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2 hours ago, Rapidbus said:

Wonder where they are going to dump Greyhound at now... Theres not much suitable curbside or bus terminal nearby, maybe at Market + 6th like Flixbus and Megabus? 

Same goes with Chicago when the station is sold, Will they relocate to union Sta or 95th Street-Dan/Ryan

I would rule out 95th… it’s way too unsafe there… we used to have buses that had luggage stolen out from under them. A car would pull up on the left side and they would help themselves to bags while the driver was on the door side helping passengers. Terrible area.

My money is on Union Station. 

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The City of Chicago forced Megabus to move from Canal between Jackson and Van Buren over to Polk between Clinton and Jefferson. 

Flixbus is using Megabus' old Canal St stop, but it runs way fewer trips than Megabus did in their heyday.

The problem I see with Chicago is that Amtrak and the city aren't going to let Greyhound operate curbside at Union Station.

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It still seems incredible to me, that Greyhound has been reduced to “curb-bumping”  in the city that was its corporate HQ for about a half-century.

And both Chicago and Philly used to have state-of-the-art underground terminals in the 50’s to ‘80’s…

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This just an opion, but I feel that FLEX is going to run Greyhound into the ground. True there still owned by a European based company, but when First had at least they had terminals in large cities. Flex is tring to run Greyhound as though it was "twin" of it's base FLEX in the US? I can't coommentt on how FLEX runs its coach biz in Europe, but North America is not Europe. Heck you can drive a day or two and go thru maybe 3 countries in Europe, as here in North America(Canada & US) it takes you 3 to 4 days depending on your speed and how many hours you drive to get from the West Coast to the East Coast?

Also curb side Pick Up/Drop Off maybe feasible(dependingf on you view)in the Southern States where typicity it's warm in most cases year round but in the Northen States & most of Canada in the winter it's cold to very cold(depending on your location) it's pretty dam hard to be waitng for a bus? Yes some drop off/pick up may have a spot where it;s sheltered to some degree, but others maybe out on the sidewalk freezing your ass off.

 

I don't know what the future holds for Greyhound or even Flex for that matter, but something tells me it looks very grim for Greyhound especially if they go "curb side" for their entire network and actual service disruptions we being posted here from  postings in this forum or other sources, people can only take these to a certain point, just the hell with it I'll pay more and ride the train and not really have to put up with this B S?

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11 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

This just an opion, but I feel that FLEX is going to run Greyhound into the ground. True there still owned by a European based company, but when First had at least they had terminals in large cities. Flex is tring to run Greyhound as though it was "twin" of it's base FLEX in the US? I can't coommentt on how FLEX runs its coach biz in Europe, but North America is not Europe. Heck you can drive a day or two and go thru maybe 3 countries in Europe, as here in North America(Canada & US) it takes you 3 to 4 days depending on your speed and how many hours you drive to get from the West Coast to the East Coast?

Also curb side Pick Up/Drop Off maybe feasible(dependingf on you view)in the Southern States where typicity it's warm in most cases year round but in the Northen States & most of Canada in the winter it's cold to very cold(depending on your location) it's pretty dam hard to be waitng for a bus? Yes some drop off/pick up may have a spot where it;s sheltered to some degree, but others maybe out on the sidewalk freezing your ass off.

 

I don't know what the future holds for Greyhound or even Flex for that matter, but something tells me it looks very grim for Greyhound especially if they go "curb side" for their entire network and actual service disruptions we being posted here from  postings in this forum or other sources, people can only take these to a certain point, just the hell with it I'll pay more and ride the train and not really have to put up with this B S?

I would argue that Greyhound was on its way to going curbside starting from the late 90s. 
 

The only difference Flix seems to bring on the table is the increase in E-ticketing only locations

 

as for service disruptions, that’s standard Greyhound operations for you… been that way since Laidlaw. Back then they had operated more sections, but there is a very good risk that if a bus is sold out, even if you had a ticket, if they decided not to run another section… well too bad. Bad service has been prevalent in the company for a long time 

Hope the government wakes up and build some intermodal centers, because the there is no future for privately owned bus terminals 

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17 hours ago, Rapidbus said:

I would argue that Greyhound was on its way to going curbside starting from the late 90s. 
 

The only difference Flix seems to bring on the table is the increase in E-ticketing only locations

 

as for service disruptions, that’s standard Greyhound operations for you… been that way since Laidlaw. Back then they had operated more sections, but there is a very good risk that if a bus is sold out, even if you had a ticket, if they decided not to run another section… well too bad. Bad service has been prevalent in the company for a long time 

Hope the government wakes up and build some intermodal centers, because the there is no future for privately owned bus terminals 

Right now they seem to be suffering from putting more schedules on than they have drivers for… they’ve spread themselves too thin for no good reason. The new bid takes effect September 7 so the service increases will vanish and everything will magically work again. You’d think they would save themselves the trouble but I guess they do this every year. I started in 2017 and this year is probably the worst I’ve seen it.

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What trip around the country on Greyhound would be complete without a weekend stuck at that infamous gas station on Cherry Street in Knoxville? A group of passengers spent Friday and Saturday night outside before being put up in a hotel on Sunday. 

 

The news report is worth it. Knoxville is basically a symbol for everything going wrong now. 

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/greyhound-bus-never-shows-up-group-stranded/51-862b19f8-c294-4043-a85e-3e5140ad6b65

86982 Was involved in a crash in Midland, Texas when the driver failed to yield the right of way to an oncoming pickup truck. A few went to the hospital. The first article includes some comments about the driver at the stop they were leaving (pilot gas station). 
https://www.yourbasin.com/news/out-of-control-victim-in-greyhound-bus-crash-speaks/
 

https://www.newswest9.com/article/news/local/multiple-people-taken-to-midland-memorial-hospital-after-crash-on-wcr-127/513-8d67620f-3b5f-4685-9c9b-196e5de442fb

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10 hours ago, ns8401 said:

What trip around the country on Greyhound would be complete without a weekend stuck at that infamous gas station on Cherry Street in Knoxville? A group of passengers spent Friday and Saturday night outside before being put up in a hotel on Sunday. 

 

The news report is worth it. Knoxville is basically a symbol for everything going wrong now. 

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/greyhound-bus-never-shows-up-group-stranded/51-862b19f8-c294-4043-a85e-3e5140ad6b65

86982 Was involved in a crash in Midland, Texas when the driver failed to yield the right of way to an oncoming pickup truck. A few went to the hospital. The first article includes some comments about the driver at the stop they were leaving (pilot gas station). 
https://www.yourbasin.com/news/out-of-control-victim-in-greyhound-bus-crash-speaks/
 

https://www.newswest9.com/article/news/local/multiple-people-taken-to-midland-memorial-hospital-after-crash-on-wcr-127/513-8d67620f-3b5f-4685-9c9b-196e5de442fb

Sounds like whenever there’s a slow news day in Knoxville, they’ll dispatch a reporter over to the bus stop in hopes of creating a story…

 

As for the Texas accident, the “out of control “ comment by that passenger could indicate the driver was in an emotionally stressed mood…not what you would want from a professional driver…

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9 hours ago, traildriver said:

Sounds like whenever there’s a slow news day in Knoxville, they’ll dispatch a reporter over to the bus stop in hopes of creating a story…

 

As for the Texas accident, the “out of control “ comment by that passenger could indicate the driver was in an emotionally stressed mood…not what you would want from a professional driver…

I get that feeling too… though if there’s a reliable mine around town there Greyhound would be a good place to start looking if you need something.

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Back to Knoxville… the owner of the gas station on Cherry St. has terminated his agreement with Greyhound effective October 6th. He was only getting $500 a month for his trouble and has decided the situation isn’t worth it:

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/owner-of-gas-station-terminates-deal-with-greyhound/51-0c613e6a-3d34-4f20-87f8-2a7d775b0467

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Greyhound has abruptly pulled out of it’s location at the Amtrak Station in Jackson, Mississippi and moved outside Jackson proper to the Loves truck stop in Flowood, Mississippi. They did this without informing the city on the 22nd and now the folks at Loves were sent an immediate cease and desist letter because their facility is not zoned to be a bus stop and Greyhound and Loves didn’t notify anybody they were going to do this. It was unilateral on Greyhounds part according to the city. Jackson is a driver change point. 

https://www.wapt.com/article/greyhound-may-be-leaving-union-station-in-jackson/40966669#

We had a similar problem to this with Flix here in Michigan… they just started showing up one day out of the blue at the Amtrak/MDOT/Greyhound/city bus facility in Kalamazoo with their Flix Buses… no notice to the state, no authority, no permission. It has since stopped needless to say. But this hasty stop change without all their ducks in a row is becoming a habit. This actually came up in a conversation I had today before my run. They need to leave the hubs and driver change points alone so there’s at least somewhere for people to stay if there’s a problem like no driver or something and also to deal with tickets and such. 

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And apparently this move was known about by the local leaders in Jackson, Mississippi but was not expected this quickly. At issue were complaints about homeless people sleeping at the station and leaks in the roof and a demand for $1 Million in upgrades and improvements to the station. The city couldn’t secure the full funding needed for that between their money  and so Greyhound abruptly took off without notice it sounds like. 
 

https://www.supertalk.fm/greyhound-moves-operations-from-jackson-after-city-and-state-fail-to-fund-bus-station/

 

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On 9/2/2022 at 10:43 PM, ns8401 said:

We have an official shutdown date for Greyhound Package Express (GPX)... September 30 will be the last day.

Here’s the official announcement:

https://www.shipgreyhound.com/closure-information-2/closure-information/
 

And an FAQ:

https://www.shipgreyhound.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Package-Express-Closure-QA-3.pdf

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Greyhound now has a new location in Knoxville, it’s still just a curbside stop but it’s at a deli/market that at least has somewhere to sit and restrooms. But it’s only open till 8pm:

https://www.wvlt.tv/2022/10/04/greyhound-establishes-new-knoxville-bus-stop/
 

The city offered to work with them on using the transit center but they didn’t pursue it apparently. 

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Greyhound will begin stopping at a new public transit center in Springfield, Illinois in November. It’ll be another online only stop.

https://www.wcia.com/news/local-news/greyhound-to-join-sangamon-mass-transit-district-transfer-center/

 

Meanwhile a man was stabbed at the Greyhound station in Indianapolis:

https://cbs4indy.com/news/indycrime/impd-man-stabbed-at-greyhound-bus-station/

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