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Greyhound has sold the Portland, Maine station to Maine Health which is the parent company of Maine Medical Center. Greyhound will remain in the building for now. Purchase price was $1.4 Million.

This!! When I was ops manager at a charter bus company, I got so tired of the following vicious cycle: Maintenance would not make timely repairs to write ups. Drivers, knowing the

Most of the the added service is on London-Toronto (Table 740) and Kitchener Toronto (Table 743). Buffalo-Toronto has one trip to Pearson, on one of the local runs. It adds between 10-15 minutes of tr

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Spoke to a buddy of mine and it seems like Greyhound is here to stay. The union has pushed back and asked Greyhound for their financial statements, not sure if they were successful but after hiring lawyers and financial advisers, Greyhound quickly changed their tune. The vice president allegedly wants to return the Canadian arm to what it once was pre-covid, and they're still fighting to get subsidies from the federal government.

Also Badder bus and Great Canadian are closely watching Greyhounds next move. They're heavily interested in taking over Greyhounds licences in Ontario, since their charter business has halted.

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14 minutes ago, INowKnowwhY said:

Spoke to a buddy of mine and it seems like Greyhound is here to stay. The union has pushed back and asked Greyhound for their financial statements, not sure if they were successful but after hiring lawyers and financial advisers, Greyhound quickly changed their tune. The vice president allegedly wants to return the Canadian arm to what it once was pre-covid, and they're still fighting to get subsidies from the federal government.

Also Badder bus and Great Canadian are closely watching Greyhounds next move. They're heavily interested in taking over Greyhounds licences in Ontario, since their charter business has halted.

For the sake of the drivers for Greyhound Canada, that's nice of them to not go through with the ultimatum. I can say that the OMCA has created a Letter Writing Campaign for Ontario Bus Companies to write a letter to the Premier, the Minister of Heritage, Sport, Tourism and Culture Industries and the MPP for each operator to ask for a subsidy to help with the daily costs of operating Sightseeing Tours in Ontario to stimulate the Tourism Industry in Ontario. Hopefully it's expanded to private charters and line run operations. Greyhound Canada is self insured and buses that are 10 years or older of age are paid off. Their overhead shouldn't be that bad compared to Coach Canada who still has half of the fleet on credit.

That's interesting, there is more on that list but Great Canadian Coaches is a surprise. I am guessing the Casino market is not gonna be that strong and they were hoping to bail if Greyhound Canada was shutting down.

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24 minutes ago, ns8401 said:

Apparently the A/C system on 86348 stopped working and the driver was trying to open his window when the bus went off the road and into the ditch near Effingham, IL last night:

http://www.thexradio.com/news/78-local-news/45532-overnight-greyhound-bus-reported-crash-at-effingham

That's a new one on me...blaming a failed a/c and trying to open the window for veering off the road?   I would almost bet that the driver fell asleep (happened 1:30 AM), on a long straight interstate, about four hours out of Chicago...

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8 hours ago, traildriver said:

That's a new one on me...blaming a failed a/c and trying to open the window for veering off the road?   I would almost bet that the driver fell asleep (happened 1:30 AM), on a long straight interstate, about four hours out of Chicago...

 

8 hours ago, traildriver said:

That's a new one on me...blaming a failed a/c and trying to open the window for veering off the road?   I would almost bet that the driver fell asleep (happened 1:30 AM), on a long straight interstate, about four hours out of Chicago...

Why didn't he pull over and open the roof laches to allow air into the bus?

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On 7/16/2020 at 8:51 PM, INowKnowwhY said:

Spoke to a buddy of mine and it seems like Greyhound is here to stay. The union has pushed back and asked Greyhound for their financial statements, not sure if they were successful but after hiring lawyers and financial advisers, Greyhound quickly changed their tune. The vice president allegedly wants to return the Canadian arm to what it once was pre-covid, and they're still fighting to get subsidies from the federal government.

Also Badder bus and Great Canadian are closely watching Greyhounds next move. They're heavily interested in taking over Greyhounds licences in Ontario, since their charter business has halted.

Im doubting if the Sudbury to Toronto or Sudbury to Ottawa routes would be worth it for Greyhound to restart since Ontario Northland started service on that corridor,they interline freight with Greyhound(id think their probably carrying most of former hound freight on that corridor regardless) Id think it be better for Greyhound to just continue to feed into Ontario Northland. 

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11 hours ago, traildriver said:

That's a new one on me...blaming a failed a/c and trying to open the window for veering off the road?   I would almost bet that the driver fell asleep (happened 1:30 AM), on a long straight interstate, about four hours out of Chicago...

That was my thought too... somebody will pull the tape no doubt and catch what happened.

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2 hours ago, roeco said:

Im doubting if the Sudbury to Toronto or Sudbury to Ottawa routes would be worth it for Greyhound to restart since Ontario Northland started service on that corridor,they interline freight with Greyhound(id think their probably carrying most of former hound freight on that corridor regardless) Id think it be better for Greyhound to just continue to feed into Ontario Northland. 

If so, and Greyhound returns, I see with fewer routes. Ones remaining :

 

Ottawa-Montreal

Ottawa-Kingston/Peterborough/Toronto

I'm not sure of their routes in Southern Ontario are? So not sure which will return?

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6 hours ago, roeco said:

Im doubting if the Sudbury to Toronto or Sudbury to Ottawa routes would be worth it for Greyhound to restart since Ontario Northland started service on that corridor,they interline freight with Greyhound(id think their probably carrying most of former hound freight on that corridor regardless) Id think it be better for Greyhound to just continue to feed into Ontario Northland. 

That's very speculative at this point... Ontario Northland was operating along the Sudbury-Ottawa corridor for a while before even the Western Canada service was eliminated. Their trips were timed in order to not compete with Greyhound's existing service; instead, they provided a second daily schedule along the corridor. Greyhound and ONTC have been competing for even longer on the Toronto-Sudbury corridor.

If Greyhound wanted to, they could easily have abandoned service to Sudbury at the same time as the rest of Western Canada. The fact they kept their garage there and were still operating once-daily schedules along the Toronto-Sudbury and Sudbury-Ottawa corridors until the May 2020 system-wide shutdown must mean head office has some reason to expect those corridors are still profitable.

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3 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

If so, and Greyhound returns, I see with fewer routes. Ones remaining :

 

Ottawa-Montreal

Ottawa-Kingston/Peterborough/Toronto

I'm not sure of their routes in Southern Ontario are? So not sure which will return?

From what I understand, greyhound has no plans on renewing the Peterborough terminal lease and ended their parking and maintenance contract with Liftlock Fuels.I wonder how they would operate Peterborough to Pembroke, maybe depart the trip from Toronto? Maybe they'll treat Peterborough as an e-ticket stop and pick up on the street outside of the Peterborough terminal just like Go Transit?

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3 hours ago, Articulated said:

Greyhound and ONTC have been competing for even longer on the Toronto-Sudbury corridor.

That's interesting, because I can recall a time when Greyhound's predecessor on the Toronto-Sudbury and Toronto-North Bay routes, Gray Coach Lines (then subsidiary of the TTC), pooled with Ontario Northland on thru routes such as Toronto-Timmins.  I once rode the latter, on the "Slumber Lounge" overnite trip...

Going back into history, Gray Coach Lines provided the link between GLC, ECG, and EGL.   GLC did not reach Toronto until later, and later still to Buffalo. They were the only non-Greyhound company in North America to operate Greyhound's MC-6 Supercruiser's.  This was on the the thru New York City to Calgary trips.

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23 hours ago, Articulated said:

That's very speculative at this point... Ontario Northland was operating along the Sudbury-Ottawa corridor for a while before even the Western Canada service was eliminated. Their trips were timed in order to not compete with Greyhound's existing service; instead, they provided a second daily schedule along the corridor. Greyhound and ONTC have been competing for even longer on the Toronto-Sudbury corridor.

If Greyhound wanted to, they could easily have abandoned service to Sudbury at the same time as the rest of Western Canada. The fact they kept their garage there and were still operating once-daily schedules along the Toronto-Sudbury and Sudbury-Ottawa corridors until the May 2020 system-wide shutdown must mean head office has some reason to expect those corridors are still profitable.

Possibly but if you look in the past how Greyhound works they dont like competition and every time they ever had it they cut or reduced the service. But well have to c how it all plays out whenever Greyhound decides to restart

 

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On 7/20/2020 at 6:58 PM, roeco said:

Possibly but if you look in the past how Greyhound works they dont like competition and every time they ever had it they cut or reduced the service. But well have to c how it all plays out whenever Greyhound decides to restart

 

Tell the Transport Board you want to do a Scheduled Service between Toronto and Ottawa via Kingston, and they will tell you those runs are Greyhound Canada's and Trentway-Wagar's bread and butter. It's so stupid compared to other Provinces and States that are deregulated which makes riding the bus appealing to the general public in those jurisdictions. There are actual people who would ride on premium bus services like Vonlane, Best Bus and Hampton Jitney. As long Greyhound Canada and Trentway-Wagar can use the Public Vehicles Act to their advantage, enjoy the hand me downs with Greyhound and aging Megabus Van Hools.

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34 minutes ago, roeco said:

Im sure when and if they do it will be much different

We'll know in about two weeks. They'll now have to vote on a negotiated 10% cut in wages instead of 15% for the next 2 years. Sadly, their defined benefit pension plan will be frozen indefinitely. The fate of the company now lay in the hands of the union members. 

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On 9/10/2020 at 11:02 PM, INowKnowwhY said:

We'll know in about two weeks. They'll now have to vote on a negotiated 10% cut in wages instead of 15% for the next 2 years. Sadly, their defined benefit pension plan will be frozen indefinitely. The fate of the company now lay in the hands of the union members. 

oh wow..hopefully it goes good.

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3 hours ago, roeco said:

So speaking to a friend by text  who works for Greyhound out of Ottawa the majority voted for wage reduction and to freeze and combine all pensions.. Their expected to restart before thanksgiving on all routes possibly at reduced frequency.

wow, well with what's going on, the senior drivers made the right choice.

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