2044 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 6 hours ago, soo8513 said: QUESTION: I`m a senior. When I purchased ny PRESTO card four years ago I had it set to SENIOR by showing my driver`s licence to the GO ticket agent at GO Meadowvale. Since then Burlington, Oakville, MiWay, Durham, YRT, TTC, Brampton all recognize that I`m a SENIOR and I pay senior rates. The UP Express PRESTO website seems to indicate that I require to do a UP Express registration if I wish to receive SENIOR fare discounts. Is PRESTO and PRESTO-UP two different organizations You should get charged the senior rate. My father took UP in the summer and was deducted a senior fare without having to register again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Lansdowne Bridge Work Continues this WeekendUP Express service will be impactedTORONTO: April 12, 2016 – As part of our plan to expand regional GO Transit service, we will be doing further work on Lansdowne Bridge this coming weekend. As a result of the construction work, UP Express service will be impacted this weekend including periods of 30 minute service and intermittent periods of rail shutdown. Airport travellers and local commuters are encouraged to plan ahead and check the website for service impacts and alternatives.The work includes replacing two bridge spans on the north side of the Lansdowne Avenue Bridge as well as upgrading the bridge abutments. Bridge replacement construction will begin Friday April 15 until Sunday April 17 and can only be completed when there is minimal or no train activity.When tracks for UP are shut down, airport customers will be able to catch a replacement bus service between Union and Pearson stations. Bus service will not be provided at Bloor or Weston Stations during rail shutdown. Customers should check the website for further details before heading out. Keep informed by following @UPexpress on Twitter or Facebook or by calling customer service at 1-844-438-6687.We are making every effort to minimize the planned service disruption while we complete the necessary bridge work. Metrolinx appreciates customers’ patience and understanding.Details of Service Impacts:Fri. April 15Regular service until 8pm8pm to 1:00am – Train service suspendedSat. April 165:30 to 2 pm – 30 minute service2pm to 1:30 am – Train service suspendedSun. April 175:30 am to 11:00am – Train service suspended11:00 am to 1:30am – 30 minute serviceMon. April 18Regular 15 minute service resumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I was at Bloor station today and watched over 2 dozen Union riders get on the UPX, that was haft full and about 10 minutes before the GO train arrive. That 15 minute service with the same GO fare has done well for UPX, but drops the GO numbers down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 4 hours ago, drum118 said: I was at Bloor station today and watched over 2 dozen Union riders get on the UPX, that was haft full and about 10 minutes before the GO train arrive. That 15 minute service with the same GO fare has done well for UPX, but drops the GO numbers down. I think it's a good thing. It creates more capacity on the GO trains for the people who actually needs to go further than Weston. Although the trains at 4pm are never full. Probably good for the busy 5-6pm period. The 7am inbound trains aren't that full either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16 McCowan Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 NDP MPP wants TTC to run UP Express: http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/27/ndp-mpp-wants-ttc-to-run-up-express/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 21 hours ago, 21 Brimley said: NDP MPP wants TTC to run UP Express: http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/27/ndp-mpp-wants-ttc-to-run-up-express/ That would be awesome! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 On 6/27/2016 at 11:16 PM, 21 Brimley said: NDP MPP wants TTC to run UP Express: http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/27/ndp-mpp-wants-ttc-to-run-up-express/ TTC can barely afford what it has now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 On 6/27/2016 at 11:16 PM, 21 Brimley said: NDP MPP wants TTC to run UP Express: http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/27/ndp-mpp-wants-ttc-to-run-up-express/ and somebody wants TTC to take over the bike share program in Toronto as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I was on the GO train last night around 5:30 passing Bloor station and spotted a UP Express train pulling into the station signed BLOOR. I didn't even know that they could short-turn those trains! Is this a regular occurrence or did I catch something that doesn't normally happen (or did the operator punch in the wrong code?!). I guess they're signed when they leave Pearson, so if you were heading downtown you'd know not to board this particular train. In the event of a subway shutdown, and Metrolinx had the capacity to run extra trains, could they do short-turn runs between Union and Bloor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT_BMT_IND Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 The signalling is fully bidirectional so technically they can short turn a train anywhere. The bottleneck in your scenario would likely be the single platform at Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 The UPX is actually somewhat annoying of you wait at Weston. They have 3 platforms and trains can technically show up anywhere since they are bidirectional. One would have to check the screen before proceeding to the platform. If someone is coming from the north side of the street. The bridge leads to platform 3 (outer side). They'll have to cross through the tunnel afterwards. In rush hour, trains could be held up at Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoEngr1 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hey guys. Short turning or departing immediately is only done if the trains are late. Sometimes after signal, traffic or switch issues you will find trains all back to back. As for platforms. Yeah they switch all the time usually were on tracks 2 and 3 in the morning and around 1400 switch tracks or directions but use the same tracks. At night they usually start to use track one as well. Very important to look at the tracks on the monitors all the time. Even if there is a stuck train somewhere we will need to go around it somehow. On 04/01/2017 at 5:43 PM, Gil said: I was on the GO train last night around 5:30 passing Bloor station and spotted a UP Express train pulling into the station signed BLOOR. I didn't even know that they could short-turn those trains! Is this a regular occurrence or did I catch something that doesn't normally happen (or did the operator punch in the wrong code?!). I guess they're signed when they leave Pearson, so if you were heading downtown you'd know not to board this particular train. In the event of a subway shutdown, and Metrolinx had the capacity to run extra trains, could they do short-turn runs between Union and Bloor? As an operator we have no codes. The gsr in the middle just logs on a trip number and the rest is automatic. We never short turn at bloor. It would mean getting paper work from the rtc and operating at way slower speeds for a bit. Would just not be efficient but can yes still happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 Since this thread hasn't been updated in over a year, I've just wanted to follow up with some of the observations while at the UP Express platform at Union Station: The standard PRESTO readers (the green ones that are used elsewhere on the GO Transit network have been covered up, no word on when another silver reader will be coming back). This is to reflect GO 10km or less fare change (if I'm not mistaken). If a user who tapped on a standard PRESTO reader and then boards the UP Train off-peak, what is going to happen? How will the attendant knew if the rider is travelling on the UP but tapped on the green devices? Also, I believe that the TTC/UP (and TTC/GO) co-fare for PRESTO users will remain unchanged. I'm not sure if I had given accurate information, but please advise. posted from my Samsung Galaxy S9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 That pretty much sums it up. I think transfers to/from TTC are unchanged. I'd assume the attendant on UP would see from their device, if the rider had tapped on GO or TTC instead of UP, as it's set up as a different company. The real losers here are those that ride GO and transfer to UP to get to stations like Weston and Bloor. Not a big deal in rush hour, when there's GO service. But what about someone going to a game at Exhibition on a weekend when there are no GO trains on the KW line? There old GO fare from Exhibition to Weston was $5.02. Now you have to pay a $3.70 GO fare plus a $5.02 UP fare, totalling $8.72. That's a 74% fare hike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 I also don't like the isolation of the UPX platform from the rest of the Union station. It makes transfers to GO trains more complex and that something that has to be addressed to provide a smooth, efficient implementation of RER. Since the UPX platform track actually continues as the track on platform 3 in the main station, perhaps a corridor directly connecting the two could be a possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Transit geek said: Since the UPX platform track actually continues as the track on platform 3 in the main station, perhaps a corridor directly connecting the two could be a possibility? That corridor already exists. It's called "Platform 3". Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Transit geek said: I also don't like the isolation of the UPX platform from the rest of the Union station. It makes transfers to GO trains more complex and that something that has to be addressed to provide a smooth, efficient implementation of RER. Since the UPX platform track actually continues as the track on platform 3 in the main station, perhaps a corridor directly connecting the two could be a possibility? 6 hours ago, smallspy said: That corridor already exists. It's called "Platform 3". Dan Platform 3 is the emergency exit from the UPX platform. I've seen the odd person try to get from platform 3 to the UPX platform, completely ignoring the signs to go through the Skywalk. It's essentially set up as "exit through the gift shop" as they want people to use all of the extra amenities that were built into the station. I don't know how much passenger traffic is transferring between GO and UPX that they'd need a more streamlined transfer route. The only reasonable traffic that would be making the transfer would be Lakeshore East <> UPX. Aside from the Kitchener Line itself, if you needed to get anywhere else in the GTA the GO bus services would be easier (albeit not as frequent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 21 hours ago, Gil said: Platform 3 is the emergency exit from the UPX platform. I've seen the odd person try to get from platform 3 to the UPX platform, completely ignoring the signs to go through the Skywalk. It's essentially set up as "exit through the gift shop" as they want people to use all of the extra amenities that were built into the station. I don't know how much passenger traffic is transferring between GO and UPX that they'd need a more streamlined transfer route. The only reasonable traffic that would be making the transfer would be Lakeshore East <> UPX. Aside from the Kitchener Line itself, if you needed to get anywhere else in the GTA the GO bus services would be easier (albeit not as frequent). If you've walked along Platform 3 all the way to the emergency exit at the UPX platform, than you've missed the proper doorway. There is a set of doors over York St. that allow people go to from the Skywalk directly to Platform 3. Doing so allows you to minimize and double-backing along the route, and to bypass much of the crowds. These doors, while perhaps not as obvious on the Skywalk side, are very obvious on the platform. Dan 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 I think someone at Metrolinx is high on something.. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/09/24/up-express-to-undergo-major-overhaul-that-could-include-station-renovations-new-trains.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streety McCarface Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Shaun said: I think someone at Metrolinx is high on something.. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/09/24/up-express-to-undergo-major-overhaul-that-could-include-station-renovations-new-trains.html Most of these seem to be things that were either supposed to happen with the original RER proposal or the original UPX proposal. Electrification was always key for the line and I doubt they want to convert the Sharyo's. The platform thing is probably the big question mark, either they're going to convert everything to high floor (which I honestly hope they do), or they're going to reduce the UPX station platform heights (in my eyes, a stupid idea). The other option is 2-boarding level EMUs (ie KISS trains), but even those seem unlikely. The platform height increases at union seem to only be a few inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Shaun said: I think someone at Metrolinx is high on something.. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/09/24/up-express-to-undergo-major-overhaul-that-could-include-station-renovations-new-trains.html Seems more sensible than throwing good money after bad to electrify them, and buy more vehicles. Perhaps VIA Rail would like some newer RDCs cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 hours ago, nfitz said: Seems more sensible than throwing good money after bad to electrify them, and buy more vehicles. Perhaps VIA Rail would like some newer RDCs cheap. When buying the cars on the back of SMART order in 2013/14, it was going to cost $1 million per car to do the conversion back then and what will it be today?? These cars can go to SMART since they are going to need more cars and trains for expansion. VIA is going to a new fleet like Bright in Florida that is coming in various sizes and UPX trains are useless to them as well being too slow. Better off getting a new fleet that can go anywhere in GO System and interchangeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, drum118 said: These cars can go to SMART since they are going to need more cars and trains for expansion. All the better, if SMART wants more cars. 1 hour ago, drum118 said: VIA is going to a new fleet like Bright in Florida that is coming in various sizes and UPX trains are useless to them as well being too slow. I thought the new VIA trains were in fixed-length consists. RDCs could be useful for restoring service to some of the smaller routes - such as Sarnia to London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 They would need to convert platforms to support higher doors. But that's not hard. The question is can they be reliable enough to be used on services in the fringes. If one engine fails, is the other unit able to tow the train and meet the schedule like with the Budd cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 The UPX cars, I believe, lack traps for low platforms, so if they would be non-trivial to add, not much use for VIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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