 1432 Glendale, California to Phoenix, Arizona -- Quartzsite, Arizona has been discontinued 1464 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona -- Quartzsite, Arizona has been discontinued 1471 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale, California -- Quartzsite, Arizona has been discontinued ** Weatherford, Texas (Population 30,000) and Quartzsite, Arizona (Population 2400) no longer have bus service ** Effective 12/7/22 Abolished: 6050 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California NEW: 6029 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California Other Changes: 1446 -- Oroville and Weed California and Woodburn, Oregon have been removed http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/82-22.pdf Effective 12/12/22 Other Changes: 1312 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1369 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1419 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1425 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1430 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1461 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1464 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 1471 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6002 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6025 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6027 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6048 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6403 Sacramento, California to Tijuana, Mexico -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6410 Tijuana, Mexico to San Francisco, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6414 Los Angeles, California to Sacramento, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6725 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 6825 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 9476 Tijuana, Mexico to Los Angeles, California -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed 9477 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana, Mexico -- Glendale Transit Center, California has been removed http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/84-22.pdf Effective 12/16/22 NEW: 9048 Laredo, Texas to Dallas, Texas 9049 Dallas, Texas to Laredo, Texas Other Changes: 1471 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California and will stop at Los Angeles, California as a discharge only stop. http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/85-22.pdf Effective 12/16/22 NEW: 1457 Dallas, Texas to El Paso, Texas Effective 12/17/22 NEW: 1458 El Paso, Texas to Dallas, Texas 9048 San Antonio, Texas to Dallas, Texas 9049 Dallas, Texas to San Antonio, Texas http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/86-22.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I had to tweak the URL to find this as their bulletins page hasn't changed over to 2023 yet. This is the only bulletin they've released this year. They never posted the last one of 2022 either. Effective 12/26/22 Other Changes: 1510 Dallas, Texas to Richmond, Virginia -- Johnson City, Tennessee has been discontinued 1511 Richmond, Virginia to Dallas, Texas -- Johnson City, Tennessee has been discontinued ** Johnson City, Tennessee (Population 71,000) no longer has intercity bus service ** http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/87-22.pdf Effective 1/1/23 Abolished: COP3800 Jackson, Mississippi to Mobile, Alabama - Capitol/Colonial Trailways Pool COP3801 Mobile, Alabama to Jackson, Mississippi - Capitol/Colonial Trailways Pool Other Changes: 1162 Tallahassee, Florida to St. Louis, Missouri -- Will now be operated by Greyhound instead of Capitol/Colonial Trailways between Tallahassee, Florida and Montgomery, Alabama 1167 St. Louis, Missouri to Tallahassee, Florida -- Will now be operated by Greyhound instead of Capitol/Colonial Trailways between Montgomery, Alabama and Tallahassee, Florida 1246 Houston, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now be operated by Greyhound instead of Capitol/Colonial Trailways between New Orleans, Louisiana and Mobile, Alabama 1563 Atlanta, Georgia to Houston, Texas -- Will now be operated by Greyhound instead of Capitol/Colonial Trailways between Mobile, Alabama and New Orleans, Louisiana Effective 1/4/23 Other Changes: 9045 Dallas, Texas to General Escobedo, Mexico -- Now operated by Valley Transit instead of Greyhound 9336 General Escobedo, Mexico to Dallas, Texas -- Now operated by Valley Transit instead of Greyhound http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/01-23.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Capital/Colonial Trailways, IIRC, was the first Trailways carrier to enter a revenue/schedule pooling agreement with Greyhound. It appears that now they were the last… I wonder if they gave up the line runs entirely, and will only do charters, or will they continue on, perhaps with a new pool partner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, traildriver said: Capital/Colonial Trailways, IIRC, was the first Trailways carrier to enter a revenue/schedule pooling agreement with Greyhound. It appears that now they were the last… I wonder if they gave up the line runs entirely, and will only do charters, or will they continue on, perhaps with a new pool partner? As of right now they are only doing charters. Their carrier codes still show in the NABT Guide online but the timetables are blank. So it appears they have ceased line run operations for now. FWIW the only companies showing as of today in the new Greyhound ticket system are: Greyhound Lines Greyhound Lines Mexico Valley Transit Delta Bus Lines Jefferson Lines Sunway (Evergreen Trails / Horizon Coach Lines) All Aboard America (Industrial Bus Lines) MTR Western Pacific Crest (TAC Transportation) Americanos USA appears to be gone and their runs simply display Greyhound Lines whether they are crossing the border or not. Not included as yet are some big players: Indian Trails Burlington Trailways Miller Barons Bus Southeastern Stages Martz Fullington The Adirondack run that remained in TRIPS... If those are fully excluded the system will shrink considerably. Intertestingly for years Greyhound claimed 2400 destinations. Now on this new site they claim 1900... so where did the other 500 go? It's not like Greyhound abandoned 500 by itself. So I suspect somebody in addition to Adirondack is flying the coop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megabus Rider Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 23 hours ago, ns8401 said: Not included as yet are some big players: Indian Trails Burlington Trailways Miller Barons Bus Southeastern Stages Martz Fullington The Adirondack run that remained in TRIPS... If those are fully excluded the system will shrink considerably. Intertestingly for years Greyhound claimed 2400 destinations. Now on this new site they claim 1900... so where did the other 500 go? It's not like Greyhound abandoned 500 by itself. So I suspect somebody in addition to Adirondack is flying the coop. Miller, Fullington Trailways and Adirondack Trailways are on the Megabus Platform. I would not be surprised if Burlington Trailways and Martz Trailways are going on the Megabus Platform, Martz could also go back on the Ourbus Platform. That leaves Indian Trails, Barons Bus and Southeastern Stages, I would not be surprised if Megabus and Ourbus are trying very hard to get these companies on their platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Megabus Rider said: Miller, Fullington Trailways and Adirondack Trailways are on the Megabus Platform. I would not be surprised if Burlington Trailways and Martz Trailways are going on the Megabus Platform, Martz could also go back on the Ourbus Platform. That leaves Indian Trails, Barons Bus and Southeastern Stages, I would not be surprised if Megabus and Ourbus are trying very hard to get these companies on their platform. Southeastern Stages already went on the Megabus platform last year. Remember they are on the platform but only to sell excess seating. They are still independent carriers selling their own seats. Nobody is getting wedded exclusively to Megabus here. Miller, Burlington and Southeastern Stages will be affiliated with Greyhound until February 21 in addition to any other partnerships they form. Megabus is acting like a ticket reseller now instead of a company that contracts with somebody to do its runs. Miller won’t even be rebranding any buses or anything of the sort. It’s just to move extra seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megabus Rider Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, ns8401 said: Southeastern Stages already went on the Megabus platform last year. Remember they are on the platform but only to sell excess seating. They are still independent carriers selling their own seats. Nobody is getting wedded exclusively to Megabus here. Miller, Burlington and Southeastern Stages will be affiliated with Greyhound until February 21 in addition to any other partnerships they form. Megabus is acting like a ticket reseller now instead of a company that contracts with somebody to do its runs. Miller won’t even be rebranding any buses or anything of the sort. It’s just to move extra seats. Oh I did not know about Southeastern and Megabus, well add them to the Megabus list. Yes, I notice the Greyhound website has changed for any bookings after February 22 or 23. Megabus is trying to be like Ourbus and Flixbus. The new trend in the Intercity Bus Industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Megabus Rider said: Oh I did not know about Southeastern and Megabus, well add them to the Megabus list. Yes, I notice the Greyhound website has changed for any bookings after February 22 or 23. Megabus is trying to be like Ourbus and Flixbus. The new trend in the Intercity Bus Industry. Megabus is trying to be like Wanderu and resell tickets from other carriers. Miller, Southeastern Stages and TNY are and will remain independent companies. It’s not the same as FLIX and Ourbus at all. None of these companies are contractors for Megabus with buses branded that way. They don’t even have a lousy sticker by the door. TNY continues to actively recruit companies to join the Trailways association for example and they have their own ticketing system. So we are entering an era where there are multiple ticket systems being used on the same run depending on where the ticket was bought (Amtrak/Trailways/Megabus/insert independent carrier here). This will allow all of them to partner with other folks and still remain autonomous while preserving interline service once they are severed from Greyhound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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