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Greyhound Canada did a large number of schedule changes effective April 14th. Besides for the seasonal reductions for service to universities/colleges, here's a summary of the changes:

  • Toronto/Guelph/Kitchener corridor lost about 5 daily schedules, with many others were changed to fill gaps. Some daily schedules were shifted to weekdays only, further reducing weekend service.
  • Toronto/Ottawa Express corridor was reorganized, to the effect that all buses now do a round trip (requiring only 6 buses per day to cover 12 schedules). This should reduce equipment needs, and eliminate the need to have drivers overnight away from home.
  • Two Toronto-Peterborough trips (5767/5776) were cut. This results in the morning QuickLink trip now turning around in Toronto and returning as the local to Ottawa, while the daytime local from Ottawa does the afternoon Toronto-Peterborough trips.
  • Pembroke-Peterborough corridor stays the same, but was shifted about 1 hour later to connect with the revised Toronto-Peterborough-Ottawa schedule.
  • Toronto-Barrie had one of its two commuter schedules eliminated, and the other was changed to compensate. Oddly, there is a new Saturday-only schedule (5703/5726) running in the afternoon.
  • The daily trip from Buffalo to Pearson Airport/Scarborough Centre (5584/5591) was cut.
  • The downtown Toronto-Pearson-Scarborough Centre shuttle (previously Pearson-Yorkdale-Scarborough Centre) has finally been cut.
  • Ottawa-Kingston did not have trips reduced, but there was some schedule changes for more consistency.
  • Ottawa-Syracruse schedule still remains operating, 2 trips/week with no change in schedule times.

No major changes noticed to the Toronto-London-Detroit, Toronto-Sudbury, Ottawa-Sudbury, Ottawa-Cornwall, and Ottawa-Montreal corridors.

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Effective July 2019 US Changes

1542, 1545 one R/T between Dallas and Atlanta eliminated

One trip between Nashville and Dallas Eliminated

1450,1445 One R/T between LA to Dallas eliminated

Two R/T between Houston and El Paso eliminated. Those same service will now instead operate only between Houston and San Antonio, TX (no El Paso)

One NEW R/T between NY and Chicago, NY- Miami, Chicago - Atlanta, Chicago- Memphis, Orlando- Atlanta, KC- New York

One R/T express restored between OKC and Dallas, TX

1680, 6007 Day change (Instead of Fri Sa, will now be Tues, Wed)

Best of them all

RESTORED SERVICE ALONG INTERSTATE 80 BETWEEN RENO-SALT LAKE CITY.

Lovelock is the only restored non Amtrak stop. 1321 operates between Denver and Oakland , and 1320 operates from San Francisco to Denver.

1320 will replace 8300 local slot between San Francisco and Reno-Sparks

 

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I was on the bus tracker website today and saw some new(?) schedules that I had never seen before. Not sure how new they are and was looking on the Greyhound Timetable website and didn’t see them there. If I recall correctly, these lower numbered 5000 schedules were previously used out West

These are the only ones I don’t ever recall seeing, but there may be more

Schedule 5000: London 4:45am -Kitchener 6:15am

Schedule 5001: Kitchener 9:40pm-London 11:10pm

Schedule 5003: Windsor 7:30pm- London 9:35pm (however, I couldn’t find any London-Windsor runs)

 

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11 hours ago, yrt1000 said:

I was on the bus tracker website today and saw some new(?) schedules that I had never seen before. Not sure how new they are and was looking on the Greyhound Timetable website and didn’t see them there. If I recall correctly, these lower numbered 5000 schedules were previously used out West

These are the only ones I don’t ever recall seeing, but there may be more

Schedule 5000: London 4:45am -Kitchener 6:15am

Schedule 5001: Kitchener 9:40pm-London 11:10pm

Schedule 5003: Windsor 7:30pm- London 9:35pm (however, I couldn’t find any London-Windsor runs)

 

Looks like those could be converted deadhead movements.  Unsure about the Win-Lon trip though.

https://atu1415.ca/system/files/london-windsor_feb_3_2019.pdf

Uwe

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This would be noteworthy if true... looks like the same schedule number from Chicago to Toronto thing is done. 5500 series runs have been replaced by 455x runs operating Detroit to Chicago or Chicago to Detroit. The early buses today are still in there as through schedules. I’d imagine it’s a transfer now to get to Canada or vice versa in Detroit. But everything else is showing differently.

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Just now, Shaun said:

Do they want their US division to go bankrupt as well? Is that the goal here?

They are trimming the fat for the sale I think... stop by stop, steady drip like... I honestly think a liquidation or break up is coming... much of it is nearly worthless...

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10 hours ago, Shaun said:

Maybe Amtrak can take it over.  

Even in Canada we need a national bus service. Although flying is sometimes cheaper, when going from one end to the other.

That would require the government to bail the thing out... not likely in whole. In pieces yes as rural routes are subsidized by the almighty Federal Transit Administration. The 50 or 60 other interlining carriers could still interline, buy the current ticketing system as a group, and then profitably run your New York-Richmond or Dallas to LA runs or something like that. It would vastly improve the service to boot.

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8 hours ago, Shaun said:

Remember that Greyhound didn't understand that the feeder routes that lost money got them passengers on the busy routes. 

So when they cancelled the feeder routes it basically killed their business. 

 

The interline partners and states snapped up the feeder lines when they were abandoned but ridership has been down overall because many don’t know the service has been revived. The strike of 1990 and the 2 bankruptcies and resulting service cuts have been too much to overcome image wise. The big question... what lunatic would want to buy such an outfit?

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2 hours ago, ns8401 said:

The interline partners and states snapped up the feeder lines when they were abandoned but ridership has been down overall because many don’t know the service has been revived. The strike of 1990 and the 2 bankruptcies and resulting service cuts have been too much to overcome image wise. The big question... what lunatic would want to buy such an outfit?

Depends on how cheap it is..  lol

Maybe they can turn it around? It will require brains and capital $$.

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14 hours ago, Shaun said:

Depends on how cheap it is..  lol

Maybe they can turn it around? It will require brains and capital $$.

I really think it’s worth more as liquid assets than as a going concern. I bet a private equity firm gets it and sells it in bits and pieces.

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