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On 4/14/2020 at 10:13 AM, DCTransitFilms said:

Bus 3209 will be out of service for a bit. Involved in nasty collision last night in White Oak. 

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Unknown injuries at the moment.

Forgot to mention that both DASH bus and Ride On are due for some Proterra BE35 buses at some point this year.

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2 hours ago, Chris.A said:

DASH bus Orion Vs retired?

Temporarily parked due to corona. Some will be back

1 hour ago, Chris.A said:

Ride On are due for some Proterra BE35 buses at some point t

IIRC the ride On ones are already delivered, they just haven't hit service yet

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23 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Does anyone know if buses #7255 and #2915 are still oos? They seemed to be out of service for years now. I know #2915 was out since atleast 2017 and #7255 since about 2016. Also, the 2 2014 Nabi hybrids (#8055, and #8066) could they possibly come back with new faces from the retiring 2008 Nabi BRT 60 CNG artics?

 

And lastly, are all the DASH bus Orion Vs retired? Haven't seen one in service since Apirl...

8055 and 8066 are done I'm told so are 6475 and 7100. Not sure about 2915 and 7255 I asked the facebook DC Transit group about them and they said they haven't seen them in a while. 

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Breda 2016-2017 are now officially wrapped in the Money Train scheme seen here at Alexandria yard (first two photos) and Gallery Place (third photo)

First two pictures taken by Willie Meade on Facebook (in a Facebook group)

Third photo taken by Russell Wiggins on Facebook (in a Facebook group)

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On 6/6/2020 at 11:53 AM, DCTransitFilms said:

Shepherd Parkway are to receive two electric articulated buses around 2021.

Seems interesting. I also noticed that we will be getting 75 more XN40s for next year in addition to all the artics and XD40s. 2021 could easily be the biggest year in bus orders since 2015-2016. So I guess 25 of the 2021 XN40s will replace the 2007 C40LFRs and the remaining 50 would go to Sheppard's parkway for partial CNG conversion. That depot is years late for getting CNG buses, cause they were originally suppose to get the #3100's back in 2018, but those went to Four Mile Run for some reason. Meanwhile, the XD60s will not only replace the Nabi BRT 60 CNGs, but possibly the 2009 New Flyer DE62LFAs as well? As far as the XD40s are concerned, those will kill off the 2005-2006 New Flyer hybrids and many of the 2006 D40LFRs too. 

On 6/6/2020 at 11:53 AM, DCTransitFilms said:

Shepherd Parkway are to receive two electric articulated buses around 2021.

Also, why aren't the 2020 buses deployed yet?

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3 hours ago, Chris.A said:

Seems interesting. I also noticed that we will be getting 75 more XN40s for next year in addition to all the artics and XD40s. 2021 could easily be the biggest year in bus orders since 2015-2016. So I guess 25 of the 2021 XN40s will replace the 2007 C40LFRs and the remaining 50 would go to Sheppard's parkway for partial CNG conversion. That depot is years late for getting CNG buses, cause they were originally suppose to get the #3100's back in 2018, but those went to Four Mile Run for some reason. Meanwhile, the XD60s will not only replace the Nabi BRT 60 CNGs, but possibly the 2009 New Flyer DE62LFAs as well? As far as the XD40s are concerned, those will kill off the 2005-2006 New Flyer hybrids and many of the 2006 D40LFRs too. 

Also, why aren't the 2020 buses deployed yet?

It was already known from 2018-2019 of the 2021 buses but I only added them lately since 2020 buses are on property. The new XN40s are supposed to replace the remaining Orion VII CNGs and maybe the C40LFRs and get Shepherd Parkway be converted into CNG. The 100 XD40s next year will probably start replacing the 2005-06 D40LFRs, DE40LFs, and DE40LFRs. The 25 XD40s this year will replace the Orion Vs but they're basically retired since the pandemic started. Idk what the XD60s will replace the DE60LFAs but ik a few of them will replace the NABI 60s and expand the articulated fleet.

 

2020 buses aren't deployed yet since they still need to be trained on Im guessing and since there is a lack of service for Metrobus and Metrorail, there isn't any need for the buses yet. They will probably enter service in the fall of this year my best bet would be the end of September since that's when the 2019 XD40s entered service which caught all of us off-guard.

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The operator who operated the striking train of the 2019 collision had a history of safety violations which includes the following:

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The operator had been working in the role since August 2005. In 2006, the operator was demoted to driving for Metrobus because of several safety violations, but returned to operating trains in 2010. The operator was suspended in 2011 and twice in 2015 over safety issues like running through a red signal and failing to report a station overrun.

At least 6 rail cars are complete write offs now which are 3008, 3009, 3206, 3207. Idk the status update of 3120, 3121, 3140, 3141, 3010, and 3011 though but one of those pairs is a write off. 3018 and 3019 ik are in service as I seen them on the Orange Line back in December.

https://dcist.com/story/20/06/18/report-finds-train-operator-in-farragut-crash-had-history-of-safety-violations/ 

https://wjla.com/news/local/metro-operator-crash-safety-violations-banned

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/operator-in-october-metro-crash-had-lengthy-record-of-violations-including-suspension-for-previous-crash/2020/06/18/843a510c-b178-11ea-8758-bfd1d045525a_story.html

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In an update to the last post, cars 3008, 3009, 3120, 3121, 3206, and 3207 are not returning to service due to damage from the accident and 3010, 3011, 3140, and 3141 are repaired.

https://wmsc.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/WMSC-W0030-Collision-Oct-7-2019-Farragut-West.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2219uDVNDy2WsNhHV5haWQF6m_FQ1ywsYfKly5dgFozqG8DMjwRNWKOOo

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Beginning on June 28, 2020, 15 out of 19 stations will reopen that were closed due to COVID-19 and Metro reduced service.  McLean, Greensboro, and East Falls Church station are closed due to platform reconstruction and Silver Line Phase II tie in so those stations will get local shuttle buses to serve the stations. The only station that will remain closed will be Arlington Cemetery which isn't much of a shocker.

Also, routes C14, G2, M6, and NH2 will be suspended until further noticed. Other routes that will get a reduction of service are routes 22A (operating between Pentagon and Shirlington only), 62, D2, E2, H6, U4, and X8. However, routes 54, 70, 92, 30N, 30S, A4, A6, A8, P6, V4, W4, F4, P12, and T18 will get additional trips  in order to reduce crowding, enhance social distancing, and slow recovery for service. 

https://www.wmata.com/about/news/Metro-to-reopen-15-stations-reallocate-bus-service.cfm

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3265 has an updated number font on the front of the buses similar to the XD40s and 2020 XN40s. Not sure why they change it though. Here’s 3265 on the R4 today with the updated number font. 

 

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On 6/22/2020 at 2:55 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

Beginning on June 28, 2020, 15 out of 19 stations will reopen that were closed due to COVID-19 and Metro reduced service.  McLean, Greensboro, and East Falls Church station are closed due to platform reconstruction and Silver Line Phase II tie in so those stations will get local shuttle buses to serve the stations. The only station that will remain closed will be Arlington Cemetery which isn't much of a shocker.

Also, routes C14, G2, M6, and NH2 will be suspended until further noticed. Other routes that will get a reduction of service are routes 22A (operating between Pentagon and Shirlington only), 62, D2, E2, H6, U4, and X8. However, routes 54, 70, 92, 30N, 30S, A4, A6, A8, P6, V4, W4, F4, P12, and T18 will get additional trips  in order to reduce crowding, enhance social distancing, and slow recovery for service. 

https://www.wmata.com/about/news/Metro-to-reopen-15-stations-reallocate-bus-service.cfm

Why is Metro suspending these lines? Also, if business are slowly starting to return, then so should Metrobus service. In VA on weekends, it is nearly impossible to get around town by metrobus. It's as if WMATA wants people to take their local bus systems instead (i.e. DASH, ART, Fairfax Connector, etc). If it were up to me, the covid 19 service routes to be open in va on weekends would be the following:

1A (has that major Inova Fairfax stop, why is this bus not running?)

2A (Ballston has no Metrobus coverage on weekends anymore outside of subway shuttles)

4B (Rosslyn has no service similar to Ballston)

7F (7A is not really needed since almost no one goes to Pentagon on weekends, same with the Mark Center. 7F goes to Pentagon City IIRC as well As Shirlington and Southern Towers on the West end of Alexandria. Perhaps terminate at the Towers since hardly anyone goes to Lincolnia anymore and they could just simply catch an AT1+ or AT2 DASH bus).

10B

16H (in addition to the 16C)

22A (I can kinda understand and leave it as they have it)

23A (Crystal city needs a bus other than Metroways)

28A (for obvious reasons)

29N (29K would be shutdown for now as no one is going to colleges anytime in the forseeable future)

38B

Metroways

REX

 

Can't speak too much for the rest of the metrobus system for I'm not as familiar with the routes outside of Northern VA (except for like core downtown ones like the 42, 70, 79, 80, etc..).

 

On 6/23/2020 at 6:13 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

3265 has an updated number font on the front of the buses similar to the XD40s and 2020 XN40s. Not sure why they change it though. Here’s 3265 on the R4 today with the updated number font. 

 

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BTW, 2020 XN40 #3276 was being road tested the other day, so I guess these are about to be delivered to their depots. Also, I heard that PRTC Omniride is getting 6 new MCI D4500CT buses by year's end (#3037-3042). Moreover, their second depot should be ready by the end of the year, after which they will be purchasing 35 footer buses for Omnilink service. This is because they want to buy buses with two doors going forward which they should have done years ago. So expect 30 foot buses to be a thing of the past, similar to how WMATA stopped buying 35 foot and under buses years ago after the Orion 7 3Gs. 

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On 5/24/2020 at 7:26 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

8055 and 8066 are done I'm told so are 6475 and 7100. Not sure about 2915 and 7255 I asked the facebook DC Transit group about them and they said they haven't seen them in a while. 

Do you remember the numbers for the 96' 1990 Metro Bs? I know they were in the #9400's somewhere but I forgot the fleet numbers. I remember some of them being out of Four Mile Run up until their retirement in 2006-2007.

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On 6/29/2020 at 4:16 PM, Chris.A said:

Why is Metro suspending these lines? Also, if business are slowly starting to return, then so should Metrobus service. In VA on weekends, it is nearly impossible to get around town by metrobus. It's as if WMATA wants people to take their local bus systems instead (i.e. DASH, ART, Fairfax Connector, etc). If it were up to me, the covid 19 service routes to be open in va on weekends would be the following:

1A (has that major Inova Fairfax stop, why is this bus not running?)

2A (Ballston has no Metrobus coverage on weekends anymore outside of subway shuttles)

4B (Rosslyn has no service similar to Ballston)

7F (7A is not really needed since almost no one goes to Pentagon on weekends, same with the Mark Center. 7F goes to Pentagon City IIRC as well As Shirlington and Southern Towers on the West end of Alexandria. Perhaps terminate at the Towers since hardly anyone goes to Lincolnia anymore and they could just simply catch an AT1+ or AT2 DASH bus).

10B

16H (in addition to the 16C)

22A (I can kinda understand and leave it as they have it)

23A (Crystal city needs a bus other than Metroways)

28A (for obvious reasons)

29N (29K would be shutdown for now as no one is going to colleges anytime in the forseeable future)

38B

Metroways

REX

 

Can't speak too much for the rest of the metrobus system for I'm not as familiar with the routes outside of Northern VA (except for like core downtown ones like the 42, 70, 79, 80, etc..).

the routes that are being suspended are due to low ridership. C14 and NH2 got low ridership, M6 is covered by other routes, and idk why the G2 tbh. I think the following routes should also be added to operate during the weekdays and weekends.

Weekdays: 7F, 17H, 18P, full route 25B, full route C2, C8, C22 and C26 instead of C29, J4, K9, L8, N2 and N4  instead of N6, P18, S9, T2, V2, W3, W14, Z6

Weekends: 1A, 2A, 10B, 16H, 23A, 64, 80, 96, D6, E4, G14, L2, Metroway, P6, Q1, T18

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On 6/29/2020 at 6:56 PM, Chris.A said:

Do you remember the numbers for the 96' 1990 Metro Bs? I know they were in the #9400's somewhere but I forgot the fleet numbers. I remember some of them being out of Four Mile Run up until their retirement in 2006-2007.

Yep -- Flxible Metro 40096-6C-1, model year 1990... 9421-9463

They were scattered throughout the system. I remember seeing them in Montgomery territory. I vividly recall riding one on the 42 circa 1999. There was clearly no width constraint on that route, as my return trip was a 1992 Orion V -- effortlessly navigating Columbia Rd, Dupont Circle and points between at a generous width of 102".

I believe your account that they operated from Four Mile Run, too. I can see where they'd be applicable on peak-hour NoVa routes (17s, 18s, 29s, etc) that, at the time, did not consistently use wheelchair accessible buses.

I never understood why WMATA purchased narrow body buses as late as 1990. DC Transit, their largest predecessor, was a 96" shop -- but it hardly seemed like a practice worth preserving after 102" buses proved themselves in the early/mid 1980s. The only thing I can think of: the old Southeastern division was perhaps not capable of servicing 102" buses. Just a guess.

The first purchase of Flxible Metros in 1986 was 102" wide -- but they also bought some 96" units in that era, almost like "just in case". The bulk of the 1990 order was 102" wide -- 40-foot units (9301-9413) and even 35-foot units, for crying out loud! (9481-9498)

The 96" buses and 102" buses ran side-by-side for some -- I could never detect a pattern to how they were assigned. Anyone?

 

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Metro is running COVID -19 weekend schedule during the July 4 weekend

On 6/29/2020 at 4:16 PM, Chris.A said:

BTW, 2020 XN40 #3276 was being road tested the other day, so I guess these are about to be delivered to their depots. Also, I heard that PRTC Omniride is getting 6 new MCI D4500CT buses by year's end (#3037-3042). Moreover, their second depot should be ready by the end of the year, after which they will be purchasing 35 footer buses for Omnilink service. This is because they want to buy buses with two doors going forward which they should have done years ago. So expect 30 foot buses to be a thing of the past, similar to how WMATA stopped buying 35 foot and under buses years ago after the Orion 7 3Gs. 

Yeah I heard about both. WMATA does require 30 ft buses for some routes in SE (W1, W2, W3, W6, W8), NE (U4, U7), NW (D2, E6, G2), the TAGs in VA (if not eliminated), and other routes would need them like the 3T, 15K, 25B, 26A, 74, B8/B9, D4, E2, F12, F13, M4, and X8.

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Does anyone know what divisions will be getting the new buses?  Also, the old 103 DASH bus is up on eBay.  Made it all the way to California.   I believe the TAGs routes are eliminated.  Fairfax Connector has two routes under their fall proposals that will replace them.  Route 350 will replace the old S80 and route 351 will replace the old S91.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Gillig-Phantom-C21B096N4-35-foot-transit-bus-Cummins-ISM-Allison-B400R/392861167519?hash=item5b7859af9f:g:oiMAAOSw40de~9SR

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20 hours ago, Rob S said:

Does anyone know what divisions will be getting the new buses?  Also, the old 103 DASH bus is up on eBay.  Made it all the way to California.   I believe the TAGs routes are eliminated.  Fairfax Connector has two routes under their fall proposals that will replace them.  Route 350 will replace the old S80 and route 351 will replace the old S91.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Gillig-Phantom-C21B096N4-35-foot-transit-bus-Cummins-ISM-Allison-B400R/392861167519?hash=item5b7859af9f:g:oiMAAOSw40de~9SR

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the depots in line to get new buses between now and the end of 2021 would be the following:

Bladensburg : (Most certainly needs atleast 60 new buses for they have to replace all their remaining Orion Vs (which had been oos since last summer, but not officially retired as of yet) Orion VII CNGs, C40LFRs, NABI BRT 60 CNG artics, and D40LFRs)

Four Mile Run: (Still have about 20 or so Orion VII CNGs left as well as some C40LFRs, and D40LFRs to replace)

Sheppard's Parkway: ( To replace their few remaining Orion Vs as well as D40LFRs and possibly transfer some DE42LFAs or NABI BRT 42 hybrids elsewhere)

West Ox: (could use some of those new XD40s since the Fairfax Connector side of the depot has tons of them (and XD35s too). Could displace these XDE40s back to D.C. or Maryland. I'd give them about 35 units.)

Cinder Bed: ( To displace some of those older DE42LFAs elsewhere)

Andrew's Medical Center: ( To replace remaining Orion Vs and D40LFRs)

Montgomery: ( To replace the DE40LFs and DE40LFR)

Landover : (To replace DE40LFs and DE40LFRs)

 

Basically 90% of the depots except for maybe Southern Ave and Western. Those depots would just get handmedowns from other depots.

 

As for the ex-DASH 2007 Gillig  #103,  Glad it is getting a new lease on life, but why in Cali? Could have gone to New York like most former DMV area transit buses (that don't get scrapped) do...

So Tags is officially over? Are those 2012 Orion VII EPA10 3G BRT hybrids going to be unwrapped and sent back to the inner city? If so, that's pretty much the end of the Orion VII era in Northern VA (Metrobus-wise, I know FFX still have their Orion VII NG Diesels in service).

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On 7/5/2020 at 11:34 PM, Rob S said:

Does anyone know what divisions will be getting the new buses?  Also, the old 103 DASH bus is up on eBay.  Made it all the way to California.   I believe the TAGs routes are eliminated.  Fairfax Connector has two routes under their fall proposals that will replace them.  Route 350 will replace the old S80 and route 351 will replace the old S91.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Gillig-Phantom-C21B096N4-35-foot-transit-bus-Cummins-ISM-Allison-B400R/392861167519?hash=item5b7859af9f:g:oiMAAOSw40de~9SR

 

11 hours ago, Chris.A said:

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the depots in line to get new buses between now and the end of 2021 would be the following:

Bladensburg : (Most certainly needs atleast 60 new buses for they have to replace all their remaining Orion Vs (which had been oos since last summer, but not officially retired as of yet) Orion VII CNGs, C40LFRs, NABI BRT 60 CNG artics, and D40LFRs)

Four Mile Run: (Still have about 20 or so Orion VII CNGs left as well as some C40LFRs, and D40LFRs to replace)

Sheppard's Parkway: ( To replace their few remaining Orion Vs as well as D40LFRs and possibly transfer some DE42LFAs or NABI BRT 42 hybrids elsewhere)

West Ox: (could use some of those new XD40s since the Fairfax Connector side of the depot has tons of them (and XD35s too). Could displace these XDE40s back to D.C. or Maryland. I'd give them about 35 units.)

Cinder Bed: ( To displace some of those older DE42LFAs elsewhere)

Andrew's Medical Center: ( To replace remaining Orion Vs and D40LFRs)

Montgomery: ( To replace the DE40LFs and DE40LFR)

Landover : (To replace DE40LFs and DE40LFRs)

 

Basically 90% of the depots except for maybe Southern Ave and Western. Those depots would just get handmedowns from other depots.

 

As for the ex-DASH 2007 Gillig  #103,  Glad it is getting a new lease on life, but why in Cali? Could have gone to New York like most former DMV area transit buses (that don't get scrapped) do...

So Tags is officially over? Are those 2012 Orion VII EPA10 3G BRT hybrids going to be unwrapped and sent back to the inner city? If so, that's pretty much the end of the Orion VII era in Northern VA (Metrobus-wise, I know FFX still have their Orion VII NG Diesels in service).

TAGs aren’t actually eliminated yet. They just haven’t ran since March 18 due to COVID and the reduced Metro service. But I’m not sure when the TAGs Orion VIIs will go if the TAGs are eliminated. I could see them going back to Western, or go to Southern Avenue, West Ox, Bladensburg, or Andrews Division (Landover barely uses their Orion VIIs unless it’s for the Landover shuttle so they probably won’t need them and Montgomery has a bunch of their routes with high ridership so they need the 40 ft or 60 ft buses).

The 2021 buses are actually just going to be 100 XD40s and 32 XD60s and two electric buses (I mistakenly mistook we are getting 2021 XN40s. We are NOT getting any XN40s in 2021 as of right now). 2020 XN40s will split between Bladensburg and FMR as I heard but idk what will be assigned but I assume it’ll be 3275-3309 for Bladensburg and 3310-3349 for FMR but it could be wrong. As for the XD40s, idk where they’ll head to but I think they’ll come to Montgomery or Shepherd Parkway. By the time the 2021 XD40s come, I think Landover will get the first batch of the buses (4450-4499 and some 4500s) because Landover mostly get the first numbers of buses (7001-7069, 6001-6015, 4450-4462, 3036-3040, 6301-6335 when they had DE40LFAs, 8001-8033), and Montgomery will get some 4500s, while I see the rest going to Western, West Ox, and Shepherd Parkway.

Also about 103 I guess somebody originally bought it in California but can’t keep it so has to sell it. At least it’s probably getting a new owner unlike getting scrapped. 

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Hearing that the main switch towards the pocket track at Silver Spring switch back to the main track which caused the train to derail.  No injuries reported as of right now. The Red Line is a complete mess since parts of the Red Line is already shutdown due to flooding from last night's storms.

Cars 7502-7503-7561-7560 were involved and those cars were usually found on the Green and Yellow Lines. 

 

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According to reports, the train may’ve past through a red signal and the points were set to the pocket track where another train was sitting there (that arrived a few minutes before the incident train) to switch to the Shady Grove bound tracks. If so the switch could’ve malfunctioned and the switches maybe got realigned to the main tracks while the train was over the points. Looks like human error could be the cause of the accident. 
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/metro-train-derails-near-silver-spring-station/2354373/

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