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as of right now, 7053-7062 were moved to Montgomery. 7064 and 7065 are still at Landover. Not sure about 7063 and 7066-7069 as 7070-7085 are currently being rehabbed I think.

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On 7/15/2020 at 8:01 AM, DCTransitFilms said:

Wait the XD60s are on property ūüė≥

Also before the pandemic started I seen Andrews routes trying out CNG buses. I think Andrews might convert into a CNG division in the future but idk if they will since MD didn’t convert with DC and VA back when FMR and Blade became CNG divisions. 

Are more XD40s on order beyond the #4500s?

On 7/15/2020 at 1:47 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

Some buses have been moved around once again. Montgomery now has more 2011 XDE40s from 7054-7069 which they already have 7070-7085. Not sure why they moved in the first place.

Hopefully Metro speeds up the overhauling of the 2011's and move on to the 2012s and 2013 XDE40s as well as the 2012 Orion VII 3Gs.

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7 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Are more XD40s on order beyond the #4500s?

Hopefully Metro speeds up the overhauling of the 2011's and move on to the 2012s and 2013 XDE40s as well as the 2012 Orion VII 3Gs.

Next year's XD40s will most likely be 4500-4599 idk yet tho

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Here's an updated bus roster COVID-19 edition

Andrews Federal Center (A): 

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6153, 6156

-2009-10 New Flyer DE40LFA 6473-6491, 6528-6538 

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7093-7099

-2012-13 New Flyer XDE40 7168-7179, 7203-7235

Bladensburg (B):

-2006 Orion VII CNG 2671, 2673, 2677, 2679-2683, 2685 (all out of service)

-2006 30 ft Orion VII CNG 3001-3018, 3020-3027

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6151, 6155, 6157, 6160, 6161, 6163, 6164, 6167, 6168, 6172

-2007 New Flyer C40LFR 2801-2821

-2008 NABI 60 BRT CNG 5401-5422

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7086-7092

-2015 New Flyer XDE60 5468-5480

-2015-16 New Flyer XN40 2830-2909

-2018 New Flyer XDE60 5481-5484

-2019 New Flyer XN40 3200-3274

Cinder Bed Road (C): 
Operated by Transdev
-2008-09 New Flyer DE40LFA 6301-6377

-2012 Orion VII BRT Hybrid 3082-3087

Four Mile Run (F):
-2006 Orion VII CNG 2616, 2626-2629, 2636, 2640, 2641, 2643, 2644, 2646, 2650, 2651, 2655, 2658, 2655, 2665, 2668, 2724, 2727 (only 2658, 2724, and 2727 are running)

-2006 30 ft Orion VII CNG 3019, 3028-3032

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6103, 6136, 6138, 6162, 6170, 6181, 6186

-2007 New Flyer C40LFR 2822-2825

-2015-16 New Flyer XN40 2910-2993

-2018 New Flyer XN40 3100-3199

Landover (L):

-2005 New Flyer DE40LF 6001-6015

-2006 New Flyer DE40LFR 6042-6050

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6188, 6205-6217

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7001-7052, 7063-7069

-2012 Orion VII BRT Hybrid 3036-3040

-2014 NABI 42 BRT 8001-8033

-2016 New Flyer XDE40 7379-7409

-2019 New Flyer XD40 4450-4462

Montgomery (M):

-2005 New Flyer DE40LF 6016-6039

-2006 New Flyer DE40LFR 6040, 6041

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6187

-2009 New Flyer DE40LFA 6424-6461

-2009 New Flyer DE60LFA 5431-5452

-2009-10 New Flyer DE40LFA 6462-6472

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7053-7062, 7070-7085

-2013 New Flyer XDE40 7236-7272

-2014 NABI 42 BRT Hybrid 8034-8065

-2015 New Flyer XDE60 5460-5467

-2016 New Flyer XDE40 7348-7378

-2019 New Flyer XD40 4463-4474

Southern Avenue (P):
-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6104-6135

-2012 Orion VII Hybrid 3041-3044

-2016 New Flyer XDE40 7300-7347

Shepherd Parkway (S):

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6101, 6102, 6137, 6139-6146, 6148, 6152, 6162, 6165, 6166, 6169, 6174-6185, 6189-6191

-2008-09 New Flyer DE40LFA 6378-6423

-2009 New Flyer DE35LFA 3751-3757

-2009-10 New Flyer DE40LFA 6539-6577

-2012 Orion VII Hybrid 3045-3068

-2014 NABI 42 BRT 8067-8105

-2018 New Flyer XDE60 5485-5492

West Ox (V):
-2009 New Flyer DE35LFA 3758-3770

-2010 New Flyer DE40LFA 6578-6609

-2012-13 New Flyer XDE40 7180-7202

Western (W):
-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6147, 6149, 6173, 6192-6204

-2009-10 New Flyer DE40LFA 6492-6527

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7101-7152

-2012 New Flyer XDE40 7153-7167

-2012 Orion VII Hybrid 3069-3087

-2016 New Flyer XE40 1001

Buses out of service from following incidents:

-2013 New Flyer XDE40 7255

-2015-16 New Flyer XN40 2915

Training Buses:

-2006 Orion VII CNG 2703, 2706, 2712, 2713, 2717-2722

-2006 30ft Orion VII CNG 3032-3035

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6150, 6154, 6158, 6159, 6171

Buses Being Delivered:

-2020 New Flyer XN40 3275-3349

-2020 New Flyer XD40 4475-4499

-2020 New Flyer XD40 5500-5509

Retired Fleet:

-2000 Orion V 2101-2231

-2005 Orion VII CNG 2501-2615

-2006 Orion VII CNG 2617-2625, 2630-2635, 2637-2639, 2642, 2645, 2647-2649, 2652-2654, 2656, 2657, 2659-2664, 2666, 2667, 2679, 2670, 2672, 2674-2676, 2678, 2684, 2701-2723, 2725, 2726, 2728-2730

-2006 30ft Orion VII CNG 3028, 3029, 3031-3035

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6206

-2008 New Flyer DE40LFA 6367

-2009 New Flyer DE60LFA 5451

-2010 New Flyer DE40LFA  6475, 6487

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7100

-2014 NABI 42 BRT 8055, 8066

Active REX Scheme Buses:

-2008 New Flyer DE40LFA 6301-6312

Active MetroExtra Scheme Buses:

-2008 New Flyer DE40LFA 6413-6423

-2009 New Flyer DE40LFA 6424-6461

-2010 New Flyer DE40LFA 6462-6472

-2011 New Flyer XDE40 7086-7099

Active Suburban Seat Buses:

-2006 Orion VII CNG 2724, 2727

-2006 New Flyer D40LFR 6207-6217

Active Metroway Scheme Buses:

-2016 New Flyer XN40 2981-2993

Active TAGS Scheme Buses:

-2012 Orion VII BRT 3082-3087

Bus Routes:

Andrews Federal Center: 30N, 30S, 32, 34, 36, 39, A32, C11, C12, C13, C14, D12, D13, D14, H11, H12, H13, J12, K12    

Bladensburg: 59, 60, 62, 63, 64, 80, B2, B8, B9, D4, D8, D31, D32, D33, D34. G8, G9, H1, H2, H3, H4, H6, H8, H9, K2, K6, K9, R1, R2, R4, S1, S41, W45, W47, X2, X8, X9
Off‚ÄďPeak Hours Only: D6
Select Trips Only: 52, 54, 79, D1, G2, S2, S4, X3
Late Nights and Weekends: 74, 96
Weekdays Only: E2
Weekends Only: U5, U6, U7, V8
Rush Hour, Late Nights, and Weekends: U4

Cinder Bed: 17B, 17G, 17H, 17K, 17L, 17M, 18G, 18H, 18J, 18P, 29C, 29G, 29K, 29N, 29W, REX, TAGs (S80, S91)

Four Mile Run: 4A, 4B, 5A, 7A, 7C, 7F, 7M, 7P, 7W, 7Y, 8S, 8W, 8Z, 10A, 10B, 10E, 10N, 11Y, 16A, 16C, 16E, 16G, 16H, 16Y, 21A, 21D, 22A, 22C, 22F, 23A, 23B, 23T, 25B, 28A, 28F, 28G, Metroway
Late Nights and Weekends: 38B
Weekends Only: 1A, 1C, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3T
Select Trips Only: 42, 43, S2

Landover: 83, 83X, 86, 87, 89, 89M, A12, B21, B22, B24, B27, B29, B30, C21, C22, C26, C27, C28, C29, F1, F2, F4, F6, F8, F12, F13, F14, G12, G14, P12, R12, T14, T18, V12, V14

Montgomery: 37, 70, 79, C2, C4, C8, J1, J2, J4, S1, S2, S4, S9, Q1, Q2, Q4, Q5, Q6, Y2, Y7, Y8, Z2, Z6, Z7, Z8, Z11
Weekdays Only: L8, T2
Select Trips Only: N2, N4

Southern Avenue Annex (Weekdays Only): 96, 97, U4, U5, U6, U7, V1, V2, V4, V7, V8, W4
Select Trips Only: D1, D6, X1, X3

Shepherd Parkway: 90, 92, A2, A4, A6, A7, A8, A9, A31, A33, D51, M6, NH1, NH2, P6, P18, P19, S35, W1, W2, W3, W4, W5, W6, W8, W14, X1, X3
Rush Hours Only: D6
Select Trips Only: 32, 36, B2, V7, X3, X9
Weekdays Only: 74
Select Trips and Weekends Only: V2, V4

West Ox (Weekdays Only): 1A, 1B, 1C, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3T, 3Y, 15K, 16L, 26A, 38B

Western: 31, 33, 42, 43, 52, 54, D1, D2, D5, D31, D32, D33, D34, E4, E6, G2, L1, L2, M4, N2, N4, N6
Weekends Only: E2
Select Trips Only: D6

MetroExtra Routes: 16Y, 37, 39, 59, 79, A9, G9, J4, K9, S9, X9

Express Routes: 11Y, 17B, 17G, 17H, 17K, 17L, 17M, 18G, 18H, 18P, 29W

Airport Express Routes: 5A, B30

School Routes: A31, A32, A33, D31, D32, D33, D34, D51, H9, S35, S41, W45, W47

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More Metrorail service will begin on August 16 as part of WMATA’s managed recently plan. Silver Line service will be resumed following completion of the Phase 2 tie in and East Falls Church being able to bypass. Orange Line trains will also be able to terminate at West Falls Church. 
 

Metrobus will also see additional changes which will begin on August 23. The list will be shown on the bottom with routes operating during the week and weekends. Plus additional service change will happen at the same time with route NH2 discontinuing service to Huntington, Route 43 adding daily service, and Route S4 being eliminated and replaced by a daily route S9 adding Sunday service. 

https://www.wmata.com/service/status/details/proposed-august-2020-metrobus-service-changes.cfm

The following routes will not operate beginning on August 23: 

Weekdays: 1B, 3T, 3Y, 7C, 7P, 7W, 8S, 8W, 8Z, 10E, 10N, 11Y, 15K, 16L, 16Y, 17K, 17L, 18G, 18J, 18H, 21A, 21D, 22C, 23B, 23T, 26A, 28F, 28G, 29C, 29W, 34, 37, 39, 60, 87, 89, A9, B8, B9, B29, B30, C28, D1, D5, E6, G9, H1, H3, H11, H13, J4, K9, L1, N2, N4, P19, S1, S91,V1, V7, X1, X3, Z11

Saturday: 3T, 10N, 30N, 30S, 31, 62, 63, C14, D2, E2, G2, M6, NH2, Q6, R12, X8, Z6

Sunday: 30N, 30S, 31, 62, 63, 86, D2, E2, G2, H12, M6, NH2, T14, V12, X8

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On 7/14/2020 at 6:27 PM, Chris.A said:

Which depots had the 1979 GMC RTS's?

That's a whole topic right there.

In 1990 or so, there was an incident with a rear door springing open while the bus was in motion... I want to say while running the N-line through Westmoreland Circle.

I don't have all the details -- but I believe this led to rear door retrofits, from the original plug/pantograph rear doors to the "New York spec" flat, simple hinge-flip doors.

The rear door incident, plus their generally cramped interiors, got the entire RTS fleet ousted from the District. From the early 90s until they retired in 2000-2001, you'd see them regularly on rush-hour suburban routes at Pentagon and Silver Spring -- and never, never in the City. I know Montgomery had RTSes all through the 90s; I'm not sure which division(s) in Virginia ran them. They frequented the 29-line, so maybe Royal?

WMATA's RTSes looked kinda slick from the outside, but they were unpleasant to ride. By the time the RTS design improved, Metro had already become Flxible country -- to the point where I can't even imagine what a TMC or Nova RTS would have felt like at work for Metro.

 

 

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On 8/2/2020 at 10:57 PM, Border City Transit said:

That's a whole topic right there.

In 1990 or so, there was an incident with a rear door springing open while the bus was in motion... I want to say while running the N-line through Westmoreland Circle.

I don't have all the details -- but I believe this led to rear door retrofits, from the original plug/pantograph rear doors to the "New York spec" flat, simple hinge-flip doors.

The rear door incident, plus their generally cramped interiors, got the entire RTS fleet ousted from the District. From the early 90s until they retired in 2000-2001, you'd see them regularly on rush-hour suburban routes at Pentagon and Silver Spring -- and never, never in the City. I know Montgomery had RTSes all through the 90s; I'm not sure which division(s) in Virginia ran them. They frequented the 29-line, so maybe Royal?

WMATA's RTSes looked kinda slick from the outside, but they were unpleasant to ride. By the time the RTS design improved, Metro had already become Flxible country -- to the point where I can't even imagine what a TMC or Nova RTS would have felt like at work for Metro.

 

 

Sadly, the closest we got to a WMATA metrobus TMC/Novabus RTS was Fairfax Connector's 1994 units. What about Orion V CNGs? Were those ever considered? Also, were the 1992 Orion Vs first assigned to VA or DC/MD?

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On 8/2/2020 at 10:57 PM, Border City Transit said:

That's a whole topic right there.

In 1990 or so, there was an incident with a rear door springing open while the bus was in motion... I want to say while running the N-line through Westmoreland Circle.

I don't have all the details -- but I believe this led to rear door retrofits, from the original plug/pantograph rear doors to the "New York spec" flat, simple hinge-flip doors.

The rear door incident, plus their generally cramped interiors, got the entire RTS fleet ousted from the District. From the early 90s until they retired in 2000-2001, you'd see them regularly on rush-hour suburban routes at Pentagon and Silver Spring -- and never, never in the City. I know Montgomery had RTSes all through the 90s; I'm not sure which division(s) in Virginia ran them. They frequented the 29-line, so maybe Royal?

WMATA's RTSes looked kinda slick from the outside, but they were unpleasant to ride. By the time the RTS design improved, Metro had already become Flxible country -- to the point where I can't even imagine what a TMC or Nova RTS would have felt like at work for Metro.

 

 

They retired before I was even born (I was born 2001 and they retired in 2000). But pictures I saw had the buses running out of Montgomery division prior to retirement. Not sure if Landover or any VA garages had them and not sure who had 9112 as it was a surburban fitted bus. 9053 had a slanted design on the rear of the bus which I don’t get but here’s a pic.

https://flic.kr/p/5JWH8P

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20 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

9053 had a slanted design on the rear of the bus which I don’t get but here’s a pic.

That's an old pic! But a very informative one.

They all had the slopeback when delivered. They were, after all, 1979 RTS-03s. The squared back didn't become "a thing" until the RTS-04 was introduced in mid/late 1980.

Long story short, the original design (slopeback) crammed too many components into too small of a space -- particularly HVAC equipment. The squared-off design allowed the AC and the engine block more room to breathe.

Like most systems that had the RTS-03, WMATA retrofitted them to the -04 design -- so they lost their slopebacks. A very small handful of -03 systems added roof-mounted AC instead, thus preserving the pseudo-futuristic slopeback for the whole life of the bus (SEPTA, by far, was the most prominent example of that approach).

 

 

 

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The new XD40s are showing up finally.  4493 on the 90, 4494 on the 92,  4496 on the 92, and 4497 is showing up on the P6 route.  Looking for others.  Also 2723 is running again.

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6 hours ago, Rob S said:

The new XD40s are showing up finally.  4493 on the 90, 4494 on the 92,  4496 on the 92, and 4497 is showing up on the P6 route.  Looking for others.  Also 2723 is running again.

It looks like 4491-4499 will be going to Shepherd Parkway while 4475-4490 still TBA

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As of right now, 4491, 4493-4496 are in service out of Shepherd Parkway

Correction: 4491, 4493, 4494, 4496, 4497 are in service

Another correction: 4495 is on the A8

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4489 is also at Shepherd Parkway I heard 

Here is 4493 operating on the W4 today and a couple of the brand new XN40s testing (3310 and 3311) taken from my friend Xcelsior4400 on YouTube. The new XN40s have white LEDs similar to what’s found on the XD40s.

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I thought I read somewhere they completed it.  Looks like the final Orion VII CNG buses days are numbered now.

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2 minutes ago, Rob S said:

I thought I read somewhere they completed it.  Looks like the final Orion VII CNG buses days are numbered now.

Idk when it'll be converted though. And yeah the Orion VII CNGs days are numbered when the new XN40s come out.

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2 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

4489 is also at Shepherd Parkway I heard 

Here is 4493 operating on the W4 today and a couple of the brand new XN40s testing (3310 and 3311) taken from my friend Xcelsior4400 on YouTube. The new XN40s have white LEDs similar to what’s found on the XD40s.

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The 3300s testing look like they are on Suitland Parkway by the Anacostia Station.  I’m thinking that they could be heading to FMR.  Have to wait and see.

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2 minutes ago, Rob S said:

The 3300s testing look like they are on Suitland Parkway by the Anacostia Station.  I’m thinking that they could be heading to FMR.  Have to wait and see.

It is on Suitland Parkway and it looks like its going into downtown by the looks but I think most the 3300s will be going to FMR

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a couple of new 2020 XN40's are at Bladensburg (can't use my cell phone on the lot so no pics) but I suspect those are probably at Blade to knock the last few Metro Extra 2600's out. 

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1 hour ago, vvozz said:

a couple of new 2020 XN40's are at Bladensburg (can't use my cell phone on the lot so no pics) but I suspect those are probably at Blade to knock the last few Metro Extra 2600's out. 

Last I check 3278 was there. Any word on when they’ll enter service? 

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On 8/7/2020 at 8:59 AM, DCTransitFilms said:

They retired before I was even born (I was born 2001 and they retired in 2000). But pictures I saw had the buses running out of Montgomery division prior to retirement

This had me digging a bit more into WMATA's lone RTS order.

Wow. From their debut in 1979 until their retirement in late 2000, they had many major components replaced:

= Air conditioning... retrofitted to RTS-04 style, with squared back end
= Rear doors... retrofitted from standard RTS plug/pantograph to New York-style flip-out
= Windows... retrofitted from sealed single-piece acrylic to modern RTS-06 style thick-frame fully sliding windows
= Engine... retrofitted from 6V71 to 6V92TA
= Destination signs... retrofitted from rollsign to Gultan or Vultron. Not uncommon to find a late 70s bus retrofitted to a flip-dot sign, but these may have been the only WMATA buses to make the leap. Anyone?
= Bumpers... retrofitted to high-impact Romeo Rim (I think...)

For buses that always seemed widely unliked, Metro sunk an awful lot of money into them. No wonder they lasted 21 years!

 

 

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Border City Transit said:

This had me digging a bit more into WMATA's lone RTS order.

Wow. From their debut in 1979 until their retirement in late 2000, they had many major components replaced:

= Air conditioning... retrofitted to RTS-04 style, with squared back end
= Rear doors... retrofitted from standard RTS plug/pantograph to New York-style flip-out
= Windows... retrofitted from sealed single-piece acrylic to modern RTS-06 style thick-frame fully sliding windows
= Engine... retrofitted from 6V71 to 6V92TA
= Destination signs... retrofitted from rollsign to Gultan or Vultron. Not uncommon to find a late 70s bus retrofitted to a flip-dot sign, but these may have been the only WMATA buses to make the leap. Anyone?
= Bumpers... retrofitted to high-impact Romeo Rim (I think...)

For buses that always seemed widely unliked, Metro sunk an awful lot of money into them. No wonder they lasted 21 years!

 

 

 

 

 

I didn’t even noticed they had this amount of problems 

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