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Lots of changes...

Effective 1/5/22

Abolished:

8515 New York, New York to Atlantic City, New Jersey

8518 Atlantic City Casinos, New Jersey to New York, New York

 

Effective 1/12/22

Abolished:

1013 New York, New York to Miami, Florida

1018 Miami, Florida to New York, New York

1041 New York, New York to Atlanta, Georgia

1046 Atlanta, Georgia to New York, New York

1088 Columbia, South Carolina to Charlotte, North Carolina

1095 Charlotte, North Carolina to Columbia, South Carolina

1142 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois

1145 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia

1151 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia

1194 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois

1258 Mobile, Alabama to Orlando, Florida

1285 Atlanta, Georgia to Houston, Texas

1287 Miami, Florida to Mobile, Alabama

1288 Houston, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia

1520 Dallas, Texas to Richmond, Virginia

1523 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas

1530 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia

1541 Richmond, Virginia to Dallas, Texas

1607 Washington D.C. to Chicago, Illinois

1688 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York

1695 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California

2508 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts

2513 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York

2761 Buffalo, New York to Toronto, Ontario

2762 Toronto, Ontario to Buffalo, New York

2763 Buffalo, New York to Toronto, Ontario

2764 Toronto, Ontario to Buffalo, New York

2765 Buffalo, New York to Toronto, Ontario

2766 Toronto, Ontario to Buffalo, New York

4723 Minneapolis, Minnesota to Chicago, Illinois

4918 Chicago, Illinois to Minneapolis, Minnesota

6012 Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6039 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California

6315 Phoenix, Arizona to San Diego, California

6318 San Diego, California to Phoenix, Arizona

6818 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California

6841 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California

7263 Dallas, Texas to Houston, Texas

7264 Houston, Texas to Dallas, Texas

7326 Dallas, Texas to Kansas City, Missouri

7341 Kansas City, Missouri to Dallas, Texas

 

NEW:

1633 Cleveland, Ohio to Chicago, Illinois

3302 Dallas, Texas to Chicago, Illinois

3303 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Dallas, Texas

4428 Detroit, Michigan to Cleveland, Ohio

4429 Cleveland, Ohio to Detroit, Michigan

4668 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Washington D.C.

4669 Washington D.C. to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

4721 Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Chicago, Illinois

4724 Chicago, Illinois to Milwaukee, Wisconsin

 

Other Changes:

206 New York, New York to Buffalo, New York -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Syracuse, New York

256 New York, New York to Buffalo, New York -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario

258 New York, New York to Buffalo, New York -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario

305 Buffalo, New York to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York

321 Buffalo, New York to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York

323 Buffalo, New York to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York

344 New York, New York to Syracuse, New York -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Toronto, Onatrio

1090 Charlotte, North Carolina to Detroit, Michigan -- The meal stop at Columbus, Ohio has been removed

1093 Detroit, Michigan to Charlotte, North Carolina -- The meal stop at Columbus, Ohio has been removed. Will operate via Beckley, West Virginia (McDonald's)

1099 New York, New York to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will bypass Newark, New Jersey and RS Delaware House, Delaware and will operate via Washington D.C.

1110 Orlando, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Miami, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia

1145 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will now operate from Chicago, Illinois to Cincinnati, Ohio

1156 Atlanta, Georgia to Cleveland, Ohio -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's) removing the meal stop at Columbus, Ohio

1194 Atlanta Georgia to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois -- Will now operate from Cincinnati, Ohio to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois

1339 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's)

1342 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's)

1351 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's)

1358 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's)

1510 Dallas, Texas to Richmond, Virginia -- Will operate via Malvern, Arkansas

1537 Cleveland, Ohio to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's) removing the meal stop at Columbus, Ohio

1567 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas -- Marshall, Texas and Kilgore, Texas have been discontinued

1590 Houston, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will operate via Port Arthur, Texas

1596 Houston, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia -- Will operate via Orange, Texas

1683 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's)

1684 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will Operate via RS Springfield, Ohio (Love's)

1632 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Washington D.C. -- Will now operate from Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Cleveland, Ohio

3209 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -- Will operate via Newark, New Jersey and Camden, New Jersey

3569 New York, New York to Richmond, Virginia -- The discharge only stop at Oak Hall, Virginia (T's Corner) has been discontinued

3570 Richmond, Virginia to New York, New York -- The discharge only at University of Maryland, Maryland (Student Cvs Center) has been discontinued

4414 Detroit, Michigan to New York, New York -- Toledo, Ohio has been discontinued. Will operate via Allentown, Pennsylvania.

4427 New York, New York to Detroit, Michigan -- Will operate via Allentown, Pennsylvania

4722 Chicago, Illinois to Minneapolis, Minnesota -- Will operate via Madison, Wisconsin

9615 Calexico, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will Bypass Claremont, California and El Monte, California

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/02-22.pdf

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On 1/12/2022 at 11:15 PM, ns8401 said:

Lots of changes...

Effective 1/5/22

Abolished:

8515 New York, New York to Atlantic City, New Jersey

8518 Atlantic City Casinos, New Jersey to New York, New York

This leaves the last Atlantic City departure at 5PM. Doesn't really seem conductive to day travelers. Plus it seems like they raise the price for a one way trip on that corridor signifcantly. Seems like GH quit there

 

Effective 1/12/22

Abolished:

1013 New York, New York to Miami, Florida

1018 Miami, Florida to New York, New York

Well there goes the second Miami - New York trip. They could've at least keep the portion between Richmond and Miami, and force everyone to connect from the NY-Atlanta bus at Richmond. but I guess they are focused on reductions for now.

 

1041 New York, New York to Atlanta, Georgia

1046 Atlanta, Georgia to New York, New York

Once again, they could've saved the Richmond- ATL portion. The southbound, I am okay with it going, but northbound, it leaves a pretty big gap between early morning and late at night

 

On 1/12/2022 at 11:15 PM, ns8401 said:

1145 Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia

1151 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia

Once again cutting 1145 and 1151 leaves a large gap for local travel 

1258 Mobile, Alabama to Orlando, Florida

1285 Atlanta, Georgia to Houston, Texas

 

1607 Washington D.C. to Chicago, Illinois

I wonder if its better for Greyhound to directly serve NYC - Chicago instead of NYC - Detroit, and force a transfer for Detroit passengers instead of Chicago passengers. That being said this change does decrease some mile duplication between Cleveland and Pittsburgh (since they have new trips between Cleveland- Chicago and Pittsburgh - Washington DC except for Tues/Wed)

Though the way they set it up is kind of smart... the NY- Detroit bus will be the same bus which will do the new Detroit - Cleveland bus connecting to the Chicago - Washington bus at Cleveland, with a Cleveland crew doing out and back round trip presumably

 

On 1/12/2022 at 11:15 PM, ns8401 said:

1688 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York

1695 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California

Back to one transcon on I-70 west of St Louis I see. I guess this one was the easiest to cut because of the lack of connections (no connections at Denver, LV, LA)

 

On 1/12/2022 at 11:15 PM, ns8401 said:

2508 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts

2513 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York

With the shut down of Boltbus, it seems like GH completely gave up attracting the NEC point to point market. Case in point, some Boston trips makes a detour to White Plain, some makes local stop along CT Coast, some goes via Hartford. Very few express trips left. 

Same goes for NY - Was, most of it continue south, and one taking 6 hour going via Havre De Grace

Same goes with NY-Philly, with addition of Newark, Mt Laurel and Camden on some trips

Also this cut leave only one NY-Providence trip remaining and two towards NYC

4723 Minneapolis, Minnesota to Chicago, Illinois

4918 Chicago, Illinois to Minneapolis, Minnesota

Why do I have a feeling Greyhound doesn't want to serve this corridor at all. (same thing goes for Spokane - Portland/Seattle) Wouldn't surprise me if Jefferson Lines takes over the whole corridor in the near future. These cuts leave only the interlined connections anyways

 

6012 Glendale Transit Center, California to Las Vegas, Nevada

6039 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California

Greyhound has been retreating in this corridor for years now. Wouldn't surprise me if they reduce it to only the trips continuing east of LA

 

6315 Phoenix, Arizona to San Diego, California

6318 San Diego, California to Phoenix, Arizona

No more direct San Diego to Phoenix service? I guess forcing everyone to Los Angeles is a "winning" strategy in attracting bus ridership

 

6818 Los Angeles, California to Fresno, California

6841 Fresno, California to Los Angeles, California

This leaves a large gap in the Central Valley in the morning-afternoon period. Although Flix does have one schedule that kind of fits the gap

4414 Detroit, Michigan to New York, New York -- Toledo, Ohio has been discontinued. Will operate via Allentown, Pennsylvania.

4427 New York, New York to Detroit, Michigan -- Will operate via Allentown, Pennsylvania

Interesting...

 

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/02-22.pdf

Some thoughts in bold above

Lots of days of operations cuts as well.

That being said 3570 Richmond-NYC via Del-Mar-Va time change is a positive improvement. Instead of traveling overnight, this is now a day bus, although the southbound remains a overnight run

 

That being said, I am hoping these changes are just seasonal winter reductions, although it is unknown if it will ever be bought back, because it seems like every time there is a reduction, less is brought back when there is a increase next season

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15 hours ago, Rapidbus said:

 

 

 

Some thoughts in bold above

Lots of days of operations cuts as well.

That being said 3570 Richmond-NYC via Del-Mar-Va time change is a positive improvement. Instead of traveling overnight, this is now a day bus, although the southbound remains a overnight run

 

That being said, I am hoping these changes are just seasonal winter reductions, although it is unknown if it will ever be bought back, because it seems like every time there is a reduction, less is brought back when there is a increase next season

I can at least speak to the Detroit-New York stuff since that's my home terminal...

The driver for 4427 from New York comes in at 930am and turns on 4428 at 1155am back to Cleveland. The driver of 4429 from Cleveland arrives around 330pm and takes 4414 back to Cleveland. These are indeed from the Cleveland pool and the runs always were but it used to be the driver would turn on their rest in the evening (500pm departure) after arriving at 740am. 4414 and 4427 flipped stops for some reason. So 4414 does what 4427 did before the change and vice versa. We were all scratching our heads on cutting Toledo out of a mid evening (545pm-ish) schedule to Cleveland but there it is. 4414 now runs straight from Detroit to Cleveland as an express instead of stopping at Toledo, Elyria and Sandusky. The flip side is that 4427 was an express from Cleveland to Detroit but now it stops at Sandusky, Elyria and Toledo on its way in which makes it come in 2 hours later now. There hasn't been a connection from Indian Trails to Greyhound to go directly to Cleveland and points east since August. This new schedule actually moves the two buses 15 minutes further apart. All of that traffic rides the second Indian Trails schedule and transfers in Detroit to go to Columbus-Pittsburgh and beyond now on 1093. Columbus remains an extremely busy focal point for passengers headed out east and out west. Charlotte, North Carolina has become another hub for of all places... upstate New York and the Eastern Seaboard(!). I've also had some people going to Connecticut and Youngstown, Ohio that made the jump in Charleston, West Virginia of all places.

 

As for Minneapolis... I bet you Jefferson gets Milwaukee to Minneapolis and Greyhound hangs onto Milwaukee-Chicago. I've noticed they seem to axe a Minneapolis run and add one just to Milwaukee in its place. Hard to believe it's down to only one bus now on that run.

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On 1/15/2022 at 10:14 PM, ns8401 said:

There hasn't been a connection from Indian Trails to Greyhound to go directly to Cleveland and points east since August. This new schedule actually moves the two buses 15 minutes further apart. All of that traffic rides the second Indian Trails schedule and transfers in Detroit to go to Columbus-Pittsburgh and beyond now on 1093. Columbus remains an extremely busy focal point for passengers headed out east and out west. Charlotte, North Carolina has become another hub for of all places... upstate New York and the Eastern Seaboard(!). I've also had some people going to Connecticut and Youngstown, Ohio that made the jump in Charleston, West Virginia of all places.

Interesting you mentioned that, not sure if its easier to move the schedule earlier on IT's side or later on GLI's side. I would think its easier to move the schedule it later on GLI's side. They probably could move 4414 Detroit - NY 1 hour later, and the 4669 Pitt- Was schedule 1 hour later. It would make sense than sending everyone going East to Columbus OH.

It seems like if you are going to (from Bay City)

New York/Washington, GH send you to Columbus for the 1684 to the east

Chicago - GH sends you via Kalamazoo where you will transfer from IT to 4459 (I'm pretty sure Indian Trail had a route to Chicago from Grand Rapids at one time)

Buffalo, NY- GH sends you on 1039 to Charleston, WV for the Barons bus back north to Cleveland/Buffalo

Syracuse NY - GH sends you Columbus, OH for 1684 to Harrisburg, for Fullington up to Syracuse, or 1684 to NY, then back up to Syracuse

Cleveland, OH- GH sends you on 1039 for 1684 to Pittsburgh, for next days 1645 Wash-Chicago schedule

 

With the connection at Detroit, GH could reroute all East Coast passengers on 4414, instead of sending everyone down to Columbus and onto the transcontinental 1683/1684. It should make sense considering that they have a beautiful terminal there at Cleveland, anyways 

 

On 1/15/2022 at 10:14 PM, ns8401 said:

As for Minneapolis... I bet you Jefferson gets Milwaukee to Minneapolis and Greyhound hangs onto Milwaukee-Chicago. I've noticed they seem to axe a Minneapolis run and add one just to Milwaukee in its place. Hard to believe it's down to only one bus now on that run.

There is still two, one to connect to JL via South Dakota, I-90, and one to connect with JL via Fargo/Billing via I-94.

They may hang onto Milwaukee for a while, until they decide that is not worth it as well and just cut everything north of Chicago. At this point, they might as well, and give JL the entire corridor from Chicago - Seattle (like Burlington from Chicago - Denver via Omaha)

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23 hours ago, Rapidbus said:

Interesting you mentioned that, not sure if its easier to move the schedule earlier on IT's side or later on GLI's side. I would think its easier to move the schedule it later on GLI's side. They probably could move 4414 Detroit - NY 1 hour later, and the 4669 Pitt- Was schedule 1 hour later. It would make sense than sending everyone going East to Columbus OH.

That's not a bad idea. Our two buses a day into Detroit run up to flint over to Grand Rapids and down to Kalamazoo and there are two counterparts doing the reverse. You noted correctly below that we had 3 buses a day into Chicago at one time. Starting in October 2020 we truncated those at Benton Harbor for a Greyhound connection to and from Chicago. This was pretty quickly moved to the larger bus/train station in Kalamazoo. The times we use are grounded by the connection to and from Greyhound in Kalamazoo. There is very little wiggle room for us except in responding to their changes to the Detroit-Chicago service. GLI would be far more likely to make a move than we would be at the Detroit end I would think.

That 4459 connection in Kalamazoo can be good for as many as 30-35 people headed west some days!

The connection from 4576 to IT at Kalamazoo at 11am is the major counterpart and that's the IT bus that ends up in Detroit at 505, 20 minutes after 4414 leaves for Cleveland. You can see why its not so easy for us to maneuver with tight Greyhound connections on both ends.

It seems like if you are going to (from Bay City)

New York/Washington, GH send you to Columbus for the 1684 to the east

Chicago - GH sends you via Kalamazoo where you will transfer from IT to 4459 (I'm pretty sure Indian Trail had a route to Chicago from Grand Rapids at one time)

Buffalo, NY- GH sends you on 1093 to Charleston, WV for the Barons bus back north to Cleveland/Buffalo

Syracuse NY - GH sends you Columbus, OH for 1684 to Harrisburg, for Fullington up to Syracuse, or 1684 to NY, then back up to Syracuse

Cleveland, OH- GH sends you on 1093 for 1684 to Pittsburgh, for next days 1645 Wash-Chicago schedule

With the connection at Detroit, GH could reroute all East Coast passengers on 4414, instead of sending everyone down to Columbus and onto the transcontinental 1683/1684. It should make sense considering that they have a beautiful terminal there at Cleveland, anyways.

This was the way it was before the fall bid changed everything for both companies. IT broke the connection because making it down there by 500pm proved to be nearly impossible despite being scheduled for 430pm (30 minute minimum connection time in the computer). They were pretty good at the Detroit station about tracking us and begging the Cleveland driver to stay but pulling in at 458 or 459 every day will make you sweat as a driver. The traffic going that way could be 15-20 people too. Greyhound did nothing to adjust after that and traffic rides 1093 or in some rare cases goes west to Chicago to go east again. I had a guy a few weeks ago get on in East Lansing on my way west going to Vermont... via 4459 and Chicago. Surprised the hell out of me.

 

There is still two, one to connect to JL via South Dakota, I-90, and one to connect with JL via Fargo/Billing via I-94.

They may hang onto Milwaukee for a while, until they decide that is not worth it as well and just cut everything north of Chicago. At this point, they might as well, and give JL the entire corridor from Chicago - Seattle (like Burlington from Chicago - Denver via Omaha)
 

Good point, though I have the feeling Jefferson isn't in Illinois for financial reasons as well as competitive ones. Why go into an extremely expensive place if you don't have to?

My comments above in bold.

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14 hours ago, traildriver said:

Carl Eric Wickman is probably spinning in his grave....

I’ve been meaning to find out when Greyhound cut the routes through Hibbing and vicinity and Jefferson got it… weird to think they are completely gone from their original turf.

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On 1/22/2022 at 6:59 AM, traildriver said:

Carl Eric Wickman is probably spinning in his grave....

So a rudimentary look through the old Russels Guides and map supplements I’ve collected shows Greyhound and something called “Scenic Minnesota Lines Co.” serving Hibbing in both 1976 and 1982. Greyhounds service was Minneapolis to Hibbing and the other company was running Virginia, Minnesota to Minneapolis. By 1988 Scenic Minnesota was gone and “Four Star Lines” ran a similar service between Virginia and Minneapolis. Greyhound service remained in place. By 1992, after the strike and bankruptcy of 1990, the only service to Hibbing was by “Tri-Action Tours Inc.” of St. Paul running the old Greyhound route. My newest map book is dated Spring 1995 and still shows Tri-Action running to Hibbing. 

So it looks like the 1990 strike and bankruptcy ended Greyhounds run to its birthplace, a casualty like so many other routes were. 

According to MNDOT the subsidized service Jefferson Lines runs from Duluth to Grand Rapids via Hibbing began in 2013 so there was a period with NO bus service to Hibbing after Tri-Action went away. 

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22 hours ago, traildriver said:

Ironically, the museum created to tell the story of Greyhound, is now nowhere near any of its routes...

http://www.greyhoundbusmuseum.org/index.html

Ironic indeed. It would be worth the drive just to see some of those old coaches. If I could nail down a hotel I could actually take our bus to Duluth and then the Jefferson run to Hibbing and stay the night and come back if the timing worked right. Something to keep in mind for the summer perhaps. Looks like a pretty neat place.

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1 hour ago, ns8401 said:

Ironic indeed. It would be worth the drive just to see some of those old coaches. If I could nail down a hotel I could actually take our bus to Duluth and then the Jefferson run to Hibbing and stay the night and come back if the timing worked right. Something to keep in mind for the summer perhaps. Looks like a pretty neat place.

While not dedicated only to Greyhound, this is an excellent bus museum…

Busmuseum.org

 

I highly recommend it, especially the annual “Spring Fling”, when it own collection is inflated with visiting buses from all over…

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2 hours ago, traildriver said:

While not dedicated only to Greyhound, this is an excellent bus museum…

Busmuseum.org

 

I highly recommend it, especially the annual “Spring Fling”, when it own collection is inflated with visiting buses from all over…

That’s another one I’ve got on my list that I had some hopes of doing this summer. Hopefully they add some info for 2022’s spring fling soon. That’d be a good chance to see some of the transit bus models I rode as a kid 25 or so years ago when the local bus agency made their fleet age stretch a lot farther than they do now. 30 years wasn’t unheard of then. It’s more like 12 now. Plus all of the various coaches from all over that show up for display and tours.

 

More schedule revisions:

Effective 1/19/22

Abolished:

A229

A276

A279

A283

A298

N316

N349

** A = Adirondack Trailways, N = New York Trailways

Do they have some sort of pool service with Greyhound?

 

NEW:

4003 Albany, New York to New York, New York

4004 New York, New York to Albany, New York

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/03-22.pdf

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12 hours ago, ns8401 said:

That’s another one I’ve got on my list that I had some hopes of doing this summer. Hopefully they add some info for 2022’s spring fling soon. That’d be a good chance to see some of the transit bus models I rode as a kid 25 or so years ago when the local bus agency made their fleet age stretch a lot farther than they do now. 30 years wasn’t unheard of then. It’s more like 12 now. Plus all of the various coaches from all over that show up for display and tours.

 

More schedule revisions:

Effective 1/19/22

Abolished:

A229

A276

A279

A283

A298

N316

N349

** A = Adirondack Trailways, N = New York Trailways

Do they have some sort of pool service with Greyhound?

 

NEW:

4003 Albany, New York to New York, New York

4004 New York, New York to Albany, New York

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/03-22.pdf

Yes Greyhound and Trailways of NY do have a pool agreement where they honour each other's tickets and probably do drive each other's buses.

What I am hearing, the Management of Equinox Bus Lines (Partnership with Ourbus) and Trailways of NY clashed at ABA Grapevine in a Workshop. Trailways of NY stated they are also doing Toronto - NYC service next month using Union Station Bus Terminal. Trailways of NY stated they are running their own buses with their own crew but would not comment if they separated from Greyhound because of Greyhound's new Ownership under fellow competitor Flixbus. If these schedules are being severed with Greyhound, I am thinking they are ending the pool agreement because of the Flixbus factor. Trailways of NY is getting ready to do their own service from Toronto to NYC for next month. Equinox Bus Lines, Coach Company of MA and Ourbus already have Toronto - Boston service available for next month.

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10 hours ago, Megabus Rider said:

Yes Greyhound and Trailways of NY do have a pool agreement where they honour each other's tickets and probably do drive each other's buses.

What I am hearing, the Management of Equinox Bus Lines (Partnership with Ourbus) and Trailways of NY clashed at ABA Grapevine in a Workshop. Trailways of NY stated they are also doing Toronto - NYC service next month using Union Station Bus Terminal. Trailways of NY stated they are running their own buses with their own crew but would not comment if they separated from Greyhound because of Greyhound's new Ownership under fellow competitor Flixbus. If these schedules are being severed with Greyhound, I am thinking they are ending the pool agreement because of the Flixbus factor. Trailways of NY is getting ready to do their own service from Toronto to NYC for next month. Equinox Bus Lines, Coach Company of MA and Ourbus already have Toronto - Boston service available for next month.

Plot thickens…

Effective 1/26/22

321 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York — Will now operate from Buffalo, New York to New York, New York

344 New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario — Will now operate from New York, New York to Buffalo, New York

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/05-22.pdf

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6 hours ago, ns8401 said:

Plot thickens…

Effective 1/26/22

321 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York — Will now operate from Buffalo, New York to New York, New York

344 New York, New York to Toronto, Ontario — Will now operate from New York, New York to Buffalo, New York

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/05-22.pdf

A result of Ontario's current COVID 19 restrictions. No Restaurants, No Night Clubs, No Gatherings and No Tourism Attractions open. While Equinox Bus Lines has a second departure in the afternoons, it's more to serve Buffalo Airport for Canadians seeking cheaper flights.

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Effective 1/29/22

Abolished:

8009 New York, New York to Mt. Laurel, New Jersey

8014 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York

 

Effective 2/2/22

Abolished:

3207 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

3210 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York

 

Other Changes:

1098 Atlanta, Georgia to New York, New York -- Will operate via Kittrell Job Corps, North Carolina and Henderson, North Carolina as well as South Hill, Virginia

1104 Atlanta, Georgia to Detroit, Michigan -- Will operate via Corbin, Kentucky RS (Pilot Travel Center 249 West Cumberland Gap)

1683 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via RS TA Travel Center, Barstow, California (2930 Lenwood Road)

1684 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will operate via RS TA Travel Center, Barstow, California (2930 Lenwood Road)

6025 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via RS TA Travel Center, Barstow, California (2930 Lenwood Road)

6048 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada -- Will operate via RS TA Travel Center, Barstow, California (2930 Lenwood Road)

6741 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via North Hollywood, California

 

Effective 2/3/22

4007 Montreal PQ to New York, New York -- Will now operate between Albany, New York and New York, New York

4008 New York, New York to Montreal, PQ -- Will now operate between New York, New York and Albany, New York

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/06-22.pdf

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Effective 2/15/22

NEW:

3715 Miami, Florida to Key West, Florida

3718 Key West, Florida to Miami, Florida

3730 Tampa, Florida to Tallahassee, Florida

3731 Tallahassee, Florida to Tampa, Florida

 

Effective 2/16/22

NEW:

1151 Chicago Amtrak, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia

1186 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois

1523 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas

1530 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia

4195 Albany, New York to Syracuse, New York

4196 Syracuse, New York to Albany, New York

 

Abolished:

3302 Dallas, Texas to Chicago, Illinois (via Atlanta, Georgia)

3303 Chicago, Illinois to Dallas, Texas (via Atlanta, Georgia)

 

Effective 2/18/22

9477 Los Angeles, California to San Ysidro, California -- Will operate via Long Beach, California

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Effective 2/21/22

Abolished:

4196 Syracuse, New York to Albany, New York

 

Other Changes:

1339 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via Rolla Newburg, Missouri

1342 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will operate via Rolla Newburg, Missouri

1351 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via Rolla Newburg, Missouri

1358 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will operate via Rolla Newburg, Missouri

3738 Albany, New York to Boston, Massachusetts -- Will now operate from Syracuse, New York to Boston, Massachusetts

4007 Albany, New York to New York, New York -- Will now operate from Montreal, PQ to New York, New York

4008 New York, New York to Albany, New York -- Will now operate from New York, New York to Montreal, PQ

 

Effective 2/24/22

1683 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via Mt. Laurel, New Jersey

3205 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -- Will operate via Mt. Laurel, New Jersey

3206 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York -- Will operate via Mt. Laurel, New Jersey

3208 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York -- Will operate via Mt. Laurel, New Jersey

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/09-22.pdf

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Effective 3/1/22

Abolished:

4691 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

4692 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

7955 Scranton, Pennsylvania to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

7956 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

Other Changes:

6024 Los Angeles, California to Los Vegas, Nevada -- Will operate via Victorville, California

 

Effective 3/2/22

3823 Baton Rouge, Louisiana to New Orleans, Louisiana -- Will operate via New Orleans (St. Charles & Canal), Louisiana

3832 New Orleans, Louisiana to Baton Rouge, Louisiana -- Will operate via New Orleans (St. Charles & Canal), Louisiana

3835 Baton Rouge, Louisiana to New Orleans, Louisiana -- Will operate via New Orleans (St. Charles & Canal), Louisiana

3836 New Orleans, Louisiana to Baton Rouge, Louisiana -- Will operate via New Orleans (St. Charles & Canal), Louisiana

 

Effective 3/3/22

A288 New York, New York to Albany, New York -- Will operate via Kingston, New York

 

Effective 3/10/22

Abolished:

N348 New York, New York to Buffalo, New York

N4301 Buffalo, New York to New York, New York

 

NEW:

N354 New York, New York to Buffalo, New York

N355 Buffalo, New York to New York, New York

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/10-22.pdf

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NEW:

1240 Houston, Texas to Orlando, Florida

1241 Orlando, Florida to Houston, Texas

1520 Dallas, Texas to Richmond, Virginia

1541 Richmond, Virginia to Dallas, Texas

7275 Houston, Texas to San Antonio, Texas

9043 Dallas, Texas to San Antonio, Texas

9334 San Antonio, Texas to Dallas, Texas

9360 San Antonio, Texas to Houston, Texas

 

Other Changes:

1145 Chicago, Illinois to Cincinnati, Ohio -- Will now operate from Chicago, Illinois to Atlanta, Georgia

1194 Cincinnati, Ohio to Chicago, Amtrak, Illinois -- Will now operate from Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois

4714 Chicago, Illinois to Milwaukee, Wisconsin -- Will now operate from Chicago, Illinois to Minneapolis, Minnesota

4721 Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate from Minneapolis, Minnesota to Chicago, Illinois
 

 

Effective 3/10/22

Abolished:

9700 Mobile, Alabama to Birmingham, Alabama

9701 Birmingham, Alabama to Mobile, Alabama

9702 Birmingham, Alabama to Florence, Alabama

9703 Florence, Alabama to Birmingham, Alabama

9705 Chattanooga, Tennessee to Birmingham, Alabama

9706 Birmingham, Alabama to Chattanooga, Tennessee

9707 Birmingham, Alabama to Mobile, Alabama

9708 Mobile, Alabama to Birmingham, Alabama

 

NEW:

9704 Montgomery, Alabama to Birmingham, Alabama

9709 Birmingham, Alabama to Montgomery, Alabama

9710 Atlanta, Georgia to Huntsville, Alabama

9711 Huntsville, Alabama to Atlanta, Georgia

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/11-22.pdf

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Effective 3/10/22

1194 Atlanta, Georgia to Chicago, Illinois -- Will now operate to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois after leaving Chicago, Illinois

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/13-22.pdf

 

3729 Tallahassee, Florida to Tampa, Florida -- Crystal River, Florida has been discontinued

3730 Tampa, Florida to Tallahassee, Florida -- Crystal River, Florida has been discontinued

3731 Tallahassee, Florida to Tampa, Florida -- Crystal River, Florida has been discontinued

3752 Tampa, Florida to Tallahassee, Florida -- Crystal River, Florida has been discontinued

 

Effective 3/13/22

1683 New York, New York to Los Angeles, California -- Will operate via Abilene, Kansas

1684 Los Angeles, California to New York, New York -- Will operate via Abilene, Kansas

http://extranet.greyhound.com/revsup/Schedules2/bulletins/14-22.pdf

 

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