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9 hours ago, BusTraveler96 said:

MAJOR CRIME ALERT: Metrobus #6588 was involved in a shooting incident on a Thursday morning. Two men got into an argument inside a Route A2 Metrobus when the 17-year-old shooter pulled out a handgun and shot the 25-year-old man and an innocent 17-year-old girl. The shooter got off the bus and fled the scene; the two victims were later transported to a hospital with injuries not considered to be life-threatening.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/shooting-on-metrobus-in-southeast-dc-sends-two-people-to-hospital/3211599/

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/shooting-metrobus-leaves-2-injured-southeast-dc/65-e60d93ab-9652-47f0-be96-959ac6902c08

In other crime news, a former Metro Transit Police officer was found guilty on a civil rights charge for beating a Metrorail rider with a metal baton in early 2018.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/11/former-metro-police-officer-convicted-in-beating-of-rider/

Disgraceful on both counts.

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25 minutes ago, Rob S said:

Here are the changes happening on December 11th:

https://www.wmata.com/service/status/details/service-changes-dec-11-2022.cfm
 

Would like to know the changes on the 28A and 29K/N.

Those seems to be schedule adjustments. Only other thing noteworthy is that the X9 is ending at Gallery Place now where the old 42/43 terminus was.

Everything else is basically increasing the frequencies on lines, schedule adjustments, and having late night Q4 trips go to Shady Grove as the Q1

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1 hour ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Those seems to be schedule adjustments. Only other thing noteworthy is that the X9 is ending at Gallery Place now where the old 42/43 terminus was.

Everything else is basically increasing the frequencies on lines, schedule adjustments, and having late night Q4 trips go to Shady Grove as the Q1

There should be more late night bus service in general. Metrobus should honestly run 24 hours since they refuse to do that for the trains. Some VA routes that should see 24 hours include: 1A, 4A, 7A, 10B, 16A/E, 25B, 28A, 29N, 38B, Metroways, and the REX. For D.C., I'd say the: S2, S4, 42, 52, 54, 70, 80, 90, 92, B2, D6, and X2. For MD, the following:  A2, A4, A8, F4, P6, K6, Y2, and Y8.

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19 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

There should be more late night bus service in general. Metrobus should honestly run 24 hours since they refuse to do that for the trains. Some VA routes that should see 24 hours include: 1A, 4A, 7A, 10B, 16A/E, 25B, 28A, 29N, 38B, Metroways, and the REX. For D.C., I'd say the: S2, S4, 42, 52, 54, 70, 80, 90, 92, B2, D6, and X2. For MD, the following:  A2, A4, A8, F4, P6, K6, Y2, and Y8.

Think there isn't much ridership/demand for late night service. It isn't as big as New York after all but I would like late night service...

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40 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Think there isn't much ridership/demand for late night service. It isn't as big as New York after all but I would like late night service...

Don't Septa and CTA have 24 hour bus systems? Hell, EVEN NICE bus is 24 hours (and that's a suburban system, the NY equivalent of Ride-on and Fairfax Connector). So WMATA can't?

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14 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Think there isn't much ridership/demand for late night service. It isn't as big as New York after all but I would like late night service...

 

13 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

Don't Septa and CTA have 24 hour bus systems? Hell, EVEN NICE bus is 24 hours (and that's a suburban system, the NY equivalent of Ride-on and Fairfax Connector). So WMATA can't?

We don’t have 24-hour service because the system closes nightly for maintenance work. This is needed to keep everything running in a state of good repair. As the post above yours mentioned, ridership isn’t high enough to justify it.
 

Last, but not least, we’re short 100 bus operators. That’s why you may have seen those “Due to bus operator availability….” messages in the service alerts. We’re barely able to make service as it is.

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3 hours ago, Metrobus1A said:

 

We don’t have 24 hour service because the system closes every night for maintenance work. This is needed to keep everything running in a state of good repair. As the post above yours mentioned, ridership isn’t high enough to justify it.
 

Last, but not least, we’re short 100 bus operators. That’s why you may have seen those “Due to bus operator availability….” messages in the service alerts. We’re barely able to make service as it is.

How did they become that short on B/Os?

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Here are photos of WMATA 1990 Flxible Metro-B #9352 I took on Independence Day 2008.  This one still retained the original block taillights.  When I was growing up, most of these buses already had the newer LED circular taillights mainly with the newer 3rd generation scheme and some still in the older 2nd generation scheme because I was born in 1996.

 

Did the ones that had the circular LED taillights used to have older block taillights as well?

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52 minutes ago, John Sulu said:

Here are photos of WMATA 1990 Flxible Metro-B #9352 I took on Independence Day 2008.  This one still retained the original block taillights.  When I was growing up, most of these buses already had the newer LED circular taillights mainly with the newer 3rd generation scheme and some still in the older 2nd generation scheme because I was born in 1996.

 

Did the ones that had the circular LED taillights used to have block taillights as well?

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Yes, they all originally had the block taillights, but most were replaced in the early 2000s. I do remember seeing some #9300s and #9400s (and atleast one #9700) roaming around with the old style in the late 2000s right before they were replaced and retired by the New Flyer DE42LFA Hybrids (and their variants, DE37LFAs and DE62FLAs).

57 minutes ago, John Sulu said:

Here are photos of WMATA 1990 Flxible Metro-B #9352 I took on Independence Day 2008.  This one still retained the original block taillights.  When I was growing up, most of these buses already had the newer LED circular taillights mainly with the newer 3rd generation scheme and some still in the older 2nd generation scheme because I was born in 1996.

 

Did the ones that had the circular LED taillights used to have block taillights as well?

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Also keep in mind that the taillights were only replaced on the 1990s Metros (1990-1991 Metro Bs: #9301-9413 and #9481-9498 (most of #9424-9463 didn't get it however)), 1993-94 Metro Ds #9701-9785, #9801-9835, and 1995 Metro Es #4001-4104). The 1980s Metro Bs did not get them, so buses like #8840 or #8922 lacked them.

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9 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

Yes, they all originally had the block taillights, but most were replaced in the early 2000s. I do remember seeing some #9300s and #9400s (and atleast one #9700) roaming around with the old style in the late 2000s right before they were replaced and retired by the New Flyer DE42LFA Hybrids (and their variants, DE37LFAs and DE62FLAs).

Also keep in mind that the taillights were only replaced on the 1990s Metros (1990-1991 Metro Bs: #9301-9413 and #9481-9498 (most of #9424-9463 didn't get it however)), 1993-94 Metro Ds #9701-9785, #9801-9835, and 1995 Metro Es #4001-4104). The 1980s Metro Bs did not get them, so buses like #8840 or #8922 lacked them.

Why did the 1980s Flxible Metro-Bs keep the block taillights through their entire lives?

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MAJOR CRIME ALERT: Metrobus #4674 was involved in a road rage shooting yesterday afternoon. The bus was on route M6 in Southeast D.C. when a blue car came at 1PM and began firing multiple shots. No one was hurt during this incident, but both the front and back sides of the bus were struck with bullets; no arrests have been made so far.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/police-search-for-shooter-after-metrobus-struck-in-apparent-road-rage-incident/3218402/

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/metrobus-hit-by-gunfire-in-apparent-road-rage-incident-in-southeast-dc-police

https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-dc-shooting-metrobus-shot-southeast-road-rage-incident-police-mpd-metro-washington-district-gun-violence-wmata-bus-transit-dupont-randy-clarke-dmv-#

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10 hours ago, BusTraveler96 said:

MAJOR CRIME ALERT: Metrobus #4674 was involved in a road rage shooting yesterday afternoon. The bus was on route M6 in Southeast D.C. when a blue car came at 1PM and began firing multiple shots. No one was hurt during this incident, but both the front and back sides of the bus were struck with bullets; no arrests have been made so far.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/police-search-for-shooter-after-metrobus-struck-in-apparent-road-rage-incident/3218402/

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/metrobus-hit-by-gunfire-in-apparent-road-rage-incident-in-southeast-dc-police

https://wjla.com/news/local/crime-dc-shooting-metrobus-shot-southeast-road-rage-incident-police-mpd-metro-washington-district-gun-violence-wmata-bus-transit-dupont-randy-clarke-dmv-#

Always a new bus!

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14 hours ago, John Sulu said:

Why did the 1980s Flxible Metro-Bs keep the block taillights through their entire lives?

I'm not sure if this is right or not but Flxible did went out of business in the late 1990s, so replacing/finding new parts would be hard. Idk why exactly someone else can advocate this for me.

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34 minutes ago, Rob S said:

Always a new bus!

For real, it's fucking ridiculous. Just the other day, 2020-2021 New Flyer XD60 #5511 was taken out of service due to that wreck that started out as a police chase. These fucking morons need to be thrown UNDER the jail.  I don't think this was a road rage, but perhaps the guy recognized someone on the bus he had a beef and tried to take them out (i.e., a rival gang member or an ex-gf who did him dirty). In any case, he needs to be taken out.

14 hours ago, John Sulu said:

Why did the 1980s Flxible Metro-Bs keep the block taillights through their entire lives?

By the time WMATA was overhauling the newer Metros, the older ones were a few years away from retirement (remember, the 1990 and later Flexible Metros were rehabbed starting in 2001). By the time 2004-2005 rolled around, the #8700s, #8800s, #8900s, #9200s, and #5100s were all being phased out and replaced by new Environmentally Friendly buses (New Flyer DE40LF/DE40LFR Hybrids and D40LFR Clean Diesels on the MD side, Orion 7.501/503 CNGs on the VA and D.C. side).

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25 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

I'm not sure if this is right or not but Flxible did went out of business in the late 1990s, so replacing/finding new parts would be hard. Idk why exactly someone else can advocate this for me.

Flexible ceased new orders in 1995 but closed down altogether in 1996.

I do sometimes wonder however, had Flexible been around longer (not exactly to the present day, but atleast until say.. 2001) would WMATA have gotten more Metro E's or perhaps some latter Metro model? I think that 1997 Orion 5.501 order (#4200-4412) could have easily been more Metro E's (or Metro F's, perhaps even a low floor variant).

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1 hour ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

Flexible ceased new orders in 1995 but closed down altogether in 1996.

I do sometimes wonder however, had Flexible been around longer (not exactly to the present day, but atleast until say.. 2001) would WMATA have gotten more Metro E's or perhaps some latter Metro model? I think that 1997 Orion 5.501 order (#4200-4412) could have easily been more Metro E's (or Metro F's, perhaps even a low floor variant).

They would have probably gotten more.  I miss the 8800s, Royal had a lot of them.

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6 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

For real, it's fucking ridiculous. Just the other day, 2020-2021 New Flyer XD60 #5511 was taken out of service due to that wreck that started out as a police chase. These fucking morons need to be thrown UNDER the jail.  I don't think this was a road rage, but perhaps the guy recognized someone on the bus he had a beef and tried to take them out (i.e., a rival gang member or an ex-gf who did him dirty). In any case, he needs to be taken out.

By the time WMATA was overhauling the newer Metros, the older ones were a few years away from retirement (remember, the 1990 and later Flexible Metros were rehabbed starting in 2001). By the time 2004-2005 rolled around, the #8700s, #8800s, #8900s, #9200s, and #5100s were all being phased out and replaced by new Environmentally Friendly buses (New Flyer DE40LF/DE40LFR Hybrids and D40LFR Clean Diesels on the MD side, Orion 7.501/503 CNGs on the VA and D.C. side).

I saw a photo of 9343 in the silver 25th anniversary scheme already with the newer circular LED taillights and that photo was taken in March of 1998.  Were any 1990 Flxible Metro-Bs already rehabbed at that time and was this like a pilot bus for the newer taillights?

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Photos of WMATA 1997 Orion Vs (model 5.501) I took in downtown Silver Spring in the summer of 2014.  Did the 1992 Orion Vs #'s 9601-9660 originally come with a completely different taillight style and did their taillights get replaced by smaller LED lights BEFORE 2001?  I am asking this because I saw a photo of a WMATA 1992 Orion V on Flickr in the 3rd generation scheme with newer taillights that was taken in 1997.

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6 hours ago, John Sulu said:

Photos of WMATA 1997 Orion Vs (model 5.501) I took in downtown Silver Spring in the summer of 2014.  Did the 1992 Orion Vs #'s 9601-9660 originally come with a completely different taillight style and did their taillights get replaced by smaller LED lights BEFORE 2001?  I am asking this because I saw a photo of a WMATA 1992 Orion V on Flickr in the 3rd generation scheme with newer taillights that was taken in 1997.

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Yeah, at some point in the late 1990s (likely 1997-98) Metro had repainted the 1992 Orion 5.501s. IIRC however, their taillights were never changed up until they were retired in early 2008.

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On 11/27/2022 at 6:18 PM, John Sulu said:

I saw a photo of 9343 in the silver 25th anniversary scheme already with the newer circular LED taillights and that photo was taken in March of 1998.  Were any 1990 Flxible Metro-Bs already rehabbed at that time and was this like a pilot bus for the newer taillights?

Just go to TransiTalk Transportation Media Group and here's the link and you will see the majority of @'rion Oneaka

Trevor Logan Jr's photos on it. 

 

https://www.ttmg.org/wmata-flxibleh.html

and did you look at the old Flxibles on Wikipedia and yet? 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrobus_fleet_(Washington,_D.C.)

 

 

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