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17 hours ago, Megabus Rider said:

My friend told me when he started service in August of last year, the passengers reported GWB to be a better Terminal than PABT as there was almost no homeless people walking around GWB. As of last month, the homeless people have turned GWB into PABT. Somebody spread the work about Ourbus lol

We seem to be a homeless clearinghouse… it’s a real issue. Repeat customers too…

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Effective 8/5/22

Abolished:

9469 Los Angeles California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9479 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9494 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California

AAU 8994 Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to San Ysidro, California

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/51-22.pdf

 

Effective 8/13/22

Other Changes:

1683 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will bypass Salina, Kansas

1684 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York --  Will bypass Salina, Kansas

 

Effective 8/17/22

Abolished:

1412 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas

1417 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California

1551 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas

1552 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia

1690 Kansas City, Missouri to New York, New York

1691 New York, New York to Kansas City, Missouri

AAU 7256 Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to Los Angeles, California

7525 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9456 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California

AAU 9487 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/52-22.pdf

 

Effective 8/11/22

Abolished:

2002 New York, New York to Springfield, Massachusetts

2003 Springfield, Massachusetts to New York, New York

3957 Atlanta, Georgia to Savannah, Georgia

3960 Savannah, Georgia to Atlanta, Georgia

4005 Albany, New York to New York, New York

4006 New York, New York to Albany, New York

 

NEW:

4013 Montreal, Quebec to New York, New York

4034 New York, New York to Montreal, Quebec

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/53-22.pdf

 

Effective 8/17/22

Other Changes:

1502 Dallas, Texas to Detroit, Michigan -- Will bypass Greenville, Texas

1518 Dallas, Texas to Nashville, Tennessee -- Will bypass Greenville, Texas,  Mt. Pleasant, Texas and Forrest City, Arkansas

1541 Richmond, Virginia to Dallas, Texas -- Will operate via Jackson, Tennessee

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/54-22.pdf

 

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Some changes for the fall... Most of these coincide with or are near the new run bid starting the 7th.

 

Effective 8/26/22

Abolished:

6895 Sacramento, California to Los Angeles, California

6896 Los Angeles, California to Sacramento, California

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/56-22.pdf

 

Effective 9/1/22:

Abolished:

4156

4157

 

NEW:

7224 Houston, Texas to Dallas, Texas

7225 Dallas, Texas to Houston, Texas

7303 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma to Dallas, Texas

7304 Dallas, Texas to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

 

Effective 9/7/22

Abolished:

1088 Columbia, South Carolina to Charlotte, North Carolina

1091 Charlotte, North Carolina to Columbia, South Carolina

1549 Detroit, Michigan to Atlanta, Georgia

1550 Atlanta, Georgia to Detroit, Michigan

 

NEW:

1634 Cleveland, Ohio to Washington D.C.

1643 Cleveland, Ohio to Chicago, Illinois

4343 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Louisville, Kentucky

4344 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois

4345 Chicago, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4347 Chicago, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4348 Louisville, Kentucky to Chicago, Illinois

4351 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4386 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois

4394 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4396 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois

4423 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

6897 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California

6898 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California

 

Other Changes:

250 New York, New York to Buffalo, New York -- Will bypass Scranton, Pennsylvania and Batavia, New York and Will now operate from New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario

252 New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Buffalo, New York

258 New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario -- Will operate via Scranton, Pennsylvania

321 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Buffalo, New York to New York, New York

329 Buffalo, New York to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York

1092 Jacksonville, Florida to Charlotte, North Carolina -- Will bypass Brunswick and Hinesville Fleming, Georgia

1123 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1143 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Louisville, Kentucky to Atlanta, Georgia

1144 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1145 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1147 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1148 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Louisville, Kentucky

1151 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1186 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1194 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1196 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois -- Will Now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1541 Richmond, Virginia to Dallas, Texas -- Will bypass Crossville and Cookeville, Tennessee

1636 Chicago, Illinois to Washington D.C. -- Will now operate from Chicago, Illinois to Cleveland, Ohio

1645 Washington D.C. to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Washington D.C. to Cleveland, Ohio

6770 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California -- Will operate via Hayward, California

 

Effective 9/8/22

New:

V833 Houston Southeast, Texas to Corpus Christie, Texas

V834 Corpus Christie, Texas to Houston Southeast, Texas

V857 Laredo, Texas to Harlingen, Texas

V858 Harlingen, Texas to Laredo, Texas

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/57-22.pdf

 

Effective 9/10/22

Abolished:

4403 Cleveland, Ohio to Detroit, Michigan

4404 Detroit, Michigan to Cleveland, Ohio

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/58-22.pdf

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Effective 9/14/22

Other Changes:

312 Raleigh, North Carolina to Jacksonville, North Carolina --Will operate via New Bern, North Carolina

333 Raleigh, North Carolina to Wilmington, North Carolina -- Will operate via Goldsboro Transit, North Carolina

391 Jacksonville, North Carolina to Raleigh, North Carolina -- Will operate via New Bern, North Carolina

392 Wilmington, North Carolina to Raleigh, North Carolina -- Will operate via Goldsboro Transit, North Carolina

393 Raleigh, North Carolina to Wilmington, North Carolina -- Will operate via Smithfield, North Carolina

444 Wilmington, North Carolina to Raleigh, North Carolina -- Will operate via Clinton and Smithfield, North Carolina

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/60-22.pdf

 

Effective 9/17/22

Abolished:

6897 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California

6898 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California

7311 Lubbock, Texas to Dallas, Texas

7312 Dallas, Texas to Lubbock, Texas

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/62-22.pdf

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On 9/2/2022 at 10:42 PM, ns8401 said:

NEW:

1634 Cleveland, Ohio to Washington D.C.

1643 Cleveland, Ohio to Chicago, Illinois

4343 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Louisville, Kentucky

4344 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois

4345 Chicago, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4347 Chicago, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4348 Louisville, Kentucky to Chicago, Illinois

4351 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4386 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois

4394 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

4396 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois

4423 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Nashville, Tennessee

6897 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California

6898 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California

 

1123 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1143 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Louisville, Kentucky to Atlanta, Georgia

1144 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1145 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1147 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1148 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Louisville, Kentucky

1151 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Nashville, Tennessee to Atlanta, Georgia

1186 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1194 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1196 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois -- Will Now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Nashville, Tennessee

1541 Richmond, Virginia to Dallas, Texas -- Will bypass Crossville and Cookeville, Tennessee

1636 Chicago, Illinois to Washington D.C. -- Will now operate from Chicago, Illinois to Cleveland, Ohio

1645 Washington D.C. to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Washington D.C. to Cleveland, Ohio

6770 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California -- Will operate via Hayward, California

 

Lots of what used to be through runs are now two schedule numbers. I wonder why? Wonder if it will increase OTP,  but seeing that there is a driver shortage, probably not.

Hopefully these transferring passengers aleast get a new bus

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On 9/17/2022 at 6:03 AM, Rapidbus said:

Lots of what used to be through runs are now two schedule numbers. I wonder why? Wonder if it will increase OTP,  but seeing that there is a driver shortage, probably not.

Hopefully these transferring passengers aleast get a new bus

I wonder if it has to do with the idea of having reboards and people sitting on the bus for an hour at a station and stuff like that. Or the bus gets cancelled beyond where they are at. Now they have to get off and be inside a station before they can continue no matter what happens to that next bus. 
 

It could also be accounting or connections with other routes.

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Interesting.   Lot's of possible reasons, as cited.   One thing for sure,  in todays reduced operations, there is no shortage of trip numbers available for use...unlike large airlines that now have to recycle the same flight number outbound, and then back inbound in opposite directions to their hubs....

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Greyhound messed up and didn't post this one in time. But long story short Bowling Green, Kentucky which has a population of 70,000 now has no bus service. Greyhound has discontinued the stop, 2 years after they closed their station and moved out of town to the interstate. It looks like it was fairly busy. They were the only carrier servicing the city. Maybe Miller will pick it up.

 

Effective 9/3/22

Other Changes:

1143 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

1144 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

1147 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

1148 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

1194 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

1537 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

4347 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

 

Effective 9/7/22

Other Changes:

1196 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

4344 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

4394 Bowling Green, Kentucky has been discontinued

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/59-22.pdf

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Effective 9/17/22

Other Changes:

333 Raleigh, North Carolina to Wilmington, North Carolina  -- Goldsboro, North Carolina has been discontinued. Will now stop at Goldsboro Transit, North Carolina.

392 Wilmington, North Carolina to Raleigh, North Carolina -- Goldsboro, North Carolina has been discontinued. Will now stop at Goldsboro Transit, North Carolina.

393 Raleigh, North Carolina to Wilmington, North Carolina -- Goldsboro, North Carolina has been discontinued. Will now stop at Goldsboro Transit, North Carolina.

444 Wilmington, North Carolina to Raliegh, North Carolina -- Goldsboro, North Carolina has been discontinued. Will now stop at Goldsboro Transit, North Carolina.

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/63-22.pdf

 

Effective 9/22/22

Abolished:

9614 Los Angeles, California to Calexico, California

9615 Calexico, California to Los Angeles, California

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/64-22.pdf

 

Effective 9/24/22

Other Changes:

7328 Dallas, Texas to Tulsa, Oklahoma -- Muskogee, Oklahoma has been discontinued

7329 Tulsa, Oklahoma to Dallas, Texas -- Muskogee, Oklahoma has been discontinued

** Muskogee, Oklahoma no longer has any bus service. **

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/65-22.pdf

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Effective 9/28/22

Other Changes:

8303 -- San Jose, California has been discontinued

8314 -- San Jose, California has been discontinued

 

Effective 9/29/22

NEW:

FLX 1120 Orlando, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia

FLX 1121 Atlanta, Georgia to Orlando, Florida

FLX 1401 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California

FLX 1402 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona

FLX 1403 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California

FLX 1404 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona

FLX 3783 Orlando, Florida to Miami, Florida

FLX 3784 Miami, Florida to Orlando, Florida

** These are FLIX schedules that use Greyhound facilities and are bookable through both the FLIX and Greyhound sites. They are not trackable in bus tracker and it doesn't list a contract carrier on the FLIX side. **

 

Effective 10/1/22

Other Changes:

V9563 San Antonio, Texas to Harlingen, Texas -- Will operate via Corpus Christi West, Texas and bypass Corpus Christi, Texas

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/66-22.pdf

 

Effective 10/5/22

Abolished:

6747 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California

6748 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California

 

Effective 10/7/22

Other Changes:

3749 Tampa, Florida to Miami, Florida -- Fort Myers, Florida has been discontinued because of Hurricane Ian.

3754 Miami, Florida to Tampa, Florida -- Fort Myers, Florida has been discontinued because of Hurricane Ian.

3756 Naples, Florida to Orlando, Florida -- Fort Myers, Florida has been discontinued because of Hurricane Ian.

3757 Orlando, Florida to Naples, Florida -- Fort Myers, Florida has been discontinued because of Hurricane Ian.

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/67-22.pdf

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7 hours ago, ns8401 said:

 

Effective 9/29/22

NEW:

FLX 1120 Orlando, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia

FLX 1121 Atlanta, Georgia to Orlando, Florida

FLX 1401 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California

FLX 1402 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona

FLX 1403 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California

FLX 1404 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona

FLX 3783 Orlando, Florida to Miami, Florida

FLX 3784 Miami, Florida to Orlando, Florida

** These are FLIX schedules that use Greyhound facilities and are bookable through both the FLIX and Greyhound sites. They are not trackable in bus tracker and it doesn't list a contract carrier on the FLIX side. **

I am guessing with Greyhound being separate from Flixbus, Greyhound would be the 'Contractor"

There would be no need to list Greyhound as the contractor since both schedules can be booked on either website. As for the tracker, I am guessing Greyhound and Flixbus Trackers are not compatible, furthermore if Passengers booked on the Flixbus Website, the Station Agent will have to use the Driver app to access the manifest. While the Station Agent will have Greyhound's Manifest on their current systems. Just my hunch, I could be wrong.

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4 hours ago, Megabus Rider said:

I am guessing with Greyhound being separate from Flixbus, Greyhound would be the 'Contractor"

There would be no need to list Greyhound as the contractor since both schedules can be booked on either website. As for the tracker, I am guessing Greyhound and Flixbus Trackers are not compatible, furthermore if Passengers booked on the Flixbus Website, the Station Agent will have to use the Driver app to access the manifest. While the Station Agent will have Greyhound's Manifest on their current systems. Just my hunch, I could be wrong.

There are a lot of FLIX routes that list themselves as the contractor despite not owning any buses. Greyhound and FLIX trackers are not compatible but they are treating this like they would a schedule from Indian Trails or Jefferson Lines. It’s an interlining schedule. There is no access to those manifests by an agent on the TRIPS system unless you are on the version that company specifically uses. So my Greyhound agent in Detroit can print a Greyhound manifest and see where everybody is going no problem. He cannot do the same for my run since I work for a partner carrier and not Greyhound. The key is that the prefix is FLX and not GLI. That automatically makes it not accessible in the system. You CAN however look at numbers… how many get on and off at each stop or how many passengers it’ll have leaving a specific place. Since the TRIPS system has to keep track of seat counts to know whether it can sell a ticket or not they have been linked somehow with the FLIX site. My guess is that the FLIX site is feeding TRIPS information and vice versa. By early next year Greyhound will transition over to the FLIX ticketing system is what I’m hearing now. 
 

There are a lot of things about how Greyhounds system works that don’t make sense. The tracker is one, all the buses across all the companies should be trackable in one place, it would be an investment up front but it would greatly improve the experience since everyone thinks they are on Greyhound the entire time anyways and gets mad that they don’t know how to use the different apps the other companies have or they don’t know that they exist. Then the lack of unified access to everything despite needing the information for missed connections and things in the ticketing system is another. Hopefully FLIX recognizes the deficiencies in the way Greyhound operates but from what I’ve heard about their way of going about changing things I’m not optimistic.

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Another round of major service redesign... For one thing the Los Angeles station is no longer a terminal point and now "Glendale Transit Center" is the terminal with a stop at Los Angeles. Only a couple runs still start at Los Angeles proper. They must have a sale of the LA station in the works. Also the New York to LA transcontinental routes have broken into pieces. Lots of Mexico to deep in California runs added and also some cross border service to Vancouver. It was complicated to write it up to say the least.

Effective 10/14/22

Other Changes:

3749 Tampa, Florida to Miami, Florida -- Port Charlotte, Florida has been discontinued

3754 Miami, Florida to Tampa, Florida  -- Port Charlotte, Florida has been discontinued

3756 Naples, Florida to Orlando, Florida  -- Port Charlotte, Florida has been discontinued

3757 Orlando, Florida to Naples, Florida  -- Port Charlotte, Florida has been discontinued

 

Effective 10/15/22

Other Changes:

1167 St. Louis, Missouri to Tallahassee, Florida -- Will operate via Madisonville, Kentucky

4396 Nashville, Tennessee to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate through to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois

4702 Nashville, Tennessee to St. Louis, Missouri -- Will operate via Madisonville, Kentucky

 

Effective 10/19/22

Abolished:

6011 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California

6024 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6836 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California

6837 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California

6848 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California

6849 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California

6861 Sacramento, California to Los Angeles, California

6901 Stanfield, Oregon to Seattle, Washington

6910 Seattle, Washington to Stanfield, Oregon

AAU7700 ? Americanos USA

AAU8984 ? Americanos USA

AAU8985 ? Americanos USA 

AAU8986 ? Americanos USA

AAU8990 ? Americanos USA

AAU8993 ? Americanos USA

9471 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9474 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California 

9486 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California

9488 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California

9489 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9493 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9495 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9498 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California

9606 Los Angeles, California to Sacramento, California

 

NEW:

1312 Glendale Transit Center, California to Phoenix, Arizona

1322 Phoenix, Arizona to St. Louis, Missouri

1338 Glendale Transit Center, California to Phoenix, Arizona

1348 Phoenix, Arizona to St. Louis, Missouri

1349 St. Louis, Missouri to Phoenix, Arizona

1355 St. Louis, Missouri to Phoenix, Arizona

1357 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California

1369 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California

1419 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California

1425 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California

1428 Glendale Transit Center, California to Phoenix, Arizona

1430 Glendale Transit Center, California to Phoenix, Arizona

1432 Glendale Transit Center, California to Phoenix, Arizona

1461 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California

1464 Glendale Transit Center, California to Phoenix, Arizona

1471 Phoenix, Arizona to Glendale Transit Center, California

1663 Denver, Colorado to Las Vegas, Nevada

1664 Las Vegas, Nevada to Denver, Colorado

1673 St. Louis, Missouri to Denver, Colorado

1674 Denver, Colorado to St. Louis, Missouri

6056 Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6057 Las Vegas, Nevada to Glendale Transit Center, California

6402 Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to Sacramento, California

6403 Sacramento, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

6404 Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to Fresno, California

6405 Fresno, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

6406 Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to Sacramento, California

6407 Sacramento, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

6410 Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to San Francisco, California

6411 San Francisco, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

6414 Las Vegas, Nevada to Sacramento, California

6415 Sacramento, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6531 Vancouver, British Columbia to Seattle, Washington

6536 Seattle, Washington to Vancouver, British Columbia

6546 Seattle, Washington to Vancouver, British Columbia

6549 Vancouver, British Columbia to Seattle, Washington

 

Other Changes:

1339 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from New York, New York to St. Louis, Missouri

1342 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will now operate from St. Louis, Missouri to New York, New York

1351 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from New York, New York, to St. Louis, Missouri

1358 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will now operate from St. Louis, Missouri to New York, New York

1409 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Dallas, Texas to Phoenix, Arizona

1410 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas -- Will now operate from Phoenix, Arizona to Dallas, Texas

1411 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Dallas, Texas to Phoenix, Arizona

1415 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Dallas, Texas to Phoenix, Arizona

1418 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas -- Will now operate from Phoenix, Arizona to Dallas, Texas

1421 Houston, Texas to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Houston, Texas to Phoenix, Arizona

1422 Los Angeles, California to Houston, Texas -- Will now operate from Phoenix, Arizona to Houston, Texas

1431 Vancouver, British Columbia to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Seattle, Washington to Sacramento, California

1436 Los Angeles, California to Vancouver, British Columbia -- Will now operate from Sacramento, California to Seattle, Washington 

1446 Los Angeles, California to Vancouver, British Columbia -- Will now operate from Sacramento, California to Seattle, Washington

1449 Vancouver, British Columbia to Seattle, Washington -- Will now operate from Seattle, Washington to Sacramento, California

1454 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas -- Will now operate from Phoenix, Arizona to Dallas, Texas

1683 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from New York, New York to St. Louis, Missouri

1684 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will now operate from St. Louis, Missouri to New York, New York

6002 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6025 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6027 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Las Vegas, Nevada to Glendale Transit Center, California

6048 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6054 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6055 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Las Vegas, Nevada to Glendale Transit Center, California

6725 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from San Francisco, California to Glendale Transit Center, California and will operate via Santa Maria, California

6741 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from San Francisco, California to Glendale Transit Center, California

6766 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to San Francisco, California

6770 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to San Francisco, California

6825 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via Glendale Transit Center, California

6835 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Fresno, California to Glendale Transit Center, California

6840 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California -- Will now operate via Glendale Transit Center, California

6892 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Fresno, California

6903 Seattle, Washington to Spokane, Washington -- Was direct. Now stops in Ellensburg, Yakima, Sunnyside and Pasco, Washington and Stanfield, Oregon

6904 Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington -- Was direct. Now stops in Pasco, Washington and Stanfield, Oregon and Sunnyside, Yakima and Ellensburg, Washington. 

9472 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to Glendale Transit Center, California

9473 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

9476 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will now operate from Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico to Glendale Transit Center, California

9477 Los Angeles, California to San Ysidro, California -- Will now operate from Glendale Transit Center, California to Tijuana Central Bus Terminal, Mexico

 

Effective 10/21/22

Abolished:

1097 Charlotte, North Carolina to Jacksonville, Florida

 

NEW:

1091 Charlotte, North Carolina to Columbia, South Carolina

 

Other Changes:

1092 Jacksonville, Florida to Charlotte, North Carolina -- Will now operate from Columbia, South Carolina to Charlotte, North Carolina

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/69-22.pdf

 

Effective 10/18/22

Other Changes:

3749 Tampa, Florida to Miami, Florida -- Ft. Myers, Florida has been reinstated

3754 Miami, Florida to Tampa, Florida -- Ft. Myers, Florida has been reinstated

3756 Naples, Florida to Orlando, Florida -- Ft. Myers, Florida has been reinstated

3757 Orlando, Florida to Naples, Florida -- Ft. Myers, Florida has been reinstated

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/70-22.pdf

 

Effective 10/18/22

Other Changes:

1516 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta Georgia -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued, will operate via Vicksburg, Mississippi

1523 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued, will operate via Vicksburg, Mississippi

1525 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued, will operate via Vicksburg, Mississippi

1526 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued, will operate via Vicksburg, Mississippi

1530 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued, will operate via Vicksburg, Mississippi

1567 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued, will operate via Vicksburg, Mississippi

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/71-22.pdf

 

Effective 10/19/22

Other Changes:

COP3800 Mobile, Alabama to Jackson, Mississippi -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued. Will now operate from Mobile, Alabama to Vicksburg, Mississippi

COP3801 Jackson, Mississippi to Mobile, Alabama -- Jackson, Mississippi has been discontinued. Will now operate from Vicksburg, Mississippi to Mobile Alabama

** Both schedules are pooled with Capital / Colonial Trailways **

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/72-22.pdf

 

Effective 10/26/22

Other Changes:

4470 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Detroit, Michigan -- Dearborn Amtrak, Michigan has been discontinued

8002 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York

8005 New York, New York to Camden, New Jersey -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

 

Effective 11/1/22

Other Changes:

1359 Memphis, Tennessee to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma -- Will operate via Forrest City, Arkansas

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/73-22.pdf

 

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2 hours ago, ns8401 said:

Also the New York to LA transcontinental routes have broken into pieces.

I don't get that...

About 15 or so years ago, Greyhound did similar...broke former thru trips into shorter connecting segments, but in more recent years, slowly rejoined some of them into thru trips again.

Now this.🤷‍♂️

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LA station was already sold in 2021 and leased back. The sale of the historic fleet coincides with Greyhound moving out since the historic fleet was parked in Los Angeles.

They didn't add any actual Mexico to deep in California runs or cross border service to Vancouver. They just broke up the Los Angeles to Vancouver thru runs (former 1436/1431/1446/1449) at Sacramento and Seattle. They're probably breaking up runs so that they can more easily terminate segments to farm out to contractors. Also if Greyhound gets state subsides, the new routes could make it easier to apply for grants since the states stipulate that funds only go toward the portion of each route in that state.

The new runs from Mexico are the former Los Angeles to Tijuana runs glued onto the former California runs heading north out of LA, apparently to avoid originating any runs from LA. For example the new Tijuana to Fresno is the former Tijuana to Los Angeles grafted onto the former Los Angeles to Fresno.

Another big change is that Jackson, Mississippi now apparently has no intercity bus service at all.

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5 hours ago, Swadian said:

LA station was already sold in 2021 and leased back. The sale of the historic fleet coincides with Greyhound moving out since the historic fleet was parked in Los Angeles.

They didn't add any actual Mexico to deep in California runs or cross border service to Vancouver. They just broke up the Los Angeles to Vancouver thru runs (former 1436/1431/1446/1449) at Sacramento and Seattle. They're probably breaking up runs so that they can more easily terminate segments to farm out to contractors. Also if Greyhound gets state subsides, the new routes could make it easier to apply for grants since the states stipulate that funds only go toward the portion of each route in that state.

The new runs from Mexico are the former Los Angeles to Tijuana runs glued onto the former California runs heading north out of LA, apparently to avoid originating any runs from LA. For example the new Tijuana to Fresno is the former Tijuana to Los Angeles grafted onto the former Los Angeles to Fresno.

Another big change is that Jackson, Mississippi now apparently has no intercity bus service at all.

Right they stuck the Mexico to California stuff together going well beyond LA and also made the Vancouver stuff just do Seattle-Vancouver. Then they broke the Transcons into 3 or 4 pieces. It sure looks like a way to get rid of the runs using contractors when the time comes. If you want to go far on that end of the country now you’ll be transferring a lot more coming from the east and a lot less from Mexico. It’s a trade off I suppose.

Random thoughts:

I strongly suspect that whoever owns the LA station is getting Greyhound out entirely here soon. Glendale Transit Center will probably become the LA stop. It doesn’t seem to be that far away really. They’ve certainly set it up to axe LA when the time comes. 
 

Are they hanging on at the LA Maintanance base or is the owner (First still or was it sold?) of that making a move on it too? Considering the historic fleet is leaving I assume it may be closing at some point. The land both buildings are on is probably worth a lot. With FLIX getting none of Greyhounds real estate this was inevitable.  Just waiting for the pink slips to fly and them to shut down Greyhounds physical operations. I gotta imagine that’s the end game for FLIX. 
 

The tea leaves also seem to say that if the terms to do a FLIX style partnership are lousy the interline partners will walk out on Greyhound. It’s very possible they will form their own competing service. Some of the companies are already talking to each other about doing what New York / Adirondack Trailways did and leaving the network to go it alone. Forging connections with the other current carriers they can cover at least 2/3rds if the country if not more. Nobody NEEDS Greyhound to make it work  anymore.

Meanwhile…
Greyhound is in a dispute with the city of Jackson over the condition of the Amtrak station / bus station there. It needs a million or so in upgrades the city doesn’t have money for. They also don’t like all the homeless folks hanging around. That’s a strange stance for Greyhound. They are ubiquitous at the stations. The time to worry about that was decades ago. I suspect their newfound disdain is FLIX influenced. So for now Vicksburg it is… what a sad state of affairs when a state Capitol has no service.

6 hours ago, traildriver said:

I don't get that...

About 15 or so years ago, Greyhound did similar...broke former thru trips into shorter connecting segments, but in more recent years, slowly rejoined some of them into thru trips again.

Now this.🤷‍♂️

I don’t know what the end game is unless the runs will be farmed out and the west coast is the Guinea pig. If I were a Greyhound driver out there I would be getting nervous.

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13 hours ago, ns8401 said:

If I were a Greyhound driver out there I would be getting nervous.

Any driver for Greyhound should have seen "the handwriting on the wall", for several years now.   Fortunately, any driver with a CDL and a clean driving record will have no trouble finding another job.   I retired from ADT, 5 years ago, and had no problem getting a new job last year.  I had several to choose from, that would have hired me, even at my age.  I ultimately chose one, (Academy Bus), that lets me make my own schedule, and gives me time off whenever I want...great retirement job!

I imagine IT has some former GL drivers?😉

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Los Angeles Terminal operations are already moved to LA Union Station. The old terminal, is for all points and purposes no more. I suspect, the station didn't want to deal with transfer passengers hence Glendale. LA union Station in my opinion is much better than the old terminal, which was for all purposes in a seedy part of the neighborhood 

On 10/26/2022 at 8:52 PM, ns8401 said:

6903 Seattle, Washington to Spokane, Washington -- Was direct. Now stops in Ellensburg, Yakima, Sunnyside and Pasco, Washington and Stanfield, Oregon

6904 Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington -- Was direct. Now stops in Pasco, Washington and Stanfield, Oregon and Sunnyside, Yakima and Ellensburg, Washington. 

l wonder why they don't just run it to Portland instead. I guess they are still trying to force everyone onto the Boise, ID bus. This is a region, I'm actually hoping Flix just comes in and introduce more point and point service from Spokane. GH completely destroyed their network in the PNW, I'm not even sure if they can recover from it.

If Flix takes over the Spokane runs, that would leave GH with the Sea - Vancouvers, Sacramento - Seattle main lines and the Port Angeles contract left. 

On 10/27/2022 at 5:27 AM, ns8401 said:

Greyhound is in a dispute with the city of Jackson over the condition of the Amtrak station / bus station there. It needs a million or so in upgrades the city doesn’t have money for. They also don’t like all the homeless folks hanging around. That’s a strange stance for Greyhound. They are ubiquitous at the stations. The time to worry about that was decades ago. I suspect their newfound disdain is FLIX influenced. So for now Vicksburg it is… what a sad state of affairs when a state Capitol has no service.

I don’t know what the end game is unless the runs will be farmed out and the west coast is the Guinea pig. If I were a Greyhound driver out there I would be getting nervous.

Based on the lawsuit JRA had a problem with Greyhound dating back to 2019 it seems

 

Long transcon trips do unfortunately seem to be broken up into pieces, and I suspect that it will not be the end of that. The sad thing is that even though the trips are broken up, they provide no noticeable benefit for the passengers, except requiring pax to transfer baggage, sometimes in the middle of the night. This is most likely due to the connections/transfers at all points of the network

 

I don't know how the Flix partner model will work for Greyhound. Some trips are way too long, especially in the middle of the country from any major partner base to be farmed out. More than likely, we'll see a gradual Greyhound service retreat from the plains, west, and midwest, to be replaced by the current interline partners or Flix service

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8 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

Where is the LA Terminal exactly located? Perhaps the owner wants to tear it to make condo's or apts or some other commercial or residential property?

Used to be located at 1716 East 7th Street in LA. They moved out a couple of weeks ago, and everything goes to LA - Union and Glendale

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Effective 10/25/22

NEW:

6024 Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada 

6050 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California

 

Other Changes:

6414 Las Vegas, Nevada to Sacramento, California -- Will now operate from Los Angeles, California to Sacramento, California

6415 Sacramento, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Will now operate from Sacramento, California to Los Angeles, California

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/74-22.pdf

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Effective 11/1/22

NEW:

4177 Albany, New York to Syracuse, New York
4188 Syracuse, New York to Albany, New York

 

Other Changes:

4175 Boston, Massachusetts to Syracuse, New York -- Will now operate from Boston, Massachusetts to Albany, New York

4194 Syracuse, New York to Boston, Massachusetts -- Will now operate from Albany, New York to Boston, Massachusetts

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/76-22.pdf

 

Effective 11/2/22

Other Changes:

1431 Seattle, Washington to Sacramento, California -- Salem, Oregon has been discontinued

1436 Sacramento, California to Seattle, Washington  -- Salem, Oregon has been discontinued

1446 Sacramento, California to Seattle, Washington -- Salem, Oregon has been discontinued

1449 Seattle, Washington to Sacramento, California -- Salem, Oregon has been discontinued

** Salem, Oregon (Population 177,000) No longer has service **

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/77-22.pdf

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On 11/13/2022 at 7:05 AM, traildriver said:

Doesn't seem smart to abandon a state capital, especially that size...🤷‍♂️

No it doesn't... I forgot to include that they have established a new stop in Woodburn, Oregon. It's to the northeast of Salem. 

 

Effective 11/19/22

6835 Fresno, California to Glendale Transit Center, California -- Will now operate from Fresno, California to Glendale Transit Center, California

6892 Glendale Transit Center, California to Fresno, California -- Will by-pass Glendale Transit Center, California and originate at Los Angeles, California

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/79-22.pdf 

On 10/27/2022 at 7:02 PM, traildriver said:

Any driver for Greyhound should have seen "the handwriting on the wall", for several years now.   Fortunately, any driver with a CDL and a clean driving record will have no trouble finding another job.   I retired from ADT, 5 years ago, and had no problem getting a new job last year.  I had several to choose from, that would have hired me, even at my age.  I ultimately chose one, (Academy Bus), that lets me make my own schedule, and gives me time off whenever I want...great retirement job!

I imagine IT has some former GL drivers?😉

Interestingly we don't. For that matter I can only think of two people from another coach company out of 51 drivers. I'm not exactly sure why. I did have a Greyhound driver ask me if we were hiring a couple days ago. I know a former Greyhound driver interviewed recently but ultimately didn't get it or turned it down. Most of our people either drove truck, school bus or for the vast majority... they don't have a CDL and we train them to get one. I asked once why we don't tend to get very many folks from other coach companies... something about not wanting to go through the trouble of breaking bad habits. The trouble is that the new folks that aren't used to the hours have a hard time adjusting and so retention is an issue. We had 81 before the pandemic and 49 when everybody was called back from layoff and had to return or leave. We have hired 33 drivers.. sounds good right? We have lost 31 drivers including several experienced ones plus the new folks that burn out or don't make it. 18 months later we have... 51 drivers. Not exactly a great score.

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